General Discussion (dev branch)

[bravo 6 0]

I noticed some FPS drops with the latest patch update 1.12.115915. And I have not installed ZEUS thing from BIS, so its not the ZEUS thing from BIS.

Also noticed the textures got worse and more unatural while flying. I believe BIS is testing something on altis map and added more details to it but the result is not the best.

We should be getting better FPS instead getting worse FPS.

Hope BIS find a way to improve what we have on Built 1.12.115915.

[Furret 0]

Is the mission filling up the rpt file and causing I/O saturation? this cause cause FPS problems.

[Grumpy Old Man 3545]

Is there any chance to make all vehicles use the new loopable sound command for vehicle horns? So you can honk them as long as you want?

[[lb] boggler 10]

Unfortunately I can confirm that the last dev patch seems to be corrupt.

Using the zeus module causes a huge fps drop on the server side (#monitor shows about 5 fps on a empty map).

Using additional client sided mods causes also several CTDs since yesterday.

It doesn't matter if we start a ZGM BIS mission or a self made one.

Rpt file seems to be inconspicuous:

PhysX3 SDK Init started ...
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Unsupported language English in stringtable
File VAS\VASdialogs.hpp, line 52: '/VAS_Diag/controlsBackground/VAS_ContainerBG.x': Missing ';' at the end of line
Unsupported language English in stringtable
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File VAS\menu.hpp, line 53: '/VAS_Diag/controlsBackground/VAS_ContainerBG.x': Missing ';' at the end of line
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File VAS\menu.hpp, line 53: '/VAS_Diag/controlsBackground/VAS_ContainerBG.x': Missing ';' at the end of line
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File VAS\VASdialogs.hpp, line 52: '/VAS_Diag/controlsBackground/VAS_ContainerBG.x': Missing ';' at the end of line
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File VAS\menu.hpp, line 53: '/VAS_Diag/controlsBackground/VAS_ContainerBG.x': Missing ';' at the end of line
Unsupported language English in stringtable
File VAS\menu.hpp, line 53: '/VAS_Diag/controlsBackground/VAS_ContainerBG.x': Missing ';' at the end of line
Mission mp_zgm_m11_west.Altis: Number of roles (18) is different from 'description.ext::Header::maxPlayer' (17)
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No default vars in bin\config.bin/CfgMovesMaleSdr/States/Acts_UnconsciousStandUp_part1.variantsPlayer
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c:\w\c_branch\poseidon\futura\lib\network\networkserver.cpp NetworkServer::OnClientStateChanged:NOT IMPLEMENTED - briefing!
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Setting invalid pitch 0.0000 for L Zeus:12 REMOTE

Edited March 8, 2014 by [LB] boggler

[bigpickle 0]

It's pretty easy: sound[] = {path, vol, pitch, distance heard, {loopBegin, loopLength}} - first the loopBegin length of the sample is going to be played, then the next part is loopLength long and is played (repeatedly) as long as the weapon is fired, then the rest of the sample is played once :icon_twisted:

Thanks mate for the reply, so to clarify below:

class FullAuto : Mode_FullAuto {
begin1[] = {"mymod\shot1", 8, 1,500};
begin2[] = {"mymod\shot2", 8, 1,500};
begin3[] = {"mymod\shot3", 8, 1,500};
begin4[] = {"mymod\shot4", 8, 1,500};
begin5[] = {"mymod\shot5", 8, 1,500};
begin6[] = {"mymod\shot6", 8, 1,500};			
soundBegin[] = {"begin1", 0.16666, "begin2", 0.16666, "begin3", 0.16666, "begin4", 0.16666, "begin5", 0.16666, "begin6", 0.16667};
};

woulld become:

class FullAuto : Mode_FullAuto {
sound1[] = {"mymod\shot1", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
sound2[] = {"mymod\shot2", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
sound3[] = {"mymod\shot3", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
sound4[] = {"mymod\shot4", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
sound5[] = {"mymod\shot5", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
sound6[] = {"mymod\shot6", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
soundBegin[] = {"sound1", 0.16666, "sound2", 0.16666, "sound3", 0.16666, "sound4", 0.16666, "sound5", 0.16666, "sound6", 0.16667};
};

Edited March 8, 2014 by Bigpickle

[pettka 694]

Thanks mate for the reply, so to clarify below woulld become:

class FullAuto : Mode_FullAuto {
sound1[] = {"mymod\shot1", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
sound2[] = {"mymod\shot2", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
sound3[] = {"mymod\shot3", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
sound4[] = {"mymod\shot4", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
sound5[] = {"mymod\shot5", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
sound6[] = {"mymod\shot6", 8, 1,500, {0.05, 1.0}};
soundBegin[] = {"begin1", 0.16666, "begin2", 0.16666, "begin3", 0.16666, "begin4", 0.16666, "begin5", 0.16666, "begin6", 0.16667};
};

That's purrfectly right :icon_twisted:

[Kerc Kasha 102]

Is there any chance to make all vehicles use the new loopable sound command for vehicle horns? So you can honk them as long as you want?

damn that's a good idea.

[james2464 176]

damn that's a good idea.

Yes that would be great

[xendance 3]

That's purrfectly right :icon_twisted:

I suppose this sound engine addition will allow you guys to improve the firing sounds of rapid firing weapon platforms such as the AA vehicles and pawnee? >_>

[nimrod123 11]

... well, yeah, that's exactly what the IRL USAF has been trying to retire the A-10 fleet for. Heck, consider that right up to the Gulf War they were trying to phase out the A-10 in favor of... modified F-16s. Seriously.Considering what IstaGoat and I have said... yeah, that lack of "a dedicated CAS fixed wing aircraft" (with multirole aircraft filling the gap) is basically by design IRL, but it may be guessed that the Arma USAF was mandated to get a replacement -- after all, the A-10 survived all the way to 2030.

Interestingly enough, the A-164 design is stated by the To-199's description to actually be the more heavily armed; the Neophron "cannot carry as much payload as NATO's A-164 and has to rearm more often, but it can take-off even from the rough terrain, not being as dependent on air bases or aircraft carriers."

has the A10 just been cut in the latest budget entirely. its portion of the feed is going to try and finsh the F35

[qbt 10]

It's pretty easy: sound[] = {path, vol, pitch, distance heard, {loopBegin, loopLength}} - first the loopBegin length of the sample is going to be played, then the next part is loopLength long and is played (repeatedly) as long as the weapon is fired, then the rest of the sample is played once :icon_twisted:

This does not seem to work in CfgSounds with say / say3D / playSound, are these intentionally only for weapon sounds?

I think this should be expanded to work with these commands. Looping with scripts is inaccurate and not the best way of doing this if looping is supported by the engine.

[Tonci87 163]

Is there any chance to make all vehicles use the new loopable sound command for vehicle horns? So you can honk them as long as you want?

Oh yes please!

[bigpickle 0]

This does not seem to work in CfgSounds with say / say3D / playSound, are these intentionally only for weapon sounds?

I think this should be expanded to work with these commands. Looping with scripts is inaccurate and not the best way of doing this if looping is supported by the engine.

I suppose this sound engine addition will allow you guys to improve the firing sounds of rapid firing weapon platforms such as the AA vehicles and pawnee? >_>

Is there any chance to make all vehicles use the new loopable sound command for vehicle horns? So you can honk them as long as you want?

+1 plus 1 to all of these ideas, especially the edition to the scripting commands to such as say3d

---------- Post added at 12:57 ---------- Previous post was at 12:45 ----------

The new sound event is broken. It is still playing the full sample.

Below is an example of my code

		
class FullAuto : Mode_FullAuto
{
begin1[] = {"speedofsound_realsound_ebr\ebrfullauto1", 10, 1,500, {0.00, 0.130}};
begin2[] = {"speedofsound_realsound_ebr\ebrfullauto2", 10, 1,500, {0.00, 0.130}};
begin3[] = {"speedofsound_realsound_ebr\ebrfullauto3", 10, 1,500, {0.00, 0.130}};
begin4[] = {"speedofsound_realsound_ebr\ebrfullauto4", 10, 1,500, {0.00, 0.130}};
begin5[] = {"speedofsound_realsound_ebr\ebrfullauto5", 10, 1,500, {0.00, 0.130}};
begin6[] = {"speedofsound_realsound_ebr\ebrfullauto6", 10, 1,500, {0.00, 0.130}};		
soundBegin[] = {"begin1", 0.16666, "begin2", 0.16666, "begin3", 0.16666, "begin4", 0.16666, "begin5", 0.16666, "begin6", 0.16667};
};

How i tested:

• Made a shot sample
  
• Set the loop to only cover the shot and end at 0.130 seconds in the config as above leaving the echo to play after the loop
  
• Added my voice in place of echo, numbering each sound class ie test 1 would be used for sound class begin1 and so on
  

This was the result:

http://youtu.be/PYD2CZCJZHo

As you can see its still looping the whole sample.

Edited March 8, 2014 by Bigpickle

[DancZer 65]

Somebody can confirm this BTR-K Kamysh, AFV-4 Gorgon, ZSU-38 don!t launch smoke screen?

[Mr. Charles 22]

I can confirm that the Kamysh doesn't launch smoke, I've not tested the others yet.

[Tonci87 163]

I can confirm that the Kamysh doesn't launch smoke, I've not tested the others yet.

While we are at the smoke screen:

The AI likes to fire smoke when the vehicle is targeted by missiles, by an aircraft for example. The problem is that the missiles fired by the AI don´t break the lock when smoke is fired. the still hit the target with pinpoint precision.

That should be changed.

[artisanal 22]

While we are at the smoke screen:

The AI likes to fire smoke when the vehicle is targeted by missiles, by an aircraft for example. The problem is that the missiles fired by the AI don´t break the lock when smoke is fired. the still hit the target with pinpoint precision.

That should be changed.

This is like, absolutely not surprising. Also, is it possible to lock a vehicle which is hidden behind a smoke screen as a player ?

[Tonci87 163]

This is like, absolutely not surprising. Also, is it possible to lock a vehicle which is hidden behind a smoke screen as a player ?

I think it is.

[msy 22]

This is like, absolutely not surprising. Also, is it possible to lock a vehicle which is hidden behind a smoke screen as a player ?

if you are commander you can order your gunner "2-2-x" to engage the target.

[arjay 7]

Hello there, our custom modules built for ALiVE utilising the BIS module framework have been doing weird things on dedicated server only. Previous to the last patch they were happily initing before the briefing screen, and now they do not. I saw this in the last changelog:

Fixed: Module framework no longer waits for execution of modules outside of the framework

Fixed: Modules were not executed in the right order upon mission start

Can a developer possibly explain the expected results of those changes?

This is a serious issue for us as the modules are being pushed out when simulation has started making things tremendously slow. Have these changes been correctly implemented on dedicated binary, because when running local or in editor, the module start up functionPriority is working fine, but as soon as it's tried on a dedi it does not work.

EDIT: oops I should have posted this in the scritping thread, I will post there feel free to delete this one.

[[lb] boggler 10]

I'm a bit mad, no one else mentioned the broken zeus module yet. Are there really so few people which use this (in my eyes genius tool) gamemaster tool?

As far as I could observe, the issues affect mainly stock ZGM missions and custom missions with Zeus in god mode (which is indispensable to tell a story/create a mission).

[novemberist 2]

boggler;2640200']I'm a bit mad' date=' no one else mentioned the broken zeus module yet. Are there really so few people which use this (in my eyes genius tool) gamemaster tool?

As far as I could observe, the issues affect mainly stock ZGM missions and custom missions with Zeus in god mode (which is indispensable to tell a story/create a mission).[/quote']

I do use Zeus quite a lot, but didn't notice that anything is broken. What is it that doesn't work for you?

[blackpixxel 53]

To the DEV's:

The current models of the 3D-scopes don't look really look great, the circular form has too many edges and the textures aren't sharp enough if you look through the scope: http://puu.sh/3llao.png

Is there a chance that we will get maybe an other more detailed LOD when we are aiming?

[Variable 322]

To the DEV's:

The current models of the 3D-scopes don't look really look great, the circular form has too many edges and the textures aren't sharp enough if you look through the scope: http://puu.sh/3llao.png

Is there a chance that we will get maybe an other more detailed LOD when we are aiming?

I agree, the sights makes the view look more obscured and dirty instead of the real-life clear view when looking through a scope. Frankly, Arma 3's sights always made me feel as if I'm looking through a pirate's telescope.

[[lb] boggler 10]

I do use Zeus quite a lot, but didn't notice that anything is broken. What is it that doesn't work for you?

Using the last dev update from Friday causes a huge workload on dedicated servers if you choose Zeus as player. The fps drops to 2-3 client side and 5 fps server side (#monitor). Obviously are not all Zeus missions affected but for example the stock missions (ZGM Nato for example). To eliminate a user failure we created 2 complete new setups of the A3 dev, but on both dedicated servers were the same problems. Also different reddit users noticed this bug reddit1, reddit2 and there is a small post here BIF.