schnapsdrosel 0 Posted November 8, 2008 minus the blackop screenshot by Lone.Wolf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
william1 0 Posted November 8, 2008 thanks sir, you're a gentleman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laborj456 0 Posted November 8, 2008 what abut if u remodel the backpacks and idratation packs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stavanger 0 Posted November 8, 2008 OK thank you, the Pics are old and we have already inserted, now, however, she has a new assigned. By the way, there is no Readme in the file. Thank you for your efforts, very good work. Civilians v0.1 BETA by Schnapsdrosel Sorry for my bad English... Regards, Stavanger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldbear 390 Posted November 8, 2008 New on front page at Armed Assault.info Link to mirror : Civilians Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
icebreakr 3159 Posted November 8, 2008 Schnap schnap schnappi... thanks a lot! Btw: where is the "mad scientist" dude, included? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
big 0 Posted November 8, 2008 Armaholic mirror and news: - Civilian pack beta 0.1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyboy 3797 Posted November 8, 2008 Quote[/b] ]I made the civilians available under the Independant and the Civilian side, just for you Just for me? Ah, heck, Schnappy, you're making me blush... Thanks a million for this beautiful and useful addon. Also, where do I find that pistol grip shotgun the blonde black dude is sporting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miller 49 Posted November 8, 2008 Great, thanks Schnapsdrosel  ArmABase.de Mirror and News : Mirror: Mercenaries Civilian by Schnapsdrosel Kind regards Miller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparks50 0 Posted November 8, 2008 Took some better quality pictures than the default ones. http://i532.photobucket.com/albums....-81.jpg http://i532.photobucket.com/albums....-94.jpg http://i532.photobucket.com/albums....-42.jpg http://i532.photobucket.com/albums....-61.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr.g-c 6 Posted November 10, 2008 Great work, but the performance-impact of those civillians is just horrible. Place 25 of em in Rahmadi, play and then place 25 BIS Civillians and you'll notice the huge difference. Is there any chance you could somehow improve the performance-loss with them? We would really like to use them in our Mission. Best Regards, Christian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted November 10, 2008 It's the section count that's killing you. For each civilian, you're aiming at a maximum of 3 sections, tops, for each LOD. Get that done and your blokes will run better than BIS' civvies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted November 10, 2008 It looks like you have too much cavity map on those vests. It makes them look a little dirty, but not in a natural way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schnapsdrosel 0 Posted November 17, 2008 Here's the improved version of the civilian pack: download civilians_0.9b Change log: v0.9 Beta - tried to improve performance of the models by lowering the section count - added "grandma" model - made the civilians available under all sides - some minor model changes Also, where do I find that pistol grip shotgun the blonde black dude is sporting? I think it's from 6th sense mod... Great work, but the performance-impact of those civillians is just horrible.Place 25 of em in Rahmadi, play and then place 25 BIS Civillians and you'll notice the huge difference. Is there any chance you could somehow improve the performance-loss with them? We would really like to use them in our Mission. Best Regards, Christian Please try out the new version and tell me if you experience any performance improvement. It's the section count that's killing you. For each civilian, you're aiming at a maximum of 3 sections, tops, for each LOD. Get that done and your blokes will run better than BIS' civvies. Well, the lowest section count the default BI models have is 4 This includes: 1.) the face, hands, legs and feet 2.) Body 3.) clan sign 4.) unmapped stuff (weapons, binocular, nvg, etc.) I managed to reduce some of the section counts of my models down to 3, which is the lowest possible count, if you want the model to have changing faces and be able to carry weapons. If a hat or something is added to the model, the section count raises of course ... The female models now have the highest section count, which is 7, but that's the same count the default BI soldier models have. I did some tests, but the performance of the default ARMA civilians is still better, despite a lower section count of my models. Are there any other improvements that can be done besides the section count, that could higher the performance of these models? It looks like you have too much cavity map on those vests.  It makes them look a little dirty, but not in a natural way. Well, I like the way it looks, but feel free to edit my textures, I won't hesitate to use them, if they improve the look of my models  Schnap,This is by far my favorite unit addon.  Great work. The facepack is great to have also.  The old russian face in the East mercs is my favorite. Is there any chance you could add that face to the face pack in the future? I added two new faces to the face pack: download it here: Mercenary Face Pack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m@ster 0 Posted November 17, 2008 Nice work Mirror: (Need Reg.) http://www.ofp2-arma2.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr.g-c 6 Posted November 17, 2008 Quote[/b] ]I did some tests, but the performance of the default ARMA civilians is still better, despite a lower section count of my models. Are there any other improvements that can be done besides the section count, that could higher the performance of these models? Maybe textures and shading? I noticed that the civillian pack alone is very large, maybe textures? Dunno but i bet cameronmcdonald or others will gladly help you (maybe send them some Mlods?). Regards, Christian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.kju 3245 Posted November 17, 2008 Thanks for the update Schnapsdrosel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-MCF- Frantz 0 Posted November 17, 2008 Armaholic news and mirror pages updated ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr.g-c 6 Posted November 17, 2008 Hi Schnapsdrossel (i love that name, you know the "Bierbaron"?), unfortunately i have to tell you that the Performance is still considerably worse than with BIS default Civillians. Actually they look very good, but you know when you have like 32 of em in MP game running, people will complain about performance. Maybe you should really try to contact CameronMcdonald if he might help you with this.... Would be a shame if no-one uses them as they are looking very good. Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldbear 390 Posted November 18, 2008 New on front page at Armed Assault.info Link to updated mirror : Civilians (v 0.9 beta) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sas troop 0 Posted November 18, 2008 I got problem: I am using East Mercs in my mission. But I got normally FPS about 30-35. WHen I putted in close range about 10 your mercs, FPS... went down to 12-20! Its totally unplayable! Someone got sollution for this? E6550 Core 2 2GB RAM Radeon X1950 Pro 256MB Last format - 1 year ago 20GB addons installed and running Original ArmA 1.14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stavanger 0 Posted November 19, 2008 Mirror updated by ePrison.de Civilians v0.9 BETA by Schnapsdrosel Regards, Stavanger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Namikaze 0 Posted November 20, 2008 I got problem: I am using East Mercs in my mission. But I got normally FPS about 30-35. WHen I putted in close range about 10 your mercs, FPS... went down to 12-20!Its totally unplayable! Someone got sollution for this? E6550 Core 2 2GB RAM Radeon X1950 Pro 256MB Last format - 1 year ago 20GB addons installed and running Original ArmA 1.14 I would hazard a guess that it's the section count issue that some people have been mentioning off and on in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miller 49 Posted November 21, 2008 Thanks Schnapsdrosel ArmABase.de Mirror and News : Mirror: Mercenaries Civilians v0.9 BETA by Schnapsdrosel Kind regards Miller Share this post Link to post Share on other sites