ArmA II: Operation Arrowhead discussion thread

[Mafia101 0]

Is that new? http://petergames.de/ARMA-2-Operation-Arrowhead.91.0.html

There is gameplay video and new box art :P

[ryguy 10]

Haha... voice actor is the same as Cooper from Harvest Red :P And I love how the guy who talks at the very beginning sounds like a total dweeb... Who's in Delta Force

[nodunit 397]

I don't think that depend on the wíndows curve, I also see some color change in video and I don't know what is it. But if glass is cold, then it's black in flir. It doesn't matter what is behind, only if you stick your hot face on glass, maybe then glass take heat from you and will emit infrared light. Glass is barrier for infrared light same like brick wall is barrier for visible light. That's how I understand it.

You're right, there was an episode on mythbusters where they experimented getting around a thermal camera, it turned out the only truley effective way was to simply use a pane of glass.

Not bad new boxart..it's not nearly as shouty, speaking of which please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't box art under the jurisdiction of the publisher?

Edited May 21, 2010 by NodUnit

[EricM 0]

Yay ! new flashpoint box art ! I love it !

Very long video too... Most voices are nice and more fluid.

Edited May 21, 2010 by EricM

[bobocz 10]

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Very long video too... Most voices are nice and more fluid.

Yes very nice dialogs. And very attractive action scenes, ordinary soldiers work

take abandoned zu-23 and shoot down planes, I enjoy this scene .

[bravo 6 0]

hum..

I for one think the voice sounds still need to be improved.

The extensive "ogg" chats are nice but the normal, fast and common communications when detecting enemies or reporting units do not sound natural. As if they are throwing up words..without natural space between words and that is taking out a lot of immersion and realistic feeling.

Though I believe with time this will be the "ARMAII never dies".

Keep it up BI! :)

[Deadfast 43]

Is that new? http://petergames.de/ARMA-2-Operation-Arrowhead.91.0.html

There is gameplay video and new box art :P

Uploaded to YouTube:

[enad 11]

AWESOME video! Thanks Deadfast!!

[AnimalMother92 10]

Amazing! SO many nice little touches in OA

[Wolfstriked 11]

Yay binoculars that go straight to view when clicked.Who at BIS thought the click B and bino's come up to chin level first was a good thing?

[Smurf 12]

Yay binoculars that go straight to view when clicked.Who at BIS thought the click B and bino's come up to chin level first was a good thing?

Thats a ACE feature I think.......

____________

Just announced @ Steam Community:

ARMA 2 : Operation Arrowhead gameplay video #1

posted by Dwarden @ 08:43PM on May 21, 2010

Whole mission gameplay (preview build) was posted by german publisher : http://spedr.com/1qfb7

But I get this:

The URL you tried to load:

http://spedr.com/1qfb7

Phishing Site Blocked

Phishing is a fraudulent attempt to get you to provide

personal information under false pretenses.

[sparks50 0]

Indeed. Its meant to make it easier to check compass directions of targets.

[CarlGustaffa 4]

The extensive "ogg" chats are nice but the normal, fast and common communications when detecting enemies or reporting units do not sound natural. As if they are throwing up words..without natural space between words and that is taking out a lot of immersion and realistic feeling.

We have asked for fluidness in the speech, and this sounds pretty good to me. It's fast, but it isn't a broken up and artificial put together as before - something you can't completely get away when building sentences like that. And frankly, I'd rather they get done talking as fast as possible, rather than "never get done, followed by the next guy that have something to say". Sometimes they do tend to state the obvious, and I'd hate that to take too long time. Fast talkers also exist in real life :p

Now, lets only hope they respect when we are on comms in multiplayer (or better yet, while we're holding an assigned key for external voice comms), and doesn't start chatting. But I'm not holding my breath for it. Probably have to disable AI chat again.

I like the new sounds being put to use. Factory sounds are also in Arma2, but I have never seen anyone actually use them. And, about time that old OFP alarm got replaced :D

Nice ref to AAN :p

Yay binoculars that go straight to view when clicked.Who at BIS thought the click B and bino's come up to chin level first was a good thing?

It's an ACE thing, and its brilliant when you need to state compass bearings, since compass is not available in "optics" view.

Edited May 22, 2010 by CarlGustaffa

[Flash Thunder 10]

Coopers voice! :mad:

Well I have to say he sounds more appropriate in this game, but I still hear recycled ambient sounds and recycled wound sounds (12 year old kid screech and the ah fuck my leg!)

Were they playing the game on Max settings anybody know?

The game looks much more pleasing with the colors the way they're during the saving screen, when it first happened I was like DAYUUUUM! :)

[Dwarden 1125]

Thats a ACE feature I think.......

____________

Just announced @ Steam Community:

But I get this:

The URL you tried to load:

http://spedr.com/1qfb7

Phishing Site Blocked

Phishing is a fraudulent attempt to get you to provide

personal information under false pretenses.

most likely your browser or proxy is blocking spedr ...

the http://spedr.com/1qfb7 leads to http://petergames.de/ARMA-2-Operation-Arrowhead.91.0.html

[Smurf 12]

most likely your browser or proxy is blocking spedr ...

the http://spedr.com/1qfb7 leads to http://petergames.de/ARMA-2-Operation-Arrowhead.91.0.html

Seems like...

Now its working anyway.

Damm computers :confused:

[Wolfstriked 11]

ACE added that?Its annoying LOL.And what is up with the voices of the Pakistani?They sound like nerdy white dudes doing an Indian accent while the American sounds like a bad ass Rambo type.:rolleyes: ANd for the record I am not Pakistani but American.Just sounds cheesy.

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It's an ACE thing, and its brilliant when you need to state compass bearings, since compass is not available in "optics" view.

Ahh gotcha.Makes sense now.

[jakerod 254]

Helicopter pilot in that video seems to be a bit better than our good ole buddy StarForce. I hope that wasn't scripted and that the AI actually fly like that now.

[RogueBlade 0]

wow that vid made OA look boring

[Flash Thunder 10]

Anyway, at 4:50 and onward. Shoot the gunner using IR. Good. Now, shoot the driver, who is behind glass (and thus invisible). Good. Driver then falls to his side and becomes visible? Is this a bug that just happened to turn out looking good, or is heat transfer (to cold window) actually modeled?

I was wondering about this also, to me it seems like the window was opened on the driver side and his head fell to that side so you could see it.

AI was playing bumper cars with the Tank wreck.

Now its almost June wheres the Demo!??

---------- Post added at 05:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:40 PM ----------

Helicopter pilot in that video seems to be a bit better than our good ole buddy StarForce. I hope that wasn't scripted and that the AI actually fly like that now.

Its scripted. The player never issued orders.

[jakerod 254]

Its scripted. The player never issued orders.

I didn't mean in the sense that he was ordering them around. I suppose I should not have mentioned StarForce because I was trying to compare the AI pilot in OA to all the pilots in ArmA II not just StarForce. If the helicopter only has waypoints thats fine. I just hope that wasn't a bunch of code using setvelocity and stuff like that telling the pilot how to fly. If pilots fly like that with only waypoints, i'll be happy.

[nodunit 397]

wow that vid made OA look boring

Why? Because it was more like a conducted operation rather than a frag fest?

Voices are definately better..sure you have the stray more bot-like phrases but you can't get everything perfect no matter how hard you try, it's also nice that they aren't shouting in the radio now such as on "Scratch one!"

[wolf359 19]

http://www.gameprotv.com/arma-2-operation-arrowhead-preview-video-6697.html

Anyone interested, towards the later half of the video, there's a shot in the editor showing the user scrolling through all the blufor weapons. Get a look at some weapon variants such as the m14 with an aimpoint, and m110 with NV (assume night vision optics) and variants of other weapons. You'll have to go frame by frame to see them all.

here is the list of weapons, vehicles and characters visible in the video for those interested - please keep it secret for those who do not wish to know and remember that the preview version may only contain a part of what is offered to you June 29th:

I have added some comments in brackets for those who are new to the game - if you know all the weapon sights etc. just ignore it please.

There are two gaps where things may be missing.

Looks like night fighting will be very interesting and we get a lot of new toys in Arrowhead.

In red some items that may be new for you:

A10 US (jet aircraft)

AA Launcher US

AA Specialist US

AH64D US (helicopter)

AH6J US (helicopter)

AH6X US (ULB = unmanned littlebird)

AK74 (rifle)

AK74 GP25 (+grenadelauncher)

AK74 GK Kobra (red dot)

AKM

AKS (folding stock)

AKS74

AKS74 GOSHAWK (thermal Imaging Weapon Sight)

AKS74 Kobra (red dot)

AKS74 NSPU (image intensification night vision)

AKS74 PSO (telescopic sight)

AKS74U

Asst AT specialist Javelin

Asst AT Specialist US

Asst Auto Rifleman US

Asst MG CZ

Asst MG US

AT Specialist Javelin US

At Specialist US

ATV CZ (all terrain vehicle, Quad)

ATV US

Autom Rifleman US

Autom Rifleman US

C130 J US (transport aircraft)

CH47F US (helicopter)

Crewman US

Character Drake Light US

Character Drake US

Engineer US

Javelin (AT rocket)

Stinger (man portable air defence)

FN FAL (rifle)

FN FAL ANPVS 4 (image intensification night vision)

G36A camo (painted) (rifle)

G36 C camo

G36 C SD camo

G36 k camo

Glock 17 (pistol)

Character Graves light US

Character undercover Tak Militia

Character Graves US

Grenadier US

Character Herrera light US

Character Herrera US

HMMWV Ambulance CZ (armoured 4x4 car)

HMMWV Ambulance US

HMMWV Mk19 US

HMMWV TOW US

HMMWV US

HMMWV CROWS M2 US (CROWS = common remotely operated weapon station)

HMMWV CROWS Mk19 US (grenade launcher)

HMMWV GPK M2 CZ (GPK = gunner protection kit, heavy MG)

HMMWV GPK M2 US

HMMWV SOV US (SOV = special operations vehicle)

HMMWV Terminal US

HMMWV Utility US

Igla (man portable air defence)

IR Strobe

KSK MG German special forces

KSK Paramedic Ger

KSK Rifleman Ger

KSK Scout Ger

KSK Team Leader Ger

KSVK (heavy sniper rifle)

Lee Enfield (bolt action rifle without optics)

M107 (heavy sniper rifle)

M107 TWS (Thermal Weapon Sight)

M1097 Avenger US (HMMWV Air Defence)

M110 NV Scope (image intensification night vision - semi automatic sniper rifle)

M110 TI Scope (Thermal Imaging Weapon Sight)

M119 US (howitzer)

M136 launcher (single shot AT rocket)

M14 AIM (red dot brown colored)

M16A2 (rifle)

M16A2 M203 (+grenadelauncher)

M1911 (pistol)

M1A1 Desert US (tank)

M1A2 TUSK Desert US (TUSK = tank urban survival kit)

M2 Machinegun US

M2 Minitripod US

M24 desert (painted) (bolt action sniper rifle)

M240 scope (heavy MG)

M249 SAW (light MG)

M249 scope

M249 TWS (Thermal Weapon Sight)

M252 81 mm Mortar US

M2A2 Bradley IFV US (tracked infantry fighting vehicle)

M2A3 ERA Bradley IFV US (ERA = enhanced capability reactive armour)

M32 (Grenadelauncher)

M47 (Dragon Antitank rocket)

M4A1 (black) (rifle)

M4A3 ACOG GL (painted camo)

M4A3 CCO (painted camo)

M6 linebacker US (Bradley Air Defence version)

M60E4 (Machinegun)

M67 Frag Grenade

...

?

...

M9 (pistol)

M9 silenced

MAAWS (Medium Anti-Armor Weapon System = Carl Gustav variant)

Machinegunner CZ

Machinegunner US

Machinegunner US

Makarov PM (pistol)

Makarov silenced

Marksman US

Marksman US

Medic US

Medic US

METIS AT13 (antitank rocket)

MG Nest US

MG36 Camo (light MG)

MH6J US (helicopter)

MI171Sh rockets CZ (helicopter)

MI171Sh CZ

Military offroad CZ (4x4 car)

Mitlitary offroad special CZ

Mine (west)

Mine (east)

Mk13 (enhanced grenade Launcher module from SCAR rifle as a separate weapon)

Mk16 CCO SD (Mk16 = 5.56 mm SCAR)

Mk16 CQC

Mk16 C???

...

?

...

Mk17 EGLM RCO (Mk17 = 7.62 mm SCAR, EGLM = enhanced grenade launcher module, RCO = rifle combat optic)

Mk17 Sniper

Mk17 Sniper SD

Mk17 TWS SD (thermal weapon sight)

Mk19 Minitripod US (static grenade launcher)

Mk48 desert (machinegun)

MLRS desert US (MLRS = multiple launch rocket system, tracked artillery rocket system)

Motorcycle US

MQ9 US (unmanned aircraft armed with missiles)

MTVR Desert Ammo US (6x6 truck used by US Marine Corps up to now...)

MTVR Desert fuel US

MTVR Desert repair US

MTVR desert US

Officer CZ

Officer US

Operator Assault US

Operator M14 US

Operator Night Assault US

Operator Silenced US

Operator US

Character Pierce light US

Character Pierce US

Pilot light US

Pilot CZ

Pilot US

PKM

Revolver

Revolver Gold

RGO frag grenade

RGO frag grenade

Rifleman AT Cz

Rifleman AT US

Rifleman backpack Cz

Rifleman backpack US

Rifleman Cz

Rifleman US

RPG7 launcher (AT rocket)

RPG18 (AT rocket)

RPK (MG)

Sa vz 58P (czech rifle)

Savz58v

SAvz58V ACOG (advanced combat optical sight - red dot)

SA vz 61 (scorpion machinepistol)

salvage truck US

satchel charge

searchlight US

smoke grenade

smoke grenade blue

smoke grenade green

smoke grenade orange

smoke grenade purple

smoke grenade red

smoke grenade yellow

sniper m107 US

sniper TWS US (thermal weapon sight)

sniper CZ

sniper US

soldier light CZ

soldier light US

Special forces Grenadier CZ

Special Forces Machinegunner CZ

Special Forces Rifleman CZ

Special Forces Scout CZ

Special Forces Team Leader CZ

Spotter US

squad leader CZ

squad leader US

stone (the oldest general purpose weapon)

strela2 (man portable air defence)

Stryker ATGMV US (antitank guided missile vehicle) (8x8 wheeled armoured vehicle)

Stryker CV US (command vehicle)

Stryker ICV M2 US (heavy machinegun)

Stryker ICV Mk19 US (grenade launcher)

Stryker MC US (mortar carrier)

Stryker MEV US (medical evacuation)

Stryker MGS US (mobile gun system 105 mm)

Supply truck US

SVD desert (ghillie camo)

SVD Dragunov (sniper rifle)

SVD NSPU (image intensification night vision)

Team Leader US

Team Leader US

TOW Tripod US (TOW = tube launched optically tracked wire guided anti tank missile)

UH60m US (helicopter)

UH60m MEV US (MEV = medical evacuation vehicle)

UZI (machine pistol)

UZI SD

214 items listed - there will be more to find.

Some people say that the preview version only contains 60% of what we may expect. New photos show British units.

http://www.aan-online.com/en/europe/18-nato-training-exercises-in-2010.html

http://www.aan-online.com/en/europe/23-chernarus-firms-strike-uneasy-deal-in-takistan.html

http://www.armedassault.info/index.php?game=1&cat=articles&class=articles&id=43

The following items can be spotted in videos and photos:

Aircraft:

Mi24

UH1H Tak Army

UH1H Tak Militia

SU25 Tak

AN2

Mi17 UN

Amoured:

T34 Tak

T55 Tak

T72 Tak

BMP 2 UN

M113 UN

BTR 40 Tak (4x4)

BTR 60 Tak (8x8)

BRDM 2 AT

BRDM 2 HQ Tak Militia

BRDM 2 TAK Army

Cars:

suburban UN

Land rover red CIV

Land rover SPG9, M2, soft top

BM-21 GRAD, URAL ZU23 Tak Army

Praha V3S (transport and variants fuel, ammo and repair)

UAZ (DSHKM, AGS30, SPG9, soft top)

bike

civ motorcycle

car blue

car multicolored

SCUD 8x8 Rocket launcher

ZSU23-4

BRDM2, BRDM2 AT

technical (SUNDAT...)

static:

ZU 23-2

Opfor Tak Militia (AA specialist, Autom Rifleman, Bonesetter, MG, Militia AK74GL, AK74, FN FAL, Lee-Enfield, RPG Ammo, RPG7, sniper, Team leader, Warlord)

Opfor Tak Army with helmet and turban

UN characters (possibly CDF troops)

civilian charcaters

Looking forward to this impressive game...

the information is from open sources only. Please delete this post if it is unfavourable in any way.

Edited May 31, 2010 by wolf359

[RogueBlade 0]

Why? Because it was more like a conducted operation rather than a frag fest?

How was that conducted like an operation. He lone wolfed it into an enemy camp like Rambo. Killed them all without being shot at once. Except for when he died the first try, that was cool. He then proceeded to man some 1970's era anti air gun and took down THREE aircraft effortlessly. Nothing to do with a ArmaII vs COD style of gameplay.

[nodunit 397]

How was that conducted like an operation. He lone wolfed it into an enemy camp like Rambo. Killed them all without being shot at once. Except for when he died the first try, that was cool. He then proceeded to man some 1970's era anti air gun and took down THREE aircraft effortlessly. Nothing to do with a ArmaII vs COD style of gameplay.

Sorry I wasn't quite clear and you're right it was very lone wolf, when I say operation I mean long drawn and with a longer time in between battles compared to the standard fps, more walk time rather than immediately in the fray.