Shadow NX 1 Posted June 27, 2003 Not much to test yet... the script isnt implemented yet, but it should be in a few days. How it works... well, if an rocket is fired at the tank it will get destroyed when its in the range of the arena system. In OFP it is like the rocket hits an invisible wall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theavonlady 2 Posted June 27, 2003 How it works... well, if an missile is fired at the tank it will get destroyed when its in the range of the arena system.Its like there is an wall it hits. SHIELDS UP! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted June 27, 2003 Looking good guys, that T-80 just looks peachy, can't wait to mash some rebels with it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted June 27, 2003 Not much to test yet... the script isnt implemented yet, but it should be in a few days.How it works... well, if an rocket is fired at the tank it will get destroyed when its in the range of the arena system. In OFP it is like the rocket hits an invisible wall. So its impossible to hit it with a rocket? Or just very very hard? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLF 0 Posted June 27, 2003 id also like to know the failure rate. also if your within a min range can you get past the counter measures? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sxep 0 Posted June 27, 2003 Sounds like sci-fi. It just jams the rocket so it will crash am i right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Przezdzieblo 0 Posted June 27, 2003 Nice, but Arena still is not tested in combat. No info about it`s failure rate, no info about interaction with different AT missiles. Maybe most popular RPG will have less effect on T80/90 armour, but what about heavy TOWs and Hellfires? Model looks good as usual. Now most important is to create accurate scripts and to not spoil visual effect with some bugs of how model is working in game... Maybe now Shtora? Apparent targets for rockets and cloud of smoke around tank? Is it possible to do it like in heli`s and to emulate threat decoys (f. e. yellow lamp alert in AH-1)? And to force tank to behave like BAS Chinook (not flying ;) but use smoke and jamming)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PFC_Mike 2 Posted June 27, 2003 My guess is that IRL it will be pretty high for several reasons. 1. Soviet, and also Russian Federation electronics have screwed up bad before. Look at the BMP3 for instance. And the failure of fancy ecm systems is fairly common everywhere *Patriot* 2. What are the odds that a crew of draftees is likely to be very skilled in its operation? The Russians are still taking bad losses in Chechnya, not just from suicide bombers. Also, are there going to be any updates on the Iraqi tanks? If so, could you turn down the accuracy on them to simulate the aging barrels, bad ammo, and bad training? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted June 27, 2003 The arena system is a unique system that was developed in the start of 90's but was cancelled due to no governmental subsidizing and was later continued in '93 i think by the institution's own financing. Since there is no other system in the world which can do this german and us reserchers became very interested in Arena and now are watching further testing. The incoming ATGM is detected by the radar on the top (see pic) and one of the charges that u see on the turret fires in the same direction as the ATGM is coming from causing it to explode prematurely. A 100mm plate only gets scratches from explosion. Maybe soon we will release a video if it at work but im not promising anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted June 27, 2003 Sounds like sci-fi.It just jams the rocket so it will crash am i right? Thats SHTORA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koolkid101 0 Posted June 27, 2003 What if a person was turned out of the cockpit, and the arena system made the missle explode would the explosion be close enough to kill the person who's outside? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted June 27, 2003 Thats one good looking tank you got there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
killagee 0 Posted June 27, 2003 Sounds similar to the SLID system from Boeing... Maybe they give an audible warning before they fire? No time for that I guess "The system designated SLID for "Small, Low-cost Interceptor Device, " consists of a small, maneuverable hit-to-kill interceptor, high-speed launcher, passive threat warning sensor and precision fire control system. The SLID Technology Development and Demonstration program is addressing the need for self defense of military vehicles and helicopters, and area defense of soft targets such as command posts, air defense radars, counter mortar/counter battery radars, and parked aircraft. Threats are defeated at standoff ranges of up to 250 meters, and include Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (ATGMs), High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) rounds, mortar rounds, and artillery shells. The entire integrated system is sized to reside on a small platform, with maximum component commonality between the vehicle self-defense system and the area defense system." Boeing Page BTW, your tanks give me goose bumps whenever I look at them... Far to good looking to Blow Up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akm74 1 Posted June 27, 2003 there is some information on "arena" system http://www.milparade.com/catalog/pdf/185-187.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sigma-6 29 Posted June 27, 2003 SLID is actually closer to Russia's DROZD (Thrush) than it is to Arena. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted June 27, 2003 And DROZD is a much more insignificant system compared to Arena, Arena was supposed to be its successer but surpassed it in alot of ways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
attilauk 0 Posted June 27, 2003 What if a person was turned out of the cockpit, and the arena system made the missle explode would the explosion be close enough to kill the person who's outside? Not being funny but if you were turned out when the missile hit you would still be dead! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akm74 1 Posted June 27, 2003 to PFC_Mike I just read your sign. Sorry, but I think you MUST pay more respect to person who was part of OFP community from very beginning. But if you just must have something in your sign, use this picture instead. It will perfectly represent your “point of view†:-) Sorry for off topic guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milkman 1 Posted June 27, 2003 to PFC_MikeI just read your sign. Sorry, but I think you MUST pay more respect to person who was part of OFP community from very beginning. What is wrong with his sig? He has his rights, and it isnt flaming, being a bigot, or being derogitory in any way. Denior had a negative impact on me and many other members of this forum, and I believe we have to right to express our views of him too. Edit: Just to be on topic, I like that T80, looks like very promising work guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted June 27, 2003 But if you just must have something in your sign, use this picture instead. It will perfectly represent your “point of view†:-) Regardless of the offtopic i still love that pic...oh oh and did u see the one where he is in a kindergarten and hes standing by a girl and holding a book........and its upside down Anyway peeps if u have personal quarels please discuss in PM. btw thnx for all the positive coments, this means u earned urself a little surprise soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koolkid101 0 Posted June 27, 2003 But if you just must have something in your sign, use this picture instead. It will perfectly represent your “point of view†:-) Regardless of the offtopic i still love that pic...oh oh and did u see the one where he is in a kindergarten and hes standing by a girl and holding a book........and its upside down  Anyway peeps if u have personal quarels please discuss in PM. btw thnx for all the positive coments, this means u earned urself a little surprise soon Ohh sounds so good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfish6 7 Posted June 27, 2003 My OT bit: Please keep this thread on topic. What PFC_Mike has in his sig is fine by community standards. You may not agree with it, but it is, technically, alright. If you have an issue with it, please take it to PMs. My OT bit: Looking forward to the tanks. Can't wait to see the ARENA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
munger 25 Posted June 27, 2003 Some of the stuff being made by RHS makes me drool. Actually scratch that; ALL of the stuff being made by them makes me drool. That MI-28 in particular looks so good I could eat it. Actually, Caucasus Crisis is also making a lot of nice stuff, like troops with new weapons and anims and a nice SU-27. Oh and of course Suchey and Earl are also creating a couple of great looking modern Ruskies. The Russians will soon have their revenge after being stomped all over by the masses of US hardware arrayed against them for so long. BTW, while I'm on, what exactly happened to Denoir? I go on this forum several times every day and suddenly one day I find out from someone's sig that he's gone but without any explanation or thread or anyone talking about him leaving or anything. Could someone enlighten me or is it some kind of conspiracy whereby suddenly noone's ever heard the name Denoir? Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smogmorph 0 Posted June 27, 2003 BTW, while I'm on, what exactly happened to Denoir? A long explanation by denoir himself ---------- The ARENA system sounds great! I didn't know tanks had such countermeassures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted June 28, 2003 But if you just must have something in your sign, use this picture instead. It will perfectly represent your “point of view†:-) Regardless of the offtopic i still love that pic...oh oh and did u see the one where he is in a kindergarten and hes standing by a girl and holding a book........and its upside down  Anyway peeps if u have personal quarels please discuss in PM. btw thnx for all the positive coments, this means u earned urself a little surprise soon Not that i like him too much but that pic was an fake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites