General Discussion (dev branch)

[CaptainObvious 95]

Can someone confirm ? Crashing UAV Darter NATO into ground when flying manually = Crash Game to desktop.

Anyone ?

Confirmed, crash with the "Arma 3 Stopped working" message.

[2nd ranger 282]

• Sound: Unit can no longer cough and talk simultaneously
  

Huh? Cough?

[HKFlash 9]

Huh? Cough?

Fatigue sound effects?

[pawelkpl 29]

Confirmed, crash with the "Arma 3 Stopped working" message.

Thx guys, I've found that bug playing domination, it crash all clients and dedicated server too. Checked in editor and confirmed, no mods.

[GShock 10]

Guys I posted twice on the rifle clipping issue and the mad AI skills (which become critical when clipping prevents player from shooting behind cover) but my thread was deleted twice.

At this point I would just like to know if the DEVs intend to do something about the issue which is well documented but seemingly excluded from discussions.

If this is not the right thread, please direct me to the correct one but I'd really love to hear the DEVs about this because it's a game breaker to me.

[fabrizio_t 58]

Guys I posted twice on the rifle clipping issue and the mad AI skills (which become critical when clipping prevents player from shooting behind cover) but my thread was deleted twice.

At this point I would just like to know if the DEVs intend to do something about the issue which is well documented but seemingly excluded from discussions.

If this is not the right thread, please direct me to the correct one but I'd really love to hear the DEVs about this because it's a game breaker to me.

If you think you've found an important issue, then the right place to report it is: http://feedback.arma3.com/

Open a ticket, write a description and add a proper repro.

EDIT: diligently check existing tickets before posting your own, your issue may has been already reported.

Edited October 22, 2013 by fabrizio_T

[GShock 10]

It's already been reported though I couldn't and still can't find it (MadDogX told me in PM but I accidentally deleted that, can't find anything about rifle clipping or just clipping) but I wanted to know what's being done about it.

[fabrizio_t 58]

It's already been reported though I couldn't and still can't find it (MadDogX told me in PM but I accidentally deleted that, can't find anything about rifle clipping or just clipping) but I wanted to know what's being done about it.

Maybe this: http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=9181 ?

You may search for the right issue and then vote up and / or post there your own note.

[maddogx 13]

It's already been reported though I couldn't and still can't find it (MadDogX told me in PM but I accidentally deleted that, can't find anything about rifle clipping or just clipping) but I wanted to know what's being done about it.

The ticket is here btw.

[CaptainObvious 95]

It's already been reported though I couldn't and still can't find it (MadDogX told me in PM but I accidentally deleted that, can't find anything about rifle clipping or just clipping) but I wanted to know what's being done about it.

One thing that catched my eye in your post was when you said something along these lines: "what the sight sees, is what the muzzle sees"

Now, when I'm behind cover shooting the enemies while revealing as little of myself as possible, the muzzle is often almost touching the obstacle I'm behind of, the sights are of course well clear of it because they sit couple of inches higher than the barrel, It's the operator's job to make sure the barrel also clears the obstacle.

The AI isn't able to shoot either if their barrel isn't clear btw, they won't and if they would they'd hit the rock too, no difference compared to player.

I took a couple of photos for ya :o

Should I take the shot, I clearly have the darknessmonster in sights

Wife probably wouldn't appreciate my efforts :(

[TSAndrey 1]

Can you fix controls activating while chat is active? Really really annoying...

[GShock 10]

Perfect pictures, Cap.

So, if you wanted to shoot outside the window, you'd rest the rifle onto it. As I said, these "adjustments" behind the cover should be taken care for because irl you would be in one posture when hiding and then in another posture (I call it "adjust") when shooting.

An adjustment in this example might be to crouch below and shoot blindly (rifle above you) or lean on the side of the window and stretch the arm on the side (the rifle would go outside the window and not through the wall like it does now).

The game doesn't take into account the fact that one thing is if you hide behind a window and another is if you want to shoot through it so these adjustments are not possible. You're good to go when you're behind the obstacle but you can't fire from behind it. If you want to shoot, you've got to get into the open. At Elite level it is sure death.

There's where the problem lies. We need a special shooting mode for these situations (anyone ever played Vietcong?) which may also prove useful in CQB.

My proposal is to have the rifle go down when in close proximity of an obstacle but then you're supposed to have an extra key to "adjust" over/around the obstacle and shoot over / lean beside it (we have the V key which partly does that). In order to do that, the rifle must be a physical entity in the engine and it mustn't be allowed to clip.

Rest assured, though, that if you look at the videos on that ticket, you'll see what I mean with this being a HUGE problem.

1 thing is if you are 1mm from the window as in these pictures and another is if you're lying prone on a ridge and trying to shoot a target 200/300m away and below you.

Your example is perfect at very close quarters, something which ArmA3 hasn't got (hopefully just not yet) but the problem still stands for anything past 3 meters ahead of the player and this is suitable topic for the AI logic behavior too.

The AI must be taught to take cover as top priority before anything else and at the cost of breaking formation and only then can it shoot from behind cover.

Lacking this function, both the player and the AI can never shoot from behind cover (90% of the times they'll hit the cover and not the target because the rifle is clipping but you can't see it on a screen as you would in a real 3d environment!) and this is very unrealistic for a game that wants to be a simulator.

This correct AI behavior can not be left to modding (WWAICOVER) but strictly needs this function which would also allow a more human-like behavior that doesn't need such powerful uber aimbotting (let's face it, without this uber aiming power, an ai forced to shoot outside cover would be easy prey).

Didn't mean to monopolize this thread, sorry for the long post too.

[EDcase 87]

Can you fix controls activating while chat is active? Really really annoying...

Yeah!

Found the ticket for it:

http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=1533

[markocro 66]

Can you fix controls activating while chat is active? Really really annoying...

yeah i was really wondering when this is going to be fixed, as andrey said its really annoying, and must be fixed.

its on FT, link EDcase provided, gonna vote up now...

[dezkit 28]

Am I the only person to notice that BI ruined the flight model for aircraft?

This will be like the only game in the world where when you roll in a plane you don't turn at all...

[progamer 14]

Am I the only person to notice that BI ruined the flight model for aircraft?

This will be like the only game in the world where when you roll in a plane you don't turn at all...

What do you mean? When I roll my rudder does not turn?

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Also, when can we expect to see the placeholder ammunition for the Zubr replaced with the correct ammunition type? http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=15462

[windies 11]

Can you fix controls activating while chat is active? Really really annoying...

Nothing better than chucking a grenade into your squad mates while trying to type something :). Haven't had that happen though since early alpha, but I stopped playing multiplayer due to the performance in early alpha so the bug might still have persisted.

[dezkit 28]

What do you mean? When I roll my rudder does not turn?

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Also, when can we expect to see the placeholder ammunition for the Zubr replaced with the correct ammunition type? http://feedback.arma3.com/view.php?id=15462

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHpIYgGKWoc&feature=youtu.be - Dev build

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oZPTGWu-8A&feature=youtu.be - Live Branch (Sorry about the ending.)

So do you see it now? This becomes a MAJOR problem especially when you are trying to line up with the runways.

[OMAC 254]

The ticket is here btw.

I added this video to the ticket:

A short-barreled combat shotgun would be good for this job, but the sniper rifle works fine thanks to the lack of clipping in doorways. :rolleyes:

[Greenfist 1863]

Auto-rudder was removed from airplanes. So now when you roll, you don't turn. Even if the rudder would kick in automatically in roll it wouldn't rotate plane just horizontally but also pitch downward in real life. So current state doesn't make sense, rolling should always turn plane, even more than in dezkit's stable branch example video.

Or is this something completely different than the lack of auto-rudder? Plane's missing some turn values or too much some stabilizers? Or the flight modelling just doesn't agree with laws of physics?

[GShock 10]

A short-barreled combat shotgun would be good for this job, but the sniper rifle works fine thanks to the lack of clipping in doorways. :rolleyes:

A good rework on the clipping so that player and AI may find a way to fight with cover which is everything in CQB.

Can't do CQB in this game without fixing the clipping issue. Great Vid.

Thx MaddogX for posting about the right ticket, instantly voted YES of course. :)

[twisted 128]

I added this video to the ticket:

A short-barreled combat shotgun would be good for this job, but the sniper rifle works fine thanks to the lack of clipping in doorways. :rolleyes:

Clippping, yes, and much GREATER dexterity values (weight and size) of weapons as well. then sniper rifles are cumbersome, but smg or a shot shotgun is much more faster to move and get caught on fewer surfaces in smaller spaces like indoors.

[pawelkpl 29]

•Fixed: Crash related to yesterday's changes to deleteVehicle when used on UAV

Thx BIS for quick Fix, Fix Confirmed !

[kremator 1065]

Can't wait for Survival as it means we get out of data lock and therefore we get back to a huge number of changes!

[gossamersolid 155]

Clippping, yes, and much GREATER dexterity values (weight and size) of weapons as well. then sniper rifles are cumbersome, but smg or a shot shotgun is much more faster to move and get caught on fewer surfaces in smaller spaces like indoors.

Yup a quick fix would be to change the dexterity values greatly so that big guns are more cumbersome.