General Discussion (dev branch)

[lex__1 422]

Several times I noticed the problem of HENT Amo cars and moving over bridges. I decided to check it in the editor.

Result.

This sometimes happens with other machines, but less often.

Can you check what's happening to them and fix it?

[BIS_Dantes 183]

11 hours ago, lex__1 said:

Several times I noticed the problem of HENT Amo cars and moving over bridges. I decided to check it in the editor.

Result.

This sometimes happens with other machines, but less often.

Can you check what's happening to them and fix it?

Nice catch!
We will look on that, thanks. :)

[EO 11275]

Added: A new "Edit Terrain Object" module which allows for direct object manipulation

Would it be possible to add "Size" and "Shape" to the Transformation section of this module, for instance, I want to destroy a specific village/town/forest.

Currently, having the option of editing one object at a time can feel a little laborious. 

 

Forgive me if this has been asked/answered before.

[Rich_R 1087]

If this is the same as the one being used in the main branch, you can adjust its size in a similar fashion to triggers and markers. It's under one of th modules attribute tabs, you pick square or round and adjust the size accordingly.

 

This module is a game-changer for mission makers.

[EO 11275]

7 minutes ago, Rich_R said:

If this is the same as the one being used in the main branch, you can adjust its size in a similar fashion to triggers and markers. It's under one of th modules attribute tabs, you pick square or round and adjust the size accordingly.

 

Yes, those options are available for the "Hide Terrain Objects" module, there is no size and shape option for the "Edit Terrain Object" module.  

[das attorney 858]

Can you guys look at fixing targetKnowledge please?  It doesn't update the positional error at all.  At the moment, I'm having to trawl through nearTargets to find the value.

 

Here is a test mission  (just follow the blue arrows, then the red ones and watch the hintbox):

 

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1kzYgzONxC0TkphNFByc0VDbzA

[pr9inichek 133]

On 13.09.2017 at 2:28 PM, Karloff said:

Nice catch!
We will look on that, thanks. :)

Same problem

 

U can't change texture NATO with "Edit Vehicle Appearance..." in Strider through 3den Editor

Spoiler

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T126711

 

U can't change new textures with "Edit Vehicle Appearance..." in A-143 Buzzard through 3den Editor

Spoiler

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T126712

Edited September 14, 2017 by pr9inichek
Add some bugs

[das attorney 858]

• Added: Glass destruction to WY-55 Hellcat, CH-49 Mohawk & PO-30 Orca

Hi,

 

Some config errors when loading the helis:

 

15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_light_03_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass1.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_light_03_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass2.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_light_03_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass3.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_light_03_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass4.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_light_03_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass5.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_light_03_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass6.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_light_03_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass7.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_light_03_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass8.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_light_03_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass9.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_light_03_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass10.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value

//

15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass1.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass2.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass3.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass4.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass5.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass6.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass7.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass8.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass9.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass10.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass11.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass12.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass13.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass14.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value

//

15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass1.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass1A.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass1B.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass2.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass3.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass4.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass5.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass6.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass7.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass8.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass9.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass10.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass11.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass12.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass13.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass14.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass15.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass16.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Transport_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass17.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value

//

15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass1.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass2.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass3.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass4.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass5.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass6.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass7.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass8.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass9.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass10.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass11.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass12.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass13.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value
15:16:06 Warning Message: No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/Heli_Light_02_base_F/HitPoints/HitGlass14.passThrough'.
15:16:06 Warning Message: '/' is not a value

 

[lex__1 422]

Quote

ENGINE

• Tweaked: Updated PhysX to version 3.4.0 (22121272)
• Fixed: Crash when releasing a physics constraint without any actor
• Added: New vehicle config parameters tankTurnForceAngSpd, accelAidForceCoef, and accelAidForceSpd
• Tweaked: Enabled PhysX wheel sweep collisions
• Added: PhysX-simulated and animated tank tracks according to PhysX wheels rotation

BIS, Many thanks for this update. This produces good changes for this problem https://feedback.bistudio.com/T117728

I could not reproduce this problem, it's a great change.

Thank you very much for this. Overcoming obstacles is excellent.

 

There was a nuance with bushes. Weight machines or bushes? In certain situations, bushes can work as a barrier, do not break badly, but break.
It's sometimes when you go ahead, and it's easy to play back when you go back to the bush.

 

[x3kj 1247]

progress on Tank physics, yay

although that propably means that i have to re-tune my vehicles again *sigh*

 

From 3.4 changelog

Quote

Unphysically large constraint forces were generated to resolve the suspension compression beyond its limit when the suspension direction and the hit normal under the wheel approach perpendicularity. This has been fixed so that the constraint force approaches zero as the angle between the hit normal and suspension direction approaches a right angle.

This sounds like this was the culprit of of Trucks flying in the air when driving over a tiny wall. If that is also the reason why tanks jump on flat goround, that seems strange to me - because that would mean the hit normal sometimes is in the plane of the ground, instead of beeing normal to it. Thats some serious deviation...

[lex__1 422]

35 minutes ago, x3kj said:

This sounds like it will solve the issue of Trucks flying in the air when driving over a tiny wall. If that is also the reason why tanks jump on flat goround, that seems strange to me - because that would mean the hit normal sometimes is in the plane of the ground, instead of beeing normal to it.

It was two different tickets.

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T117728

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T124274

 In both tickets, there is good progress after the Updated PhysX.

The machines are still jumping, but not as easily as they were before. A little is not enough weight of the car, or it is too big reverse work of suspension of the running machine.

[AveryTheKitty 2626]

Small issue I noticed with the new collimator GL sights...

 

 

Only tested with the MX but it shows up while switching from rifle to binoculars.

[h - 169]

Yup, that happens with all weapon using the GL.

Saw other weirdness as well; manifested itself with the nade loading anim playing when switching to a weapon with GL attached, although I haven't been able to repro the steps to do that, happened once when playing the Laws of War campaign in the scenario where the crates are airdropped when looking for the dropzone so I guess some sort of combo of mk20/pistol/binocs/moving/whatever.. :P

[Tankbuster 1746]

@edita tweeted this picture in the week.

 

 

I know it was one of a series of pictures of the team taking the tank out for a spin in celebration of the game's 4th armaversary, but I thought I'd use it to whip a load of pointless and unfounded speculation that BI tanks will be able to reverse soon.

 

It's my hope that within a  few weeks, this will have chinese whispered into a confirmed dev post.

[BIS_Dantes 183]

16 hours ago, das attorney said:

• Added: Glass destruction to WY-55 Hellcat, CH-49 Mohawk & PO-30 Orca

Hi,

 

Some config errors when loading the helis:

Hi, this is already known and fix should be published soon. :)

 

Edited September 15, 2017 by Karloff

[R3vo 2654]

Are the physics changes already noticeable on dev or do they need to be configured first for all tanks?

[xxgetbuck123 945]

6 minutes ago, R3vo said:

Are the physics changes already noticeable on dev or do they need to be configured first for all tanks?

 

The tank tracks one is noticeable. Other than that not sure on the rest. 

[lex__1 422]

18 minutes ago, R3vo said:

Are the physics changes already noticeable on dev or do they need to be configured first for all tanks?

Yes, these are already notable changes in DEV. My videos are recorded in DEV.

[kllrt 154]

8 hours ago, Night515 said:

Small issue I noticed with the new collimator GL sights...

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Only tested with the MX but it shows up while switching from rifle to binoculars.

 

Thanks, fixed :)

[das attorney 858]

Hi, I keep getting this pop-up error when opening a mission:

 

22:36:53 Warning Message: Cannot open object a3\weapons_f_exp\acc\acco_pgo7_blk_f.p3d

 

[AveryTheKitty 2626]

49 minutes ago, das attorney said:

Hi, I keep getting this pop-up error when opening a mission:

 

22:36:53 Warning Message: Cannot open object a3\weapons_f_exp\acc\acco_pgo7_blk_f.p3d

 

Cut optic?

[das attorney 858]

1 hour ago, Night515 said:

Cut optic?

 

 

Think so.  The path leads to this class but scope is 2 (so maybe it should be 1 if it's not supposed to be in the game).

 

class optic_PGO7_blk_F : ItemCore {
        displayName = "PGO-7";
        model = "\a3\Weapons_F_Exp\Acc\acco_pgo7_blk_F.p3d";
        picture = "\A3\Weapons_F_Exp\Acc\Data\UI\icon_optic_SOS_khk_F_ca.paa";
        scope = 2;
        class ItemInfo : InventoryOpticsItem_Base_F {
            mass = 14;
            opticType = 2;
            weaponInfoType = "RscWeaponEmpty";
            optics = 1;
            modelOptics = "\a3\Weapons_F_Exp\Acc\reticle_PGO7.p3d";
            class OpticsModes {
                class pso {
                    opticsID = 1;
                    useModelOptics = 1;
                    opticsPPEffects[] = {"OpticsCHAbera1", "OpticsBlur1"};
                    opticsZoomMin = 0.0623;
                    opticsZoomMax = 0.0623;
                    opticsZoomInit = 0.0623;
                    memoryPointCamera = "opticView";
                    visionMode[] = {"Normal"};
                    discreteDistance[] = {100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600};
                    discreteDistanceInitIndex = 2;
                    distanceZoomMin = 100;
                    distanceZoomMax = 1600;
                    discretefov[] = {0.0755, 0.0249};
                    opticsFlare = 1;
                    opticsDisablePeripherialVision = 1;
                    cameraDir = "";
                    discreteInitIndex = 0;
                };
            };
        };
        inertia = 0.2;
    };

 

[AveryTheKitty 2626]

55 minutes ago, das attorney said:

 

 

Think so.  The path leads to this class but scope is 2 (so maybe it should be 1 if it's not supposed to be in the game).

 

class optic_PGO7_blk_F : ItemCore {
        displayName = "PGO-7";
        model = "\a3\Weapons_F_Exp\Acc\acco_pgo7_blk_F.p3d";
        picture = "\A3\Weapons_F_Exp\Acc\Data\UI\icon_optic_SOS_khk_F_ca.paa";
        scope = 2;
        class ItemInfo : InventoryOpticsItem_Base_F {
            mass = 14;
            opticType = 2;
            weaponInfoType = "RscWeaponEmpty";
            optics = 1;
            modelOptics = "\a3\Weapons_F_Exp\Acc\reticle_PGO7.p3d";
            class OpticsModes {
                class pso {
                    opticsID = 1;
                    useModelOptics = 1;
                    opticsPPEffects[] = {"OpticsCHAbera1", "OpticsBlur1"};
                    opticsZoomMin = 0.0623;
                    opticsZoomMax = 0.0623;
                    opticsZoomInit = 0.0623;
                    memoryPointCamera = "opticView";
                    visionMode[] = {"Normal"};
                    discreteDistance[] = {100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 1000, 1200, 1400, 1600};
                    discreteDistanceInitIndex = 2;
                    distanceZoomMin = 100;
                    distanceZoomMax = 1600;
                    discretefov[] = {0.0755, 0.0249};
                    opticsFlare = 1;
                    opticsDisablePeripherialVision = 1;
                    cameraDir = "";
                    discreteInitIndex = 0;
                };
            };
        };
        inertia = 0.2;
    };

 

 

Interesting. Any textures that got in too, or any other scopes?

[das attorney 858]

I don't know to be honest.  I guess the only way to find out is to pop open the Weapons_F_Exp pbo and check.  I didn't see any other scopes but there might be some lurking in the configs somewhere.  I might have a look later on when I've got a bit more time

[roberthammer 582]

There been couple of things cut from the Apex - like the newest CG M4 launcher and M4A1 rifle

 

that PGO7 sight was supposed to be with the RPG7 so i don't why that was cut as well