ARMA 2: OA beta build 85680

[f2k sel 164]

I agree with all that Ruebe, I'm sure it would make Stealth and night missions far more interesting.

[fabrizio_t 58]

Confirming some AI issues in build 85680, updated tickets:

AI infantry does not react properly on being under fire from range

http://dev-heaven.net/issues/25544

AI infantry units not moving into nearby cover when threatened.

http://dev-heaven.net/issues/25543

Please take a look and vote, thank you.

[Isola 10]

i get this error message from every beta patch,only with stable 1.59 everything goes flawlessly,any tips?

[roberthammer 582]

i get this error message from every beta patch,only with stable 1.59 everything goes flawlessly,any tips?

This bug is causing some addon mostly

Edited October 22, 2011 by RobertHammer

[Isola 10]

This bug is causing some addon mostly

i'm gonna find out witch one...i hope.

Should i exclude all your addons? :p

Edited October 22, 2011 by Isola

[msy 22]

I find a mission issue in beta patch.

http://dev-heaven.net/issues/25768

Obs:

At least in beta 85680, when you play the SP mission E04: Jackal, you can kill many patrols of the base and you can waste your bullets on them but the alarm doesn't work compareing with 1.59 full patch in which once you kill one or two patrols you will trigger the alarm.

Exp:

If you kill some one quickly and no others find it then the alarm should not be triggered, in stead the trigger will work.

If you kill the soldier on the tower, he falls down, you will trigger the alarm.

If you kill one of some and others see his down you will trigger the alarm.

If one patrol finds a dead body he will trigger the alarm.

If you hurt one soldier he will also trigger the alarm.

If a soldier of the base is aware of you when you shoot at him, he will trigger the alarm.

This is the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqWkuf6izRo

What's more, in this video, you can see at 1:42 that the soldier was shot but not down until 5 seconds later (1:47). I don't know if this bug has a CIT or I may build a new one for it.

Well, I have built one.

http://dev-heaven.net/issues/25770

Edited October 22, 2011 by msy

[SaOk 112]

While playing SP mission (this time a different one than in my previous report), player was again threw out of his group while wounded with the advanced first aid module enabled. This time the flip happened while waiting for a medic wounded (last time when got healed) for quite long time (~1-2min). I havent got this issue in older versions, but now in these latest 2 betas. I delete empty groups every 80 seconds if thats connected to this somehow. Still it havent caused conflict before (I have used same methods over year). Have there been some changes for the first aid module lately?

[fruity_rudy 16]

Sorry guys, i was off for a bit, tried this beta since a long time..

Did anybody already mention, that a player next to you , in mp, when he is moving a bit and stands still, he's like hovering a bit and then stops? I noticed that, sorry if it already has been reported.

I can't read all the previous stuff, to be up to date. i would read the whole week :)

[Isola 10]

any ideas?

Exe timestamp: 2011/10/22 17:39:50

Current time: 2011/10/22 19:31:46

Version 1.59.85680

Item str_disp_server_control listed twice

Cannot register unknown string STR_VERY_LARGE

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[fruity_rudy 16]

Ah, ok it's the beta..i was afk for such a long time, i thought it's about my addons..i can confirm that

[On_Sabbatical 11]

i get this error message from every beta patch,only with stable 1.59 everything goes flawlessly,any tips?

That bug happens when the .exe files dont have same version as files maybe ...

Try reinstalling the game or try verifying cache intergity if you use steam.

[Robalo 465]

any ideas?

Your RPT is missing important info, the lines before all that that show what mods are loaded, like this for example:

=====================================================================
== C:\Steam\steamapps\common\arma 2 operation arrowhead\Expansion\beta\arma2oa.exe
== "C:\Steam\steamapps\common\arma 2 operation arrowhead\Expansion\beta\arma2oa.exe" -noSplash -noFilePatching -skipIntro -cpuCount=4 -showscripterrors "-name=Robalo" "-mod=expansion\beta;expansion\beta\expansion;@RH_HK416;@RH_MGS;@ACEX_SM;@CBA;@sthud;@RH_Pistol;@UKF_UKweps;@RH_M4;@RH_MK18;@ACE;@ACEX;@ACEX_USNavy;@ACEX_RU;@test"
=====================================================================

[Isola 10]

Your RPT is missing important info, the lines before all that that show what mods are loaded, like this for example:

=====================================================================
== C:\Steam\steamapps\common\arma 2 operation arrowhead\Expansion\beta\arma2oa.exe
== "C:\Steam\steamapps\common\arma 2 operation arrowhead\Expansion\beta\arma2oa.exe" -noSplash -noFilePatching -skipIntro -cpuCount=4 -showscripterrors "-name=Robalo" "-mod=expansion\beta;expansion\beta\expansion;@RH_HK416;@RH_MGS;@ACEX_SM;@CBA;@sthud;@RH_Pistol;@UKF_UKweps;@RH_M4;@RH_MK18;@ACE;@ACEX;@ACEX_USNavy;@ACEX_RU;@test"
=====================================================================

this problem happens only with the beta patches,no matter how many mods running.

I tried with only baf-beta-beta-expansion-pmc enabled.....same...:(

[Fireball 16]

Hey guys..

...you won`t believe what i found out yesterday...

[bug #16421] Changing gear in briefing screen is not working reliable in MP

Unrelated comment removed from ticket.

[nobrainer 0]

@Isola: Sure you got A2:CO loaded right when you use the beta?

[Robalo 465]

this problem happens only with the beta patches,no matter how many mods running.

I tried with only baf-beta-beta-expansion-pmc enabled.....same...:(

If you post your startup line as requested we might be able to figure it out.

[Isola 10]

@Isola: Sure you got A2:CO loaded right when you use the beta?

yes sir!Plus BAF and PMC

---------- Post added at 07:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:26 PM ----------

If you post your startup line as requested we might be able to figure it out.

here you are,no addons loaded.

UPDATE

Solved!

I'm using Arma Launcher and the "addon" called "expansion/beta" should be put in higher priority than "expansion".

sorry!!

Edited October 22, 2011 by Isola

[-=seany=- 5]

Don't know if its worth posting this but, just wanted to say that having used the beta for a couple of weeks with the teleporting / interpolation fixes, this is how things are for me.

AI Infantry - seem about the same, may be slightly less warping.

AI Tracked Vehicles- just as bad except now instead of jumping backwards they "reverse"/slide backwards when they teleport. Some times they also stop moving and begin rising nose first into the air, then warp backwards.

AI Wheeled Vehicles- Same as Pre-beta

AI Helos- Same as pre-beta

Human helos- Slightly better, probably the best of all.

I admit my tests come from a Domination mission with large numbers of AI, maybe such servers will always lag like a bugger with 35 + people on. But still, I don't want any one to say when the patch is released; "No one said".

I have to say that all of the above are better up to a certain point, eg fewer players on the server. But is it the server failing when more people join or is it the network code of the game? It's easy to say it is the server but I have to wonder to be honest.

Edited October 23, 2011 by -=seany=-

[.kju 3241]

Server is latest beta too? Does it use custom minErrorToSend values?

[Beagle 684]

Server is latest beta too? Does it use custom minErrorToSend values?

For some people today posting nothing for a prolonged time equals nonexistance.

[-=seany=- 5]

Server is latest beta too? Does it use custom minErrorToSend values?

I don't run the server so I have no idea.

I was under the impression that the server did not have to run the beta for the client to see improvements in this area?

There is a difference for sure, so just the client running the beta does have an effect on what you see online, with regards warping.

For some people today posting nothing for a prolonged time equals nonexistance.

Monty Python much?

Edited October 23, 2011 by -=seany=-

[.kju 3241]

New beta server is very important.

To understand it better consider the different kind of changes part of the latest beta now:

• Interpolation is basically a local visual tweak - otherwise it would not be compatible to 1.59
  
• Netcode changes are not always incompatible to earlier versions, but mostly.
  
• The beta contains a few netcode optimizations, but these are mostly about JIP, large player count scenarios (as far as I can remember).
  
• The server changes is "just" a different default value. It makes the server sends up to ten times as much information to client. Hence less warping.
  
• This is mostly about distance units. However it introduces a new parameter to tweak close units separately. So also more options for better configuration.
  
• The network parameter matters much. Interpolation too. Only in the combination you get the best result.
  

So bottom line is:

Client only use of beta patch certainly helps, different network configuration

for server even helps with 1.59 alone, yet in the end only both server and

client with latest beta and a good network configuration get you the best results.

[tarabas 10]

performance is like 10 fps less compare to the 84xxx beta patches

[Dwarden 1124]

performance is like 10 fps less compare to the 84xxx beta patches

measured how, where ...

[OMAC 254]

I find a mission issue in beta patch.

http://dev-heaven.net/issues/25768

Obs:

At least in beta 85680, when you play the SP mission E04: Jackal, you can kill many patrols of the base and you can waste your bullets on them but the alarm doesn't work compareing with 1.59 full patch in which once you kill one or two patrols you will trigger the alarm.

Exp:

If you kill some one quickly and no others find it then the alarm should not be triggered, in stead the trigger will work.

If you kill the soldier on the tower, he falls down, you will trigger the alarm.

If you kill one of some and others see his down you will trigger the alarm.

If one patrol finds a dead body he will trigger the alarm.

If you hurt one soldier he will also trigger the alarm.

If a soldier of the base is aware of you when you shoot at him, he will trigger the alarm.

This is the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqWkuf6izRo

What's more, in this video, you can see at 1:42 that the soldier was shot but not down until 5 seconds later (1:47). I don't know if this bug has a CIT or I may build a new one for it.

Well, I have built one.

http://dev-heaven.net/issues/25770

I have confirmed both of the above. The second issue has been around for quite a while; I noticed it playing the Jackal in 1.58 or 1.59. The first issue is particularly worrisome. I made some notes on the ticket for #25768.