lee_h._oswald 0 Posted May 7, 2004 OFP2 is what will get me to stop playing OFP1 and that's about it. I agree! Let's hope BIS is not going to make it "arcardish" for the sake of some little more money. MfG Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DracoPaladore 0 Posted May 8, 2004 You right. Let all those kiddies play camper strike type games and listen to one backstreet boy is gay and britney spears. and we'll continue enjoy OFP Yes, I'm sorry. I must be too young for this forum because I play BF42/V regularly. I'm sorry, I guess I'm just not old enough, not mature enough, or too stupid to be here. I'm sorry, OFP forums, I must be a immature and disobedient person because I play BFV. I would just like to say I'm sorry for not being up to your high standards, not being able to be at the same level as you. Thank you, all, for labelling me as a "kiddie". I must truely be so because you say this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commander-598 0 Posted May 8, 2004 If BF2 is anything like BF1942 was, you can expect to see the "MEC" with better equipment than the real Russian Federation. I distinctly remember playing BF1942's Russian and US Maps, and being shocked to find out that they were carrying British equipment. Having something set in '44 Belgium without an M1 Garand present is just... wrong... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akira 0 Posted May 8, 2004 It may "suck" but damn its fun to play over the govt. network at work with a bunch of people. When you just wanna blow shit up (or fellow employees). We went from Quake, to Half-Life, briefly to OFP (just explaining the game was a pain in the ass), to BF42 and mods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc. Zaius 0 Posted May 8, 2004 If I ignore it, will it just go away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 1 Posted May 8, 2004 If BF2 is anything like BF1942 was, you can expect to see the "MEC" with better equipment than the real Russian Federation.I distinctly remember playing BF1942's Russian and US Maps, and being shocked to find out that they were carrying British equipment. Having something set in '44 Belgium without an M1 Garand present is just... wrong... ... or the MP18 (German WW1 submachine gun) which magically appeared in BF1942. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted May 8, 2004 I'm not saying that the BF series is bad, necessarily. Hell, I play Day of Defeat and you can't get much more braindead than that. Sometimes I want to play with tactics in mind - so I play OFP. Sometimes I want to camp and gun down people with an MG42 in DoD. The BF series seems to attempt to want to do both, yet fails miserably. All I remember about my brief, horrid time playing BF42 is people bunny hopping and screwing over teammates at the spawn points. At least DoD restricted bunnyhopping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gadger 0 Posted May 8, 2004 If I ignore it, will it just go away?http://lateshow.walagata.com/Ostrich.jpg Yes, yes it will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBSmith 0 Posted May 8, 2004 If people had the free right to walk around in cars in flashpoint while the vehical was in motion, I would hail this game till the end of time. So Substituting BF92 only keeps me happy so long, then im back here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
svendejong 0 Posted May 8, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Dostoevsky once said "Mankind is stupid. Phenomenally stupid." Millions of people in the world also listen to Britney Spears and the Backstreet Boys. Does that mean that just because so many people listen to them that they are good? No, of course not. It just means that many people are attracted to shiny things. Like monkeys and fish. The BF series is shiny, but that's about it. sven hands back the forums filosopher trophy to hellfish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stgn 39 Posted May 8, 2004 Well I have never played eny BF series game but they seem quit unrealistic on some points example the equipment first Ruskies whit Brit guns some wired(I am not sure if it even is) M16A2 in Vietnam and now I see a M1A2 abrams whit smoke lunchers mounted on the "turret" which I have never seen, it was only the first abrams ho had that. Now why can't people make realistic equipment is there a law against it I havent heard of or what STGN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArchangelSKT 0 Posted May 8, 2004 I will check out this game for sure, I`ve only played the BF 1942 demo though and I liked that one pretty much. It seems like a fun diversion from the prefered realism of OPF and in my opinion just about any game that is team based can be good/fun if you play with the right people. Surely in my clan I do so no problem for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted May 8, 2004 If people had the free right to walk around in cars in flashpoint while the vehical was in motion, I would hail this game till the end of time.So Substituting BF92 only keeps me happy so long, then im back here. you cant do it in BF too thats what happen once i have seen in BF:v me:Hey mike why are you hanging around in the chopper and not sitting down? B: Screw it, who care................ (the kid just fly out of the chopper and get killed) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLF 0 Posted May 8, 2004 Well I have never played eny BF series game but they seem quit unrealistic on some points example the equipment first Ruskies whit Brit guns some wired(I am not sure if it even is) M16A2 in Vietnam  and now I see a M1A2 abrams whit smoke lunchers mounted on the "turret" which I have never seen, it was only the first abrams ho had that. Now why can't people make realistic equipment is there a law against it I havent heard of or what STGN Yes because every game has to be uber realistic , o and Vanilla Flashpoint has some inconsistencies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InqWiper 0 Posted May 8, 2004 Arcadish games are good, it keeps some unvanted people away from OFP, unfortunatly it probably keeps away wanted people too. I think BF1942 was pretty fun for a while but OFP is more my kind of game. I tried BFV and I thought that it was worse than BF1942. Im gonna give BF2 a chance, just because its not OFP it doesnt mean it sucks, it just means you wont play it for three years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commander-598 0 Posted May 8, 2004 Well I have never played eny BF series game but they seem quit unrealistic on some points example the equipment first Ruskies whit Brit guns some wired(I am not sure if it even is) M16A2 in Vietnam  and now I see a M1A2 abrams whit smoke lunchers mounted on the "turret" which I have never seen, it was only the first abrams ho had that. Now why can't people make realistic equipment is there a law against it I havent heard of or what STGN Yes because every game has to be uber realistic , o and Vanilla Flashpoint has some inconsistencies. The point is, the designers didn't do much research beyond the game code and player models. Some of the things left out of Bf1942 could have seriously affected the side you choose. Like the Red Army having a Ppsh 41 with the full 71 round mag would kinda make a difference or the Enfields having their full 10 round capacity, or semi-auto M1s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLF 0 Posted May 8, 2004 Well I have never played eny BF series game but they seem quit unrealistic on some points example the equipment first Ruskies whit Brit guns some wired(I am not sure if it even is) M16A2 in Vietnam  and now I see a M1A2 abrams whit smoke lunchers mounted on the "turret" which I have never seen, it was only the first abrams ho had that. Now why can't people make realistic equipment is there a law against it I havent heard of or what STGN Yes because every game has to be uber realistic , o and Vanilla Flashpoint has some inconsistencies. The point is, the designers didn't do much research beyond the game code and player models. Some of the things left out of Bf1942 could have seriously affected the side you choose. Like the Red Army having a Ppsh 41 with the full 71 round mag would kinda make a difference or the Enfields having their full 10 round capacity, or semi-auto M1s. why should they? the game was never supposed to historically accurate also im sure all greivences where solved in the addons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John C Flett 0 Posted May 8, 2004 Joining DracoPaladore in the kiddie area, I also like BF1942. Kick up the bots to about 250% and it can be a lot of fun for a 30minute chill out. Whats wrong with being dumb sometimes? Besides, at least the Battlefield games never pretended to be anything else unlike games like BHD which will still sell themselves as realistic simulations. I'm not going to try to force you to play it if its not your kind of thing but I'm not going to stop enjoying it because some poeple here are stuck on their realism high horse. I do question how far they can milk this style though. 1942 was fun but I have no interest in adding Vietnam, The Star Wars version or others to my collection unless somebody can really improve the single player side of the game. It needent be more realistic, just deeper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commander-598 0 Posted May 8, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Kick up the bots to about 250% and it can be a lot of fun for a 30minute chill out. I do that... I'm not telling anyone to stop either. I'm just saying, it would have been a whole lot better if they had added a few more weapons, and actually tried to make the maps resemble their real life areas more closely. Regarding wrong maps, Kursk comes to mind. They practically made it into a pine forest... I should probably stop ranting for the day... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Frenchman 0 Posted May 9, 2004 In Battlefield 2, players will choose to fight for one of three military superpowers: the United States, China,or the newly formed Middle East Coalition. Sounds like C&C:G to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baron Hurlothrumbo IIX 0 Posted May 9, 2004 Its not a bad game just because its unrealistic: its a bad game because the gameplay is not very good. The weapons are not fun; the vehicles are not fun, the game is not fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted May 9, 2004 Quote[/b] ]Battlefield 2 brings the intensity and excitement of its predecessors, Battlefield 1942 and Battlefield Vietnam into the modern era So people will have to wait for a year to get same BF crap as before except with modern stuff? Well some people consider this as news... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Death 0 Posted May 9, 2004 hmm - i just can't understand all of this negative feelings about the topic of this thread. See - i'm 100% OFP freak - this game has changed my life. Before OFP i've bought a new game (or two) almost every month. OFP did then settle me down as i just haven't got any time left to even consider taking another game's cover to only read the description on the backside of it. Now i do love making missions + scripting + hanging around every day at 3 OFP sites (here - OFPEC - OFP.info) - i just can't let it be  I got now a whole lot of addons, which i think do cover a wide range of different situations for war. Everytime a new addon is released i'm running in circles followed by a moonwalk and a flip flop ending up in a loud hip hop horray.  I've been playing multiplayer in a squad for a long time, + i've also got great experience when it comes to multiplayer mission making. I've tried to support the mission editing comunity with solutions for their problems here and at OFPEC and i'm still doing that. I've always tried to recreate the situations they expected to get to work, just to come back with a working solution. I've even learned most of the stuff i know that way. But now i've reached a point, where i just can't spend 8 hours in ofp without getting the feeling: "i've already seen that". I know about so many things, just not possible or only by complex workarounds. Let's say: free movement inside moving vehicles. as some here already mentioned it's a worse thing, i've seen alot of ppl complaining about it's not possible in OFP, but would fit perfectly into their situation. Let's name one more: close quarter battles It's just not really perfect actually in OFP - say what you want now but that's a fact. Before i continue i'd like to say: i still can't live without having to start OFP at least once per day, just to hop into the editor and if it's only for making a few clicks. OFP is still my favourite game, as i've never had a game like that before. Well that should be clarified i think let's go on: I am playing BF desert combat and BF 1918 (ww1 mod). I must say - i didn't expect anything more from that game than it's featuring and i'm really fine with it. If i want to have a piece of trench fighting, i start 1918 mod, and if i want to go for some close quarter battles, i start desert combat mod. Many players are online - that's a fact - not the best comunity ingame as there are a lot of tk'ers or spawnkiller's but it doesn't take long to find a game where it's ok. OK, 1918 mod i haven't been playing for a while so i don't know about it's actual players online states. Now there are a few things in multiplayer functionality where this game has gone one step one step ahead of OFP - this off course as it's been supposed to be a multiplayer game right from start (OFP veterans do know the story, how high the multiplayer aspects were taken when codemasters said: it's time to make money with the game now). The thing i don't understand is: why do so many guys just speak against BF instead of ignoring it if you don't like it. If this would be a thread about a new addon being released, alot of mods would have already been cumming in there to say: "if you have nothing constructive to say about this topic - let it be" For some reason this thread makes me feel that some ppl do fear that "the best game i've ever seen" has to fear another one. Let's hope this won't happen when OFP2 comes out and ppl start complaining: ah that's sh** and a*se #%$f* nobody can ruin my ofp 1 world. BF is in no way reaching the stage, OFP did for us, but still it's fun if you just want to start a game for half an hour or even 2 hours. It's also only a monoton game, covering only one aspect of gameplay, while OFP features a lot of different aspects, but it's still not bad at all in that. Finale: OFP  is the most exciting experience in pc games i've ever had, but BF is ok if you want to go for some straight fights just for fun. There's no reason for comparing these two different pairs of shoes IMHO. :edit - lol - totally lost the main topic now I will for sure at least have a look for BF2 when it's there. ~S~ CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iNeo 0 Posted May 9, 2004 Well said Chris. Most of you here are being ridiculous and just bash on BF, even though 90+ % of you haven't even tried the game. Say what you want, but Digital Illusions must be doing something right since a lot of people are playing their game and they've got some awards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites