British Troops DLC released & Official 1.01 Update

[maddogx 13]

Stop raging at your computer screen it gives you increased blood pressure which is dangerous if it happens too often. Judging that you lept forth into using an insult in your first reply shows that you are quick to get angry over very small things, even somebody far away on the interwebs having a different opinion to you!

I mean I thought this was a public forum where differing views were accepted but evidently not!

Of course differing views are accepted. Your view is clear. His view is that your view is shit. Personally, I agree. That's my view for ya.

Anyway, what is it with people interpreting disagreement as "non-acceptance of differing views"? What a load of bollocks.

Edited August 16, 2010 by MadDogX

[STALKERGB 6]

Witney.... ah it's such a small, small world :)

They cost a bit more in the new M&S tho ;)

I only go in there for percy pig sweets to take into the cineworld :)

@Sulu, do you think the price is really that bad? Especially seeing as this has stemmed from the inclusion of an island (albeit a small one).

[craig.turner 10]

I see its not just my thread that gets it then ..... WOW - unbelievable, a BI content thread too ...you guys should really chill out and pay a little respect to the company that brought you all here in the first place :)

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[l mandrake 9]

UK_Force;1720670']...you guys should really chill out and pay a little respect to the company that brought you all here in the first place :)

Respect for BIS? The company that single-handedly re-invented the fps as a combined arms mil-sim and provided thousands of hours of pleasure through their commitment to open-world, dynamic gameplay, user-moddable architecture and continual product support?

You must be new here ;)

Edited August 16, 2010 by Mandrake5

[l mandrake 9]

Witney born and bred mate, went to Henry Box :)

(Hears Wolle's footsteps...)

Er back on topic, yeah the BAF DLC looks awesome :D

[Fox '09 14]

to those who say it's going to kill the community..

how is dlc any different than an addon? apart from having to pay for it, name one reason it is different.. if BAF DLC kills the community, why wouldn't any other addon..

addons: killing the community since 2001

[myshaak 0]

to those who say it's going to kill the community..

how is dlc any different than an addon? apart from having to pay for it' date=' name one reason it is different.. if BAF DLC kills the community, why wouldn't any other addon..

[b']addons: killing the community since 2001[/b]

That's probably the most hilarious thing I've heard in months! :D It should become ArmaHolic's motto or something...

[SASrecon 0]

addons: killing the community since 2001

Rofl use it as your sig before I pikey it!

[pauliesss 2]

to those who say it's going to kill the community..

how is dlc any different than an addon? apart from having to pay for it' date=' name one reason it is different.. if BAF DLC kills the community, why wouldn't any other addon..

addons: killing the community since 2001[/quote']Very true.

[Durka-Durka 10]

As has been mentioned countless times in this thread, DLC is a mod and if you don't have the mod you can't play missions that use the mod. Server's got nothing to do with it.

And, as has been mentioned at least a couple times when the question came up, BIS was working on a way for folks who have/have not to play at the same time. Of course, I could've misunderstood, but I'll have to go back through the posts to check.

EDIT: Ahh, here we go...

Originally Posted by rexehuk

How will NON-DLC users be handled? Would be a shame if servers became unusable by others due to them running this DLC. Then we will have more divisions between Vanilla / ACE / DLC.

We have a solid plan to address this problem.

Any updated info on what this solid plan is?

Edited August 16, 2010 by Durka-Durka

[galzohar 31]

to those who say it's going to kill the community..

how is dlc any different than an addon? apart from having to pay for it' date=' name one reason it is different.. if BAF DLC kills the community, why wouldn't any other addon..

addons: killing the community since 2001[/quote']

It's very different. If a server is running a free addon I don't have, I can just go download it (and even that is too much for most people). If it's DLC I will most likely not buy it just so that I can play on that server, and would only buy it if actually most/all servers were using it because then I'd have no choice. I don't even get to make the decision of liking the DLC or not, because no matter how much I like it, if servers don't use it, all I have bought as a bunch of SP missions (and I'm not a big fan of SP missions no matter who makes them). That's exactly the problem a lot of people are worried about when talking about DLC, and I'm still waiting to see BIS's "solid plans" for dealing with this, so who knows, maybe it'll all turn out for the best.

[jibemorel 10]

to those who say it's going to kill the community..

how is dlc any different than an addon? apart from having to pay for it' date=' name one reason it is different.. if BAF DLC kills the community, why wouldn't any other addon.. [/quote']

Because there are a bunch of greedy motherfu[autocensored]er in this world and when you watch carefully they have an I7 and a GTX480 bought by daddy of course.:rolleyes:

[Tankbuster 1746]

LOL at Myshaak's sig.

[l mandrake 9]

It's very different. If a server is running a free addon I don't have, I can just go download it (and even that is too much for most people). If it's DLC I will most likely not buy it just so that I can play on that server, and would only buy it if actually most/all servers were using it because then I'd have no choice. I don't even get to make the decision of liking the DLC or not, because no matter how much I like it, if servers don't use it, all I have bought as a bunch of SP missions (and I'm not a big fan of SP missions no matter who makes them). That's exactly the problem a lot of people are worried about when talking about DLC, and I'm still waiting to see BIS's "solid plans" for dealing with this, so who knows, maybe it'll all turn out for the best.

I still don't see the problem. If you don't like the DLC content, why would you care about playing a mission that depends on it? You're not going to be banned from any servers, you just wont be able to play the occasional mission...your decision. It seems some people are just sulking because they have no personal interest in British content.

Edited August 16, 2010 by Mandrake5

[Fox '09 14]

It's very different. If a server is running a free addon I don't have, I can just go download it (and even that is too much for most people). If it's DLC I will most likely not buy it just so that I can play on that server, and would only buy it if actually most/all servers were using it because then I'd have no choice. I don't even get to make the decision of liking the DLC or not, because no matter how much I like it, if servers don't use it, all I have bought as a bunch of SP missions (and I'm not a big fan of SP missions no matter who makes them). That's exactly the problem a lot of people are worried about when talking about DLC, and I'm still waiting to see BIS's "solid plans" for dealing with this, so who knows, maybe it'll all turn out for the best.

just like everyone else, if you don't want to play on a ACE server, you don't have to. Nobody is forcing you to play on that server, right?

i would just find another server that doesn't run DLC. If you can't afford 10 bucks or don't think you should be paying for it, or don't want brits, that's your choice, you chose not to buy it... so don't play on servers with DLC, and don't complain about that. The only person who decides to run the DLC on their server would be the server administrators themselves.. talk to them if you're still not happy.

at least, that's what I think if i understood your post correctly.

[galzohar 31]

I would've agreed with you if there was a very large variety of populated servers to choose from, in which case I would've definitely have a choice and no problems would arise. Unfortunately this is not the case, and the number of populated servers is very minimal, and thus if you want to play at all you have to adjust to what those servers require.

[Binkowski 26]

I'd buy it.

[Killerwatt 0]

You know, bitchin and whinin about having to buy the BAF DLC just to be able to play on certain servers is just as supid as bitchin and whinin about having to buy ArmA2 to play it at all.

[mrcash2009 0]

You know, bitchin and whinin about having to buy the BAF DLC just to be able to play on certain servers is just as supid as bitchin and whinin about having to buy ArmA2 to play it at all.

Amen to that.

Thing is its worthless to complain, its out soon, its never going to change the fact its out soon, and like its been said a thousand times on a loop, its down to the server admin and mission makers who will rely on the DLC for dependency, not the DLC itself.

The vote will come with who use it, who make missions with it (oddly enough brit content missions & themes so not every mission you can think of) and what servers feel they get the benefit from having it on as required (not every server and only those who enjoy brit themes, and maybe not some of those if it means less visitors on servers which they will choose once and test the water once its out), but again that would still come down to mission level of requirement still, other than that you filter them out and find the rest.

There seems to be this assumption that the DLC will suddenly be on every server in most missions and you cant avoid it, lets face it, its only really going to be on brit based scenarios, so you can work out roughly what and where servers and missions might show up, I will leave you to work out where. I could argue that I purchased it and then go on MP and find many admins wary of it and there aren't many using it or many missions (just as an example) ... should I then complain?

And yes if you find a place that do use it and you dont have it you wont play ... pretty normal addon situations in the life of arma, and yes to then have it to play it you would pay for it, no secrets, no hidden agenda, just pure and simple fact, such as life .. the amount of things you might pay for in 1 week in the real world for parking, eating, and the many tax ripoffs ... jesus even money to use an ATM machine, so many more things to piss and moan about to be honest.

Heres an example: I use UK server and its brit based, and uses the DLC, im happy and all is well. A (for example) Canadian pack came out, the server then introduces some mission using it, I either pay for it, or opt out. If I opt out that server lost one person, if many opt out the admin will notice and probably decide not to introduce it and everyone carries on, so to me its no so much about any servers, as far as I can see you pick and choose your servers wisely where content is more often than not going to be used and your ping is good, so I would think that DLC and server location might be the logical filter for avoiding any issue. If you simply randomly find any server to play then expect issues.

People need to consider the common sense of admins more and the servers location to be honest. If im a US based admin and I have a server and stick UK DLC dependent content on it for a few missions, would I make a "note to self" that it might turn people away, I think I might.

I wonder how much of an issue this suddenly doesn't become when it moves onto a new DLC with a different country's content, cant wait for the 29th onward, one, so I can use it, and two ... to see the MP DLC doom never arrive. Having said all of this "if" that solid plan rings true, then its all been complaints for nothing anyway.

Edited August 17, 2010 by mrcash2009

[galzohar 31]

Note I never said "doom". But as you already understand, if you want to use the DLC and your server doesn't, you are forced to not use it (or play offline), and vise-versa. If there were a lot of servers with a lot of players I agree you could just go find another server. But have you looked at the server list recently? In the end the choice whether to buy or not would be "will I need it to play with the guys I like to play with?" rather than "do I like it?" which again may not be the "doom of multiplayer" but it's definitely an issue.

To be honest, with OA the same arguments could be made, except OA is such a huge improvement over Arma 2 that most people want to buy it anyway so being required to buy it to play on most servers is not a problem. I highly doubt BAF DLC will be in a similar position.

Edited August 17, 2010 by galzohar

[royaltyinexile 175]

have you looked at the server list recently?

True.. sounds like some fresh content and new players are required to populate the servers.. hm, I know, perhaps a new add-on could be ma-...

;)

[Yapab 10]

Hey guys just saw this DLC on Steam and quickly came here to read about it.

Sounds good, however I have a dilemma:

I havent got ARMA2: OA yet as I've been on Holidays. I have the DVD version of ARMA2.

I was going to purchase the DVD version of ARMA2: OA, however this DLC is said to be only available for downloadable content (Steam, sprocket etc).

So will it work with the DVD versions?

Yapa

[ck-claw 1]

So will it work with the DVD versions?

Yapa

Short answer -yes!

Else we're gonna have big probs! :D

[Killerwatt 0]

Hey guys just saw this DLC on Steam and quickly came here to read about it.

Sounds good, however I have a dilemma:

I havent got ARMA2: OA yet as I've been on Holidays. I have the DVD version of ARMA2.

I was going to purchase the DVD version of ARMA2: OA, however this DLC is said to be only available for downloadable content (Steam, sprocket etc).

So will it work with the DVD versions?

Yapa

Yes it will be but since you have the non steam version it would make sense for you to purchase the sprocket version.

[mrcash2009 0]

Note I never said "doom".

I was talking in general I wasn't even directing at you :bounce3:

But have you looked at the server list recently? In the end the choice whether to buy or not would be "will I need it to play with the guys I like to play with?" rather than "do I like it?".

Well if in fact the people you play with like it so much to use it regular on a server you like, then I see no problem, that then becomes worthy of its use, based on the fact you like to play with those guys, they enjoy it and find it worth while and the server admin you use.

It could be in fact "is it worth it to me in the area that I play". Again, if your admin and people are playing 10 percent missions using it and 90 percent are all other missions without it, I think the players & admin might work out its not worth it, so that would filter it out anyway. Once its out and admins and players will work out whether or not to have it on the servers that will be the main realistic filter of this "issue". Other than that you pay for something you can use in SP anyway with a new map and models if you dont even use it in MP or its not used on your favorite places to play MP.

Edited August 17, 2010 by mrcash2009