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[Stendac 0]

I rather see the design philosophy of VBS2 in arma than some easy transition for bf2 kiddies.

For instance, why is there a mountain in the middle of some cities in arma? I have NEVER seen something like that in my life, the answer, to have a vantage point for snipers...

My house is on a hill in the middle of the town.

And yes, it is there so that I have a vantage point for sniping people.

[sniper pilot 36]

I dont know... but i feel this feeling of disapointment (for the lack of a better word) when VBS2 is mentioned. But then i remember we dont need much of these features... sure it would be nice but heck i can wait till it goes public...

EDIT: the reason I feel disapointed is that it holds alot of features over ArmA but then like stated above I realize the features would somewhat be impractical(sp?).

[BUNNY 0]

I rather see the design philosophy of VBS2 in arma than some easy transition for bf2 kiddies.

For instance, why is there a mountain in the middle of some cities in arma? I have NEVER seen something like that in my life, the answer, to have a vantage point for snipers...

My house is on a hill in the middle of the town.

And yes, it is there so that I have a vantage point for sniping people.

LOL! Owned.

[Daddl 10]

Most villages and cities were historically founded on places of strategic value - be it for defense (hill tops), control (river crossings, important trade routes) or resources (natural harbors, fertile lands, water, mines). So it's quite common to find settlements in those places even now. Many have grown with time with the old parts (or what's left of them) surrounded by urban sprawl, stretching out into the plane/valleys around.

Good examples of places with a hill top in it's middle are Sterling and Edinburgh in Scotland, both with an old castle on top of the hill. In Spain you find the famous white villages of Andalucia - also build around a little castle on a hill top. Basically it's a very typical form of settlement dating back from less safer times - as do most settlements in Europe, the Middle East, Northern Africa and good parts of Asia.

I think the small villages of the original OFP islands were placed quite nicely and realistically, especially on Everon, Malden and Nogova. And I doubt they will do worse on Sahrani.

[Journeyman 0]

Towns are often found next to streams & rivers too as this would have been an historic water supply! Guess I'll have to wait 'till Game2 for that though!  

[simulacra 0]

of course there are cities with mountains in them, but have you ever seen a mountain like the one in arma IRL?

The castle mountain in edinburgh is also alot larger and is more of a cliff with a city below than a hump right smack in the city center.

It just looks fake...

[NeMeSiS 11]

of course there are cities with mountains in them, but have you ever seen a mountain like the one in arma IRL?

The castle mountain in edinburgh is also alot larger and is more of a cliff with a city below than a hump right smack in the city center.

It just looks fake...

Why dont you show us that particular screen first, everything i can remember looked like it was built ontop of a steep slope

[simulacra 0]

http://www.armedassault.org/images/zoom/armedassault/arma3.jpg

It looks ok from a distance, but in some of the vids when they're running around close to it it just looks wierd.

But my point is more that I'm sad to see that BIS rather make arma to be a game to steal battlefielders rather than deepening the sim for the oldtime crowd...

[max power 21]

You're sad? That's terrible! Heaven forefend that you get sad. Here, come get a hug.

This argument that ArmA is arcade BS because VBS2 has a real time edittor is hillarious. Who writes your material? Maybe we should reserve judgement on how realistically or well ArmA plays until someone has actually played it?

What's up with the moaning again? The forum was fine for a few days and then some videos are released from the military training aid camp, and some people turn into gigantic three year olds. Here's our next step in our logical degeneration. Let's call it 'The Irrational Sense of Entitlement Challenge'. Go out and find features in games that are completely unrelated to BIS, pick and choose the features you like best, and return here and moan about them! It will be a riot!

[simulacra 0]

Who says anything about the real time editor? I'm talking about the philsophy behind the products, most oldtime ofp:ers are looking for realism, arma has some of that, then vbs2 comes along and we really see that in comparison some arma features could be questioned, and I'm not the only one who feels this way...

Not that arma sucks or anything, I just think that thy game should in all aspacts shy away from anything remotely arcade, why? becuase of the 200^infinity arcade combat titles on the shelf today, be different, be better.

And not to mention that some of the best modders have gone over to commercial modding in VBS2, combat, CSLA, BAS, kegetys and some others will most likely not be doing any mods for arma, which in turn will make the community weaker...

[NeMeSiS 11]

http://www.armedassault.org/images/zoom/armedassault/arma3.jpg

It looks ok from a distance, but in some of the vids when they're running around close to it it just looks wierd.

But my point is more that I'm sad to see that BIS rather make arma to be a game to steal battlefielders rather than deepening the sim for the oldtime crowd...

Well apparently thats just a matter of taste, to me it looks quite ok. And after seeing all the pics i never really noticed a very unrealistic environment, BIS just keeps it interesting, like Everon

But ok, i would prefer a completely realistic environment over the BF maps any day, but there doesnt seem to be much wrong with how it is now.

[cobra@pulse 0]

And not to mention that some of the best modders have gone over to commercial modding in VBS2, combat, CSLA, BAS, kegetys and some others will most likely not be doing any mods for arma, which in turn will make the community weaker...

Incorrect, a number of these modders are coming together for the Germany 85 mod which has already been started. It could be likely that a lot of newer fresh blood might enter the modding world for armed assault aswell. Giving them the space to breath might lead to some really impressive stuff.

Tbh, there doesn't look that much wrong with that, because its not a "hill" in the middle of a town, if you look its the edge and it is more of a cliff face aswell.

You forget that VBS2 is for the military and was never meant for the public really. Game 2 will have what VBS2 has and better I expect, but, the stuff in VBS2 you would harld y use, and the stuff you did would probably take too long to code into ArmA.

Theres a reason why when VBS goes public it'll be so expensive you know. You want to put that all in arma and release it to make it the only realy realistic shooter. That would not only dent the sales of the game its self as not everyone is interested in that sort of gameplay, and trust me, theres alot more people who play things like BF2 and other arcade type games. Bis in the end want to make a profit, they have to survive somehow, and they wont do it my holding charity carwashes (however amusing that may be)

[4 IN 1 0]

http://www.armedassault.org/images/zoom/armedassault/arma3.jpg

It looks ok from a distance, but in some of the vids when they're running around close to it it just looks wierd.

But my point is more that I'm sad to see that BIS rather make arma to be a game to steal battlefielders rather than deepening the sim for the oldtime crowd...

Well apparently thats just a matter of taste, to me it looks quite ok. And after seeing all the pics i never really noticed a very unrealistic environment, BIS just keeps it interesting, like Everon

But ok, i would prefer a completely realistic environment over the BF maps any day, but there doesnt seem to be much wrong with how it is now.

well maybe we need to airleft him to hong kong, here we will show how we build a tower block at a hillside(or on top of every small mountains)

[benreeper 0]

VBS is not designed to work on someones's home computer. The machines that play that game will have a staff of techs to make sure it works. Having this, BIS can make the game much more demanding for the computer. It also costs ten times more than a pc game.

--Ben

[sniper pilot 36]

You're sad? That's terrible! Heaven forefend that you get sad. Here, come get a hug.

This argument that ArmA is arcade BS because VBS2 has a real time edittor is hillarious. Who writes your material? Maybe we should reserve judgement on how realistically or well ArmA plays until someone has actually played it?

What's up with the moaning again? The forum was fine for a few days and then some videos are released from the military training aid camp, and some people turn into gigantic three year olds. Here's our next step in our logical degeneration. Let's call it 'The Irrational Sense of Entitlement Challenge'. Go out and find features in games that are completely unrelated to BIS, pick and choose the features you like best, and return here and moan about them! It will be a riot!

Look whose complaining pal, look... I love... i mean absolutley LOVE ArmA!There is no doubt that I will purchase it! Thats already been stated so now in the time we have to wait for its release, I am just stating my opinion... yes it makes me "disapointed" that VBS2 has more features, but like I stated, I realize that most features in VBS2 are really not practical to us gamers... ArmA will be great.

Oh and the 3 year old thing? What I said was stated in a mature fasion, unlike you who just started going off... We are all on the same team, but we are all different; meaning we have different opinions.

I rest my case (I think )

[max power 21]

You're sad? That's terrible! Heaven forefend that you get sad. Here, come get a hug.

This argument that ArmA is arcade BS because VBS2 has a real time edittor is hillarious. Who writes your material? Maybe we should reserve judgement on how realistically or well ArmA plays until someone has actually played it?

What's up with the moaning again? The forum was fine for a few days and then some videos are released from the military training aid camp, and some people turn into gigantic three year olds. Here's our next step in our logical degeneration. Let's call it 'The Irrational Sense of Entitlement Challenge'. Go out and find features in games that are completely unrelated to BIS, pick and choose the features you like best, and return here and moan about them! It will be a riot!

Look whose complaining pal, look... I love... i mean absolutley LOVE ArmA!There is no doubt that I will purchase it! Thats already been stated so now in the time we have to wait for its release, I am just stating my opinion... yes it makes me "disapointed" that VBS2 has more features, but like I stated, I realize that most features in VBS2 are really not practical to us gamers... ArmA will be great.

Oh and the 3 year old thing? What I said was stated in a mature fasion, unlike you who just started going off... We are all on the same team, but we are all different; meaning we have different opinions.

I rest my case (I think )

I'm sorry, did you think I was talking to you? Heh.

[stegman 3]

Sorry guys, i must have missed it. Whats this 'real time editor' all about?

I remember reading about it in VBS1, where a CO could alter aspects of a current situation mid mission. Is that what you mean?

[sv5000 127]

everyone going on about VBS this and VBS that... iahve VBS1 and trust me. WIth the current quality of stuff floating around for ofp, you arnt missing anything. I suspect the same for ArmA.

[aus_twisted 0]

Sorry guys, i must have missed it.  Whats this 'real time editor' all about?

I remember reading about it in VBS1, where a CO could alter aspects of a current situation mid mission.  Is that what you mean?

No it's a real time mission editor in 3D so you can place units in 3D exactly where you want them to, you can also give the AI waypoints etc and see it all happen in the 3D editor instead of having to hit preview all the time.

Checkout the VBS2 Website under the media section, kinda getting off topic but the VBS2 website does show some things that will be in ArmA also.

[Placebo 31]

This thread is for discussing ArmA screenshots, VBS should not be discussed as it's not relevant, if there are no new screenshots to discuss then there's no need for further discussion until such time as there are new screenshots to discuss

[stegman 3]

Quite right.

So, lets look and talk about this picture.

I've never seen it before, but it look pretty new to me.  Look at the detail of the interior!  Wow.

Also what is Sanatery officer?  Does this training mission teach you how to clean the head?

[GBee 0]

Also what is Sanatery officer? Does this training mission teach you how to clean the head?

Err, read again that's Sanitary Operation not Officer. Although my guess is that it would have been better worded "Clean Up Operation"

[andersson 285]

I dont like it but it seems I have to start with a small edit when I get arma... All the info-text that are floating in the middle of the screen annoys me. I will move it to some corner where its not so disturbing.

[Scrub 0]

Also what is Sanatery officer?  Does this training mission teach you how to clean the head?

Err, read again that's Sanitary Operation not Officer. Although my guess is that it would have been better worded "Clean Up Operation"

Arma's "Clean Sweep" maybe?

That's always a fun quickie while waiting for others to show up.

[dzf 0]

Quite right.

So, lets look and talk about this picture.

I've never seen it before, but it look pretty new to me.  Look at the detail of the interior!  Wow.

Also what is Sanatery officer?  Does this training mission teach you how to clean the head?

how come some screenshots of this game look decent but pics like these look so outdated. am i missing something?