celery 8 Posted June 7, 2011 Well what the hell do you expect when people want to change the game to be more like those games? ArmA is a war sim, not an arcade FPS. How about countering those suggestions with sound arguments instead of coming off as a total autistic idiot whose tube-shaped mind simply cannot comprehend why others think differently and like different things? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LANCERZz 10 Posted June 7, 2011 So for you (Lancerzzz) the quality of a game is its developers fame and sales, if Hello Kitty FPS sold 10,000,000 copies and made by Microsoft then in your understandning it would be the game of the century.. Because famous developer and lots of sale...!Sales dont equal quality..! It aint how many copies the military buy but the investments in specific modules and content there is important.. That's not what I said at all. I said that there is nothing wrong with a game making a lot of money. At no point did I say games that make a lot of money are automatically better. But, naturally, if the game sold 10 million copies then obviously it did something right. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a bad thing, and that's something that you guys need to understand.Your opinion probably makes up about 10% of the ArmA population as a whole, which in turn makes up about 1% of the PC gaming community, which in turn makes up about %10 percent of the entire gaming community. Just because you think you have a bigger brain than everyone because you don't play popular games doesn't mean a damn thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
froggyluv 2136 Posted June 7, 2011 How about countering those suggestions with sound arguments instead of coming off as a total autistic idiot whose tube-shaped mind simply cannot comprehend why others think differently and like different things? Insults were unecessary. People are protective of Arma's Sim-like nature because they see how many other good brands ie.R6, Graw etc have gone more mainstream and are afraid that the same fate awaits Arma eventually. I don't believe that to be the case and highly doubt BI would ever take that route. They can still maintain their sim nature while continuing to streamline the engine which in itself will help to promote this awesome brand of gameplay. Personally I got a little worried when noticing that some missions in the official BI campaigns were promoting less sim-like, more arcade or "storylike" features such as making friendly AI invincible to keep the story going. Some argued with me that it made the game more "accessible" and "fun" while I staunchly disagreed. I also just reinstalled CounterStrike for the first time in a long time and am having a blast :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tacticalnuggets 24 Posted June 7, 2011 I think the point most people are ultimately making is that in this PC game market, robust multiplayer that involves all forms of play is a MUST if their game is ever to survive in the long term. People bashing other games do it because they are not able to articulate their primitive form of panic and fear for new players to the genre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cycho 10 Posted June 7, 2011 being unpopular is what makes the ArmAverse what it is. being unpopular is what prevents adequate funding for making a working program. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 7, 2011 How about countering those suggestions with sound arguments instead of coming off as a total autistic idiot whose tube-shaped mind simply cannot comprehend why others think differently and like different things? Do you really expect me to take the time to even bother replying with a serious answer to this thread? I mean FFS, read the damn title of this thread... "ArmA 3 like Battlefield play 4 free." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jblackrupert 14 Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) Not a very good analogy :rolleyes: Sure it is, The purpose is to kill the discussion and create a massive wall of noise to drown out the other guy when you have no defence or argument. Both are meant to put the target on the defensive. You spend so much time defending yourself that all the facts and good arguments you put foward are buried under the noise... When your on the ropes.... call someone a COD kiddy in this case. ---------- Post added at 09:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:29 PM ---------- How about countering those suggestions with sound arguments instead of coming off as a total autistic idiot whose tube-shaped mind simply cannot comprehend why others think differently and like different things? This. I've said it before. The Asperger/social-cripple crowd is one of the biggest turnoffs for people in many games, especially Simulators.. D&D, RTS.. Star trek games.... The William Shatner Saturday night live skit come to mind......... Edited June 7, 2011 by jblackrupert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SWAT_BigBear 0 Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) I hate to be on topic here, but can't this guy set up multi launch icons to his favorite servers? I did it it back in the OFP days. EDIT: For his "instant play" wants. Edited June 7, 2011 by SWAT_BigBear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPC.Spets 21 Posted June 7, 2011 Im going to create a trhead asking for PERKS and KILLSTREAK now, wait for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jblackrupert 14 Posted June 7, 2011 I hate to be on topic here, but can't this guy set up multi launch icons to his favorite servers?I did it it back in the OFP days. EDIT: For his "instant play" wants. A simple favorites tab to the browser would make more sense then multiple icons all over your desktop. Yes I know there are Arma launchers that have this...but too much dependence on third party applications and dicking around is one of the many reasons Arma frustrates people. But again.... certain people seem to have an attitude that installing and setting up Arma SHOULD be difficult to weed out the people "Too stupid" to handle it..... whatever that means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Avgeris 64 Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) Im going to create a trhead asking for PERKS and KILLSTREAK now, wait for it sarcasm is not needed in the community, just new facts Edited June 7, 2011 by Sfigokolarios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strykeeer 10 Posted June 7, 2011 OP are joking? p4f? Of course NO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJF 0 Posted June 8, 2011 Mature. The most overused word in these forums. And I think that this is the problem. The attitude of some members that they think they are superior only because they play ArmA a so-called war simulator. And the only right way to play it is via Coop with boring predictable bots. And everyone else that likes to play PvP is a CoD or BF fag kiddie. Can't help but agree with that but ... I don't see what's wrong with ArmA atm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pathetic_berserker 4 Posted June 8, 2011 (edited) Your opinion probably makes up about 10% of the ArmA population as a whole, which in turn makes up about 1% of the PC gaming community, which in turn makes up about %10 percent of the entire gaming community. Just because you think you have a bigger brain than everyone because you don't play popular games doesn't mean a damn thing. Not factual and irrelevant. As of the end of you reading this post BIS is the current leader in Mil Sim and has been for almost 10 years. No one has ever come come close to toppling them. Its what they do, amongst other things. And why they have lasted so long as a developer while many poular franchises have only been sucessful for the publishers, not the development studio, who is often pillaged and left with no IP rights. So any quatifiable achievement made by the 'mainstream' still has to be put into some sort of tangible context. As for the dedicated PvP stuff, well sure it would be nice if there was always atleast 1 server always to drop in on. But what you are failing to realise is that many ArmA players actually DO have this, because someone/group may have set up a dedicated PVP server that they can reach. Sadly this is not the case for all, but the point is, all it takes is someone to step up and set up, the PvP missions have already been created, as pointed out in previous postss. There is nothing that BIS can add to the code that will magically make PvP dedicated servers populate and appear in your list of available places to play Edited June 8, 2011 by Pathetic_Berserker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tacticalnuggets 24 Posted June 8, 2011 Not factual and irrelevant. As of the end of you reading this post BIS is the current leader in Mil Sim and has been for almost 10 years. No one has ever come come close to toppling them. Its what they do, amongst other things.And why they have lasted so long as a developer while many poular franchises have only been sucessful for the publishers, not the development studio, who is often pillaged and left with no IP rights. So any quatifiable achievement made by the 'mainstream' still has to be put into some sort of tangible context. As for the dedicated PvP stuff, well sure it would be nice if there was always atleast 1 server always to drop in on. But what you are failing to realise is that many ArmA players actually DO have this, because someone/group may have set up a dedicated PVP server that they can reach. Sadly this is not the case for all, but the point is, all it takes is someone to step up and set up, the PvP missions have already been created, as pointed out in previous postss. There is nothing that BIS can add to the code that will magically make PvP dedicated servers populate and appear in your list of available places to play Its not that PVP doesn't exist. Its the accessibility. Number one issue in arma2 is getting on the server, and then dealing with lag. The lag can be fixed, but again, it takes more brainpower to do. Then there is the issue with PVP mission making. PVP mission making is not easy to do. Many of the game modes out there did not just spawn into existance from a few days of work like a coop. The scripting engine is not friendly towards this sort of complexity, nor is it documented to its fullest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krazikilla 5 Posted June 9, 2011 They actually make an ArmA2 Version for free: http://www.arma2.com/latest-news/arma2-free-announced_en.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zooloo75 834 Posted June 9, 2011 This guy's wish actually came true! xD I'm just hoping that ArmA won't get flooded by alot of statpadders :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jblackrupert 14 Posted June 10, 2011 They can't play on servers using addons or anything from Arrowhead so servers are not exactly going to be flooded with free2play'ers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalcraze 290 Posted June 10, 2011 Yeah I'm afraid ArmA2Free doesn't support stats and level ups So unfortunately good players will be playing it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KorpeN 0 Posted June 10, 2011 Nice move from bis. The good thing is that there is no support for addons. But it's not exactly what I meant in the first post. It's not like I wanted BIS distirbute ArmA3 for free like some Einsteins say. Now if they make an auto updater so the multiplayer section of ArmA getting update with PvP missions it would be great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pathetic_berserker 4 Posted June 10, 2011 Now if they make an auto updater so the multiplayer section of ArmA getting update with PvP missions it would be great. But why? If you dont have it, it will down load automaticaly from the server your playing on. remember BIS don't actually make many of the missions played, the community does. Thats they way BIS, and we the community like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NuclearBanane 10 Posted June 12, 2011 Korpen... DO you not realize how bad Play 4 Free is? The menu system is terrible. You need to relogging to switch to another character. Also, if you want tournaments. Hosts em your self. There is no MLG for Arma because... well MLG is to busy playing something that is quick and fast paced. Also no server browser would mean arma3 = console game. you say there is no mod support but yet at E3 on the video showing points about Arma3 one said same modding as in arma 2 and arma 1. Your point is invalid. Also, what do you mean " please bis make Online missions ". They don't make the Coop ones. why make PvP ones? no one ever like the ones they make. Also, what soldier do you see buying a gun from his quarter master? seriously. let alone optics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noubernou 77 Posted June 13, 2011 It amazes me that there are posters on here with hundreds of posts and don't understand very basic mechanics of the game, like how missions are distributed in MP. :butbut: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steakslim 1 Posted June 13, 2011 It amazes me that there are posters on here with hundreds of posts and don't understand very basic mechanics of the game, like how missions are distributed in MP. :butbut: Offtopic, but I never realised till now that your avatar looks like a dude punching himself in the groin.....I can't help feel a little distressed now when I like at it lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonmeister 14 Posted June 13, 2011 Offtopic, but I never realised till now that your avatar looks like a dude punching himself in the groin.....I can't help feel a little distressed now when I like at it lol. i believe he's hiding his untanned private parts. Hence the brown = Tanned, white = untanned. but hey, if punching your willy wonker floats your boat... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites