Dragon Rising has been released

[jigawatt 10]

As quite alot of you are still having problems running arma 2 i heard OFPDR is quite a blast right out of the box so i might give that a go anyone play it?

Have at it, that is if you want a dumbed down console game on your PC. BAAA BAA sheep.

[Bulldogs 10]

I was going to use the example of George Lucas and Steven Spielberg splitting then one making the new Indiana movie, but they both worked on the new Indiana movie, and I actually liked that movie... ok, like is a strong word.. but I didn't hate it.

[-RIP- Luhgnut 10]

Man, the Dragon Rising Forums have like a full scale mutiny going on over there.

One guys post has all these "wish list" things, and 90% of the stuff he wants is in Arma2.

I tried to post, then forgot I was banned. Which made me feel better actually.

[mrcash2009 0]

One guys post has all these "wish list" things, and 90% of the stuff he wants is in Arma2.

LOL .. that's priceless. Probably hes the first to knock Arma2 as well .. how people get cloned so easily.

"I want it in THIS one, not THAT one .. I refuse to play THAT one .. because .... well, because I want it in THIS ONE!!!!"

- :lecture:

[vilas 477]

Wow. You know, I think that Polaris guy is insane. I would hedge my bets that the rest of that DR Heroes group are, as well. After all, he is the leader of it.

hehehehe, this Polaris is guy who is typical PR liar

look what he say ?

if someone is primal and emotional, than he is low IQ childish and not educated, even MSc or PhD can be "emotional"(using Polaris words) and STRAIGHT RIGOROUS when he was lied/stolen of something/cheated,

lack of emotions and lies and denying truth and turning upside down is typical for psychopathy if he (Polaris) wanna play "wise"

emotional people are some times very true

but away from his bullshit and self-proclaimed pseudo-diagnosis

if company says "sequel to OFP" "most military realism ever made" and... it is much worse than Arma1, than...

only liars turn upside down truth and toy in pseudo-psychiatric shit

me and more people were BANNED from CM forums for saying that:

- DR not meets OFP and Arma has no immortal trees and 64 AI max

and what ? our posts were deleted, we were banned

and what left ? shit and lies

when people were saying (including myself) "there is no military realism" i answered to them "Arma2 is better when it comes to such mil-sim gaming" and ... posts were deleted and me banned

if person on BIS will write "game X is better than Arma in this and that" is it ban ?

i was criticizing BIS many many times and still i am here

i told 2 times on CM forum that:

"immortal, indestructible trees are total nonsense, only 64 AI is not for big battles, Arma allows to have more units and large battles" "in Arma is better when it comes to mil-sim gaming" i was banned

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392991

if i were not banned and my posts were not deleted , i would wrote him few "nice words"

i bet he not finished such studies he wanna play

edit:

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=393452

hehehehe

user "game is different than advertised" moderator "thread closed"

hehe

i wonder - banned or not and post not deleted ? :D

or small percentage is left as "safety valve" ? :D

no matter , DR is biggest disappointment , even if you can live with 64 AI on map, you can't live with Abrams that cannot pass small park or smallest stone

i saw on youtube movies where guy makes mission and when he is away than game says "you left battle zone" and "mission failed"

guy wanted sightsee island and do simple SP mission with few enemies and he had "mission failed" when he moved 1-2 km from his start point

Edited October 29, 2009 by vilas

[MehMan 0]

Oh god, not only did Polaris dare to post that bunch of crap, he also has some supporters for it.

[TangoRomeo 10]

Can you blame him. Imagine you lived for Star Wars and pinned all your hopes on the Phantom Menace, waited patiently and once it finally came out it turned out to be... well... the Phantom Menace. That'd drive any nerd insane.

4FPGJrzzq_I

[-RIP- Luhgnut 10]

Oh god, not only did Polaris dare to post that bunch of crap, he also has some supporters for it.

He flow charts why people get pissed when a game comes out that isn't what was advertised. Dragon Rising must REALLY suck if someone takes that much time to flowchart FAIL.

[MehMan 0]

Ok, we best stop discussing the DR forum, it is forbidden. Like logic and common sense is on the DR forums.

[Bulldogs 10]

Yarr, I keep getting myself into enough trouble in forums. There was a thread on .. another forum, about how the graphics and gameplay of DR is better than Arma 2. The thread went for a little while then I put up a post linking a video of Arma 2 and noted the difference in details and that Arma 2 is a milsim so gameplay doesn't compare and.. well, my post was deleted and I was sent an infraction notice along the lines of "we won't ban you because you've helped many community members but do not brake the rules again"

[jigawatt 10]

I got banned from their forums on Monday... Oh well, good riddance to that game and site. Actually, good riddance to Codemasters, last product I will ever touch of theirs.

[[GLT] Legislator 66]

Incredible ... they ban their customers in huge scales. I really never heard of this ever before in any gaming community. That's really sad.

[vilas 477]

I got banned from their forums on Monday...

hehehehehe :D

me too, me too, me too

[bangtail 0]

Incredible ... they ban their customers in huge scales. I really never heard of this ever before in any gaming community. That's really sad.

All damage control to try and protect prospective DLC sales.

CM don't seem to understand that with the advent of the internet (and especially these days), you can't augment sales by banning everyone who isn't happy with your inferior and moreover, falsely advertised, product.

As I've said before, MW2 will be the final nail in that already tightly sealed coffin.

Eth

[Leopardi 0]

All damage control to try and protect prospective DLC sales.

CM don't seem to understand that with the advent of the internet (and especially these days), you can't augment sales by banning everyone who isn't happy with your inferior and moreover, falsely advertised, product.

As I've said before, MW2 will be the final nail in that already tightly sealed coffin.

Eth

And BF: BC2 will bury it for good.

[bangtail 0]

And BF: BC2 will bury it for good.

Yah, no doubt. It's still a few months off but if their (DICE) previous games are anything to go by, it will be good.

Personally, I don't think DR will be anything more than an afterthought come Feb 2010.

It lost steam the day it was released and it failed to please either camp. The crowd here didn't like it for the most part and the console/arcade types played it for the requisite 2 weeks and are now clamoring for the next "big thing".

Eth

[Daddl 10]

So instead of dicussing the game, all you guys do is talking about framerates (in general, not related to OFP-DR), other forums, and how big your **** are. Fine, let's see how long this thread will stay open...

In completely unrelated news: I've tried the first mission, so far not looking bad - nothing overly impressive, but something I will probably enjoy. Still have to finish Uncharted 2 (so I can actually dedicate more than a quick trial to OFP-DR) and then get actually used to the controls before I can make a more definitive statement, but it really doesn't look bad. And it has more of the 'original OFP feeling' than the first ArmA did.

I think it's a similar situation to when Ghost Recon fans and OFP fans clashed: similar setting, different games, both fun in their way - that always invites zealots to fight their silly little pseudo-religious wars. It was the same with C64 vs Atari XL vs Amstrad, Amiga vs Atari ST, PC vs Mac,... Jez, instead of enjoying the diversity and the healthy aspects of competition all you do is fight, fight, fight... :(

[Zipper5 74]

Lol, jesus dude, read the thread before you make such accusations. The only people comparing framerates are those who are saying that's what makes DR better than ArmA II, and then people reply stating that they get awesome framerates in Counter-Strike, but does that really make it the better game?

We're complaining about Codemasters releasing the game under false pretenses. They claimed that it would have so much, and has so little. Plus, it's an obvious console port in the PC version no matter what you say. You'd have to be blind not to notice that. The AI is stupid, the campaign is boring, the multiplayer is broken beyond repair, and CM encrypted the main files, so modding is already dead. It does not have any of the "original OFP feeling", and a part of me dies every time someone says that. It just gives CM more incentive to continue on such a bad path...

[vilas 477]

best FPS i have in AVP, so AVP is 10 times better than Arma2 ? :D

i have 200 FPS in Aliens vs. Predator (1999) :P :P :P

concerning massive bans

people, lets say about it everywhere we can

i told on few gaming forums that CM bans people so you cannot know about bugs in game cause your opinion is deleted

when customer will see "ooops, they ban for bugs show" , customer will see "oops, so it is just PR and game is worse than i reviews"

also in some forums i wrote that Arma2 is better :P

Edited October 30, 2009 by vilas

[eble 3]

OFP-DR is good as a Sp game, but MP is totally dead.

No way on earth this game wasn't just a 100% console port, games files are fully encrypted and no one has been able to crack them fully.

CM forums are awash with lies, but don't you dare try and put someone straight else you will get banned/infractions etc.

The Arma2 thread on the CM gets locked everytime someone mentions or shows a new arma2 mod.

The mod community is dead in the water, what few mods exists, are actually cheats you can use in MP, I downloaded a file had a loook at it and altered the run speed (as I thought the game was slow) it works in MP! no dedicated servers, no cheat protection.

won't be too long before someone figures out how to alters weapon damage and it's totally game over.

[bangtail 0]

Lol, jesus dude, read the thread before you make such accusations. The only people comparing framerates are those who are saying that's what makes DR better than ArmA II, and then people reply stating that they get awesome framerates in Counter-Strike, but does that really make it the better game?

We're complaining about Codemasters releasing the game under false pretenses. They claimed that it would have so much, and has so little. Plus, it's an obvious console port in the PC version no matter what you say. You'd have to be blind not to notice that. The AI is stupid, the campaign is boring, the multiplayer is broken beyond repair, and CM encrypted the main files, so modding is already dead. It does not have any of the "original OFP feeling", and a part of me dies every time someone says that. It just gives CM more incentive to continue on such a bad path...

I was actually going to post something similar to this and then I thought, why bother.

Why bother with a guy who has obviously skimmed the last 5 pages and made assumptions about the other 159.

Spot on post BTW.

Eth

[jw custom 56]

And BF: BC2 will bury it for good.

Yep

[Daddl 10]

Lol, jesus dude, read the thread before you make such accusations.

I did, all the pages since my last post a few days ago. Almost all posts were not about Dragon Rising but about offtopic stuff (their forums, frame rates, etc.). It annoyed me, and it really makes this thread a pain to read. Anyways, I'm not your dude, so watch your language! :mad:

We're complaining about Codemasters releasing the game under false pretenses. They claimed that it would have so much, and has so little. Plus, it's an obvious console port in the PC version no matter what you say.

Why would I say anything about that (I didn't), and just to clarify things: I play it on a PS3 (and if you had read my post, you'd have known that), so the control pad-friendly interface is perfectly fine by me. It definitely beats the old OFP menus. If you followed the game's development you knew what to expect.

Look, I don't even get a mission editor and just have to play what they deliver or offer as DLC, and multiplayer is also much more limited than it is for the PC. But then I knew all that beforehand and still bought it, so why should I complain? Everyone knew before the release it wasn't going to be an equivalent to ArmA - neither in modding possibilities nor gamewise, and everyone knew it was Codies first shot at such a game, too.

I can't say much about the AI yet, having just started playing, but the AI in the original OFP and ArmA wasn't really perfect either. Quite good for such an open environment, but there were more than enough glitches. I think most of the complaints here are emotional (because it's from those Codie bastards and not the BI Saints), even when masked as 'factual arguments'.

You'd have to be blind not to notice that. The AI is stupid, the campaign is boring, the multiplayer is broken beyond repair, and CM encrypted the main files, so modding is already dead. It does not have any of the "original OFP feeling", and a part of me dies every time someone says that. It just gives CM more incentive to continue on such a bad path...

My condolences. The first mission - and as I said that's all I played so far - had an atmosphere that very much reminded me of the old OFP:CWC demo mission (don't remember what the name was in the campaign), that's what I mean by 'original OFP feeling'. Note that this is not a technological statement, and that I realize (and wrote) that this are two very different games. That's why I brought up the CWC vs Ghost Recon comparison - the flames went very high in the old forums about that topic, too. Still both were enjoyable games with a similar setting. DR is less of a simulation than ArmA, but believe it or not, that's perfectly fine and doesn't make it a bad game in general. You might not like it, but don't expect others to hate it, either.

And, as I wrote before, if BIS were to release ArmA II for the PS3, I'd buy that game immediately, too. And if they had released it before DR, I might not have bought DR at all (or I might anyways, who knows). But they haven't, and they most likely won't (despite having said to release it for 'next gen consoles'[sic], too) - if at all, they may release it (like OFP:Elite) years later for the XBox 360. So I enjoy what's available, and so far I'm not disappointed.

Edited October 30, 2009 by Daddl

[bangtail 0]

If you followed the game's development you knew what to expect.

Classic quote from someone who quite clearly DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE.

Please do some research before making any more "informed" comments.

Thanks,

Eth

Edited October 30, 2009 by BangTail

[Zipper5 74]

But how can a game that doesn't even live up to the standards of OFP have the "OFP feeling"? It doesn't make sense. Also, I can't recall either of the OFP demo missions being similar to the first mission of the DR campaign.

I wouldn't care what so ever if Codemasters had taken the OFP part of the name out of it, but they didn't. And they produced something that in no way, shape, or form resembles it's predecessor. Yet they continue to market it like that, and even took customers away from the real people behind OFP, BIS, only to have them realize that it's a game, not a simulator, and a pretty badly made game at that.

I can understand you enjoying it since you're playing it on the PS3 and have nothing else offered to you in the genre. However, we're annoyed because the true OFP fanbase was completely neglected in order for CM to boost profit off of the console players, such as yourself. Heck, I might have even enjoyed the game more if I played it on a console, but no, I played it on the PC, how it should have been meant to play given it being advertised as a sequel to OFP.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if DR2 is a console only game. Their PC market currently hates their guts, and the console market is slightly less hateful. They made most of their sales off the console market too, since it's much harder to pirate games on current generation consoles. If that were to happen, then Codemasters would officially become my most hated developer of all time.