Info on upcoming 1.08 patch

[Mr_Tea 0]

All those Kids?

This is no game for Kids.

I got exactly what i expected, no more, no less.

[smellyjelly 0]

I don't know what everyone is complaining about. I'm loving all these patches, and as a bonus, most include a new vehicle, weapon, or small feature. In this case it's bullet holes on objects and vehicles. As long as they look ok, aren't laggy or flickering I'm very happy.

[robert(uk) 0]

Wow, BIS you really rock. Keep it up fellas...

[xnodunitx 0]

Clapping into the hands for fixing bugs they sold us on purpose to get simply cash.

You are not high value community members, you are just walking wallets.

If that was the case, surely they would be charging $$$ for each patch, no?

If you wanted extra content for something like BF2, you had to fork over the $$$ and then all you got was a bunch of reskins and maybe 1 or 2 new models.

At least these patches are free, and if OFP is anything to go by, any patch we do have to pay for is going to come with a decent amount of content AND some major upgrades...

But oh well, it seems you're still intent on trolling, so the only way to stop that is to wait for you to make a mistake, then the mods can do their jobs.

Indeed, it seemed that whenever a mod would come up, out of the blue EA would release a bf2 expansion hat strangely enough..included that unit...the only expansion that introduced new things was special forces, the rest introduced jack squat.

SF- night vision which either proved useless or blinded you, grappling hooks, ziplines, tear gas and gas masks..those are the only things the game delivered. The rest of it was just a map or two and new unit that once again, their modding community had displayed.

Armored Fury- A-10, AH-6, new map..basicly new maps and vehicles, nothing special, same with Euro force, new team, new awards..woopdy doo.

Their not doing this now though because they already went to 2142, released an expansion for it and are already jumping onto bf: bad company.

Not to mention you have to pay money to have a server running, averaging five to eight dollars a slot. Now this doesn't sound like much at first but when you total 64 slots..$512, even if its four dollars a slot, $256, it adds up, and you cannot host an online server without this.

Not to mention each patch, no matter what and virtually everyone said this..made the game run worse and worse, things they supposedly fixed were screwed up even more. Okay dolphin diving was taken away, but you can still go from stand to prone instantly, your character only stutters when you move back up into crouch or stand..lovely how they screwed that up.

So far the only expansions I'v seen BIS produce would be.....oh wait..there isn't one, they are sticking to this game and not deriving off community ideas to make expansions...hmm...and were not being charged anything to run a server...hmm...

Yes there are alot of bugs, yes alot of things have been fixed, yes alot of things still need fixing. But think about this for a moment people, your complaining about how many bugs Armed Assault has compared to say bf2, now stop and think for a moment..Arma is on a much high scale, much higher interactivity and many other things, its like comparing an apple to an orange, or if you prefer, an apple to a cherry sizewise.

Now I'm sure this sounds very fanboyish, but I'v come to learn to not care anymore really.

I enjoy the game, I find the engine to be exceedingly versatile, nearly anything can be done one way or another, the community has already displayed an astounding amount of what can be changed to make things easier or better, and still, always, will.

Anyway..great job on the various fixes so far BIS, wishin ya luck for the future.

[INNOCENT&CLUELESS 0]

Quote[/b] ]This is no game for Kids.

Seems you do not play MP. The servers are full with teen-noobs using ArmA like BF2. I mean most missions except ®Evolution and a few others are arcade style, BerZerk and some TDMs are those examples. They are full, (I must say I am among them). The 5-15 Evolution servers are usually empty except 1-2 with 5-10 players most of the time.

So guess where the majority of the cash is coming from.

I agree that BI does an impressive development speed with the limited resources they have available.

I stated few weeks ago that I consider 1.05+ somehow as playable - not like OFP - but playable.

Nevertheless, look into the BTS how far we are away from a decent game that a youngster can install and play a few days bug free SP missions and maybe MP.

Call it trolling, I do not care, better then fanboyism.

[DaRat 0]

It's enough to counter your argument by saying ArmA has 16+ on the box. BIS' ass is covered - not their fault if the kids are too young/ immature to discover the patches.

I'm not saying it's an excuse, but you need to consider the scale of ArmA [which I'm not going to explain now, it's been done to death]. If you had your way, the game would not even be released now - hell, not even in the near future. The game would be released when patch 1.99 comes out - a year? 2 years? Would that please you?

Sorry, with a game like this, it just doesn't work like that.

I, for one, am happy with the patch system - I'm sure I'm not the only one

[4 IN 1 0]

It's enough to counter your argument by saying ArmA has 16+ on the box. BIS' ass is covered - not their fault if the kids are too young/ immature to discover the patches.

I'm not saying it's an excuse, but you need to consider the scale of ArmA [which I'm not going to explain now, it's been done to death]. If you had your way, the game would not even be released now - hell, not even in the near future. The game would be released when patch 1.99 comes out - a year? 2 years? Would that please you?

Sorry, with a game like this, it just doesn't work like that.

I, for one, am happy with the patch system - I'm sure I'm not the only one  

no, the game would never be release as by that time they have already run out of $$$ and stop doing game once and for all, VBS all the way

someone would say they should cut down the scale, dumb it down so that it feed every wet dreams of blood suckin publisher but if that ever happen you wont see me on this forum "trolling" whiners nor do i will become one of the whiners as i fully understand the rules of "never complain a game that i have never played" so and so

[INNOCENT&CLUELESS 0]

Quote[/b] ]ArmA has 16+

Strange, usually I am accused that I do not face the reality.

It is like the cigarette industry would not consider youngsters same for alcohol producers.

I do not whine, we should just replace "bug fixing" with "still developing" and then we would use at least the right wording.

So I see, the majority is a strong supporter of cheating and lying in business and feels ok with that. Well, at least I know the common mind set of the usual "wait I found an excuse for BI" -boys now.

ANYWAY, 2166 TO BE FIXED OR NOT TO BE FIXED...THAT IS HERE THE QUESTION!

[karantan 0]

Hm, I'm looking a bit differently on those '500 fixes'; it means that the game was bugged to Pluto and back, and I don't see it like the others, like 'this is great', 'yes!', 'sweet' or       (well, on some (other) way I do), and I don't see it like they (BIS) are doing us a favor with it; they're just paying 'a dept' to us (customers) and I fully agree with INNOCENT&CLUELESS that if the others are doing shit is not an excuse that I can do shit (also). Of course I'm happy that the patches are comming up, but all the 'procedure' (publishing a cripled product and then (eventually) patching it) is just plain wrong and till this won't be sanctioned (by the custumers, by the communities) this practice will continue, and as I see it it'll be worse and worse. I'm just sorry for those dudes which are buying such products and don't have an internet connection for instance (yes, such people still exist), or don't know that they must later to go on the official site to DL all those mighty patches to get the game 'rolling' as it should 'roll' at the first place (when it was purchased). And to moan (like Balschoiw) about the others which moan about the cripled product is not really a serious and mature doing, and saying that the 'haters' are all newcommers (it's quite uncontrary! ), former BF2 players and similar rediculous statements is also not very bright, or; "Return you`re version of Arma, and stay out of this forum." ,,, this is not even worthed to comment. I just wish that some people would act more rationally and by a common logic, and not like some blindfolded -yes- fanboys.

I'm not saying it's an excuse, but you need to consider the scale of ArmA [which I'm not going to explain now, it's been done to death]. If you had your way, the game would not even be released now - hell, not even in the near future. The game would be released when patch 1.99 comes out - a year? 2 years? Would that please you?

Sorry, with a game like this, it just doesn't work like that.

Yes hell it would please me, I would had no problems to wait all that time, I'm not some impatient kiddo which wants his toy now, and that's how it's working you know; a product (a car for instance) can't be released till it's fully designed, without any flaws, and the developing process tooks years ,,, but in gaming industry this obviously is possible. Why? Yes, ask yourself ... And I know that some developing studios or groups are already paying the price for/to such a policy. But till BIS have such a (naive) community, there's no winter for them ...

[Scrub 0]

Quote[/b] ]This is no game for Kids.

Seems you do not play MP. The servers are full with teen-noobs using ArmA like BF2. I mean most missions except ®Evolution and a few others are arcade style, BerZerk and some TDMs are those examples. They are full, (I must say I am among them). The 5-15 Evolution servers are usually empty except 1-2 with 5-10 players most of the time.

So guess where the majority of the cash is coming from.

I agree that BI does an impressive development speed with the limited resources they have available.

I stated few weeks ago that I consider 1.05+ somehow as playable - not like OFP - but playable.

Nevertheless, look into the BTS how far we are away from a decent game that a youngster can install and play a few days bug free SP missions and maybe MP.

Call it trolling, I do not care, better then fanboyism.

Are you really saying "Oh, poor little me, won't SOMEONE look out for us against the big bad businesses"? (you must come from a socialist society)

Be responsible for yourself for heavens' sake! People are responsible for their kids!! It's THEIR money, it's THEIR kids, it's THEIR decision!

There were at least 5 cautionary reviews out before anyone could buy this game, and BIS is moving steadily toward keeping their word. Patience is a virtue, and there are many unvirtuous people on these forums anymore.

[4 IN 1 0]

can anyone give me an idea of how to keep BI in business without needs of rush, dumping down, patching nightmare, contract violation ballocks while still give us a "clean" product which have everything and every improvements the comunity demanded for and that BI could still make a huge sum of money, remain designing freedom and get the respect they should have?

i really want to know the answer.....if there is any

[BroK3n 0]

Yawnz.

Talk about the patch itself already!

[froggyluv 2136]

The good thing about Crybois in other gaming forums is they tend to bitch, call the game garbage then leave. I've done it numerous times, never to play the game again.

Here we seem to have a new breed of Crybois who just can't stop crying. If you touch fire and it burns you once, stay away from it. If you keep going back into the fire, your a dumbass.

Nuff said

[Mr_Tea 0]

Yawnz.

Talk about the patch itself already!

We did that, until...

I hope the patch helps users, with that strange errors that i never get.

[karantan 0]

The good thing about Crybois in other gaming forums is they tend to bitch, call the game garbage then leave. I've done it numerous times, never to play the game again.

Here we seem to have a new breed of Crybois who just can't stop crying. If you touch fire and it burns you once, stay away from it. If you keep going back into the fire, your a dumbass.

Nuff said

Said fanboy.

[NeMeSiS 11]

I do not whine, we should just replace "bug fixing" with "still developing" and then we would use at least the right wording.

BI agrees with you.

(IMO its not that bad that the whiners stick around, apparently BI did *something* right, after all, they still want to see the game fixed instead of moving on to something else, which is usually the case

Its just annoying to read it constantly, but now we have a whine tread its much easier to ignore most of it. )

[froggyluv 2136]

The good thing about Crybois in other gaming forums is they tend to bitch, call the game garbage then leave. I've done it numerous times, never to play the game again.

Here we seem to have a new breed of Crybois who just can't stop crying. If you touch fire and it burns you once, stay away from it. If you keep going back into the fire, your a dumbass.

Nuff said

Said fanboy.

Hehe. Expected but you could have at least gotten a little more creative than the plaid-out Fanboy.

The fact is I've already submitted my gripes to BTS and made my disappointments known ONCE on the forums. I see no reason to cry like a lil girl until someone listens to me.

Man up people.

[karantan 0]

I do not whine, we should just replace "bug fixing" with "still developing" and then we would use at least the right wording.

BI agrees with you.

(IMO its not that bad that the whiners stick around, apparently BI did *something* right, after all, they still want to see the game fixed instead of moving on to something else, which is usually the case

Its just annoying to read it constantly, but now we have a whine tread its much easier to ignore most of it. )

I think you all should be more respectful towards the whiners; if not for them there would be NO patches and all would be    

It's all the same, on every friggin' site I look in; the fanboys are those who works for a common good and for a better tommorow.

Man up people.

You're apsolutely right froggyluv   : Go BIS go, go BIS go !!!    

[KJAM 0]

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Patches are not aided by whiners, they are however helped by people who give constructive criticism and examples to show the developers the bugs that they have come across

[NeMeSiS 11]

I do not whine, we should just replace "bug fixing" with "still developing" and then we would use at least the right wording.

BI agrees with you.

(IMO its not that bad that the whiners stick around, apparently BI did *something* right, after all, they still want to see the game fixed instead of moving on to something else, which is usually the case

Its just annoying to read it constantly, but now we have a whine tread its much easier to ignore most of it. )

I think you all should be more respectful towards the whiners; if not for them there would be NO patches and all would be    

It's all the same, on every friggin' site I look in; the fanboys are those who works for a common good and for a better tommorow.

There is only 1 big difference between so called fanboys/whiners:

Fanboys tell their problems only once, whiners have to do it every single time they see the opportunity.

(Oh, and the 'fanboys' are quite often people who tend to 'mod for a better future', there are exceptions but most whiners do nothing but whine)

[froggyluv 2136]

Man up people.

You're apsolutely right froggyluv   : Go BIS go, go BIS go !!!    

Amen

I'm glad you've seen the light brother

[Heatseeker 0]

I do not whine, we should just replace "bug fixing" with "still developing" and then we would use at least the right wording.

So I see, the majority is a strong supporter of cheating and lying in business and feels ok with that. Well, at least I know the common mind set of the usual "wait I found an excuse for BI" -boys now.

Bug fixing and continuous development, there are new features that werent promissed to anyone, yet are being/were considered and implemented.

Free new content, new vehicles and weapons for free .

Improving the game further, they didnt have to release better faces, model improvements like new helmets let alone new features, yet they did.

If you wanted this amount of support and new content from an EA game you would probably have to pay for an expantion (or two).

Games industry giants (who have the resources to do better) dont, most developers dont even know about their fanbase let alone support it.

Most of us understand that BIS went thru dificulties putting Arma together and finding (a) publisher(s) to make the game available out there, money will always be an issue for independant developers like BIS, yet they actually invested income on improving their product instead of moving on with the next one.

You could be whining about a canceled project and a developer who had no choice other than switching to "serious games" development while drooling over few leaked VBS2 footage and while playing OPF...

You dont ever try to understand these things and never have anything positive to say. Try sticking to the disapointment thread Wolle kindly made instead of infesting every single topic with your off topic complaints.

Sometimes i think you must be affiliated with codemasters or something .

edit:

I understand that the game isnt and will probably never reach perfection but the way things are going in the forum its currently impossible to discuss features, improvements, etc.

With the amount of bashing and whining its just impossible to have any constructive discussions that might reach BIS consideration.

Whiners havent achieved anything positive here yet... quite the contrary!

[funnyguy1 0]

ArmA sux, the AI is bad, there ar bugs (flying) everywhere, It isn't realistic at all etc...

ehm...wait...it's a wrong topic? Isn't it?

yeah...

Well, ArmA rox! Thank you BI! You're the best guys!

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Seriously, the more patches they make the better the game becomes. thx

[CameronMcDonald 146]

Damn straight. +10e99.

[karantan 0]

There is only 1 big difference between so called fanboys/whiners:

Fanboys tell their problems only once, whiners have to do it every single time they see the opportunity.

Not true, go check the 'Whinners' thread; about/after page 3 not a single 'whining' post was without at least one respond from a fanboy. Not a practice on the oposite thread. The fanboys all mixed it up in their heads; insted to post in 'Fanboys' thread, they rather invade and pest the 'whiners' in their thread.

Quote[/b] ](Oh, and the 'fanboys' are quite often people who tend to 'mod for a better future', there are exceptions but most whiners do nothing but whine)

Again, not true; fanboys are satisfied with EVERYTHING they receive from their 'object of desire', being that a masterpeice or a pile of crap.

But don't mind me (anymore) mate, bo back OT and praise that new patch.