Muahaha 10 Posted May 13, 2011 Anyone noticed that BIS likes to have different time era in it's hack. Time capsule that was buried, a poem from 18th AD Persia, 1821 Greece ,from imperial china to vietnam war, and now this various years and era in history, plus the timeborer, timeseeker thingie. Time seems to be the only linkage from all the hacks. Or is it just me that is massively confused.... ( i think the mass confuser is working real fine) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwringer 45 Posted May 13, 2011 There does seem to be a clear indication of specific events in which one party suffers or is defeated, but ends up winning a larger struggle. Beyond that I agree my above post offers tenuous connections in places. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
da12thMonkey 1943 Posted May 13, 2011 I've summarized the names, places and dates on the wiki entry to help people understand the apparent links discussed in this thread, that the community has used to sort the data obtained in this hack. Hopefully it's concise enough to explain indicate why the four words link to those who've missed the discussion. Gonna leave it for tonight as it's late/early: but feel free to expand on the points. Just glad I have the day off tomorrow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwringer 45 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) I'm still not entirely convinced I've got the relationships between the people fully resolved, is there a theme perhaps with 'resting places'? Seems evident on the wiki from a few places on the list. I'm not familiar enough with all the subjects in question to say one way or the other at this point. EDIT: I think It's probably going too far into it though at this point. I think we might need to look at the evidence about Malden, Miller, the Astute, Astute:statue anagram, etc, to finally be able to put some pieces together. I don't know if there would or wouldn't be another clue after all this to help us put everything together, but the persian 'goodbye' might indicate that there will NOT be. EDIT 2: So, here's what I'm thinking currently. The events of OFP did not play out as they should have. What happened there led to something happening later in that region involving China, Greece, Persia, and/or Turkey that was not supposed to happen, and the balance of power has dangerously shifted. SO the idea is that miller was supposed to die at malden, it was supposed to have been nuked. That ties him in with the other name/date/place sets from today's hack. He would have died there, and the Soviets winning would have been temporary but prevented something much worse? EDIT 3: Err, whoops. OFP is set in 1985, so it can't be. Unless he was the child of someone from OFP. Edited May 13, 2011 by dwringer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WisemanRAX 0 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) These are are all guerrilla leaders that "changed the world" in the theater of war they were in. Some of them died during the conflict to inspire others and others were unsung heros in secret wars. I think these lists of leaders and the places they fought suggests that the next ArmA game will involve a type of guerrilla leader that will lead some movement,in Europe ( if you take the map as a clue ), that will play a role in a life changing event in that specific area, sometimes risking his/her life. Edited May 13, 2011 by WisemanRAX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pathetic_berserker 4 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) The resistance connection also explains the earlier Greek references wich were cultural icons of thier struggle for independance. DOH! so slow! Question now is where is this next struggle going to take place. I'm going to asume that Scott Miller is the lead character, but who is he helping and why? Edited May 13, 2011 by Pathetic_Berserker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
max power 21 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) It seems like in the last attack that when the counter stops at Miller's birth that the future is uncertain after that point, or Search.exe has a problem going past that point for some reason. Search.exe didn't have the birthday of Einstein, the write brothers, or anyone else that is important, so he must be not necessarily important to history but at least important to P8H8 or the time travelling search program. Let's see if brainstorming on the themes can tell us anything. Attack 1 Photographs, Paths, Hidden Treasure Maps, intelligence, plans Attack 2 ChDKZ, elections, posters Roman numerals, submarine, navy, astute Attack 3 Camouflage, Autostereogram, 3d Miller, Drafting, SBS, Novak Attack 4 Phonecall, email, ascii, puzzle Breaking walls, breaking through, animation, poetry, proverb, hubris Attack 4 Forum spam, Red Pegasus Greece: flora, fauna, armed forces, revolution, motto, religion Attack 5 Interview, pseudonyms, search, barcodes, puzzle Time travel, history, Miller, wars, turning points, great achievements Attack 6 Friday the 13th, cyphers Dates, names, places, partisans, legends, stories There seems to be like a progression here that starts out with plans, and ends with turning points and then legends. There's boundaries being smashed, themes of overconfidence... It almost seems like there's a narrative here. But how does Greece fit in? What do you think? Edited May 13, 2011 by Max Power Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobocz 10 Posted May 13, 2011 There seems to be like a progression here that starts out with plans, and ends with turning points and then legends. There's boundaries being smashed, themes of overconfidence... It almost seems like there's a narrative here. But how does Greece fit in? What do you think? Great summary. I have to print it out. It's morning, rainy here, bad concision for speculation. You are right with Greece that doesn't fit to whole (yet), place where story will take place? We have to wait for next attack if reveal more clues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steakslim 1 Posted May 13, 2011 Maybe the next game will involve a campaign centered around a rebellion that somehow involves, or even more, instigated by Miller? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mankyle 422 Posted May 13, 2011 There are constant references lately to the Ottoman Empire and Greece. Greece and Turkey (where the Ottoman Empire had its power) do not get along well The reference to Walachia and Vlad the Impaler referes to the Ottoman Empire too Maybe a NATO rupture? An Aegean Greek/Turkish war? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted May 13, 2011 May be a CIA supported rebellion in Iran? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbishop 10 Posted May 13, 2011 May be a CIA supported rebellion in Iran? Was just typing that. CIA creates some sort of chaos and sparks a war. Or the iranians nuclear program sparks up a cold war with greece. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobocz 10 Posted May 13, 2011 I forgot thanks to guys, for me with night shift, who solve puzzle and cipher. Good work . Hacker are clever with 42 hours attack ;). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pathetic_berserker 4 Posted May 13, 2011 Maybe a NATO rupture? An Aegean Greek/Turkish war? Hmmm maybe, but I think the Greek connection was probably the hackers first attempt to highlight the 'resistance' angle. Thats not to say that a former ottaman empire state could not be involved. The Ottaman Empire was quite large and could possibly accomadate the BIS disposition for fictional states. Would be nice to get a Mediteranean style map, though I can see also now a perfect set up for a Libyan (Libya is ex Ottaman also) style scenario. SBS guy goes in to over throw dictator and rescue oil reserves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Banshee 9 Posted May 13, 2011 (edited) Neretva is a very famous river in history. It connected the persian/turkish/osman part of the world with the christian part. In 1555 the bridge 'Stari Most' was build to connect the muslim and christian part of Mostar (it's still the case to day). 1943 the axis planned an operation against the juguslavian guerilla lead by Tito who later became the president of juguslavia (his death lead to the destabilization of juguslavia and somehow to the bosnian war). EDIT: Damn you guys are fast. :) The 'bye' or 'may god be with you' stuff may indicate that the next 'hack' will reveal the full story. At least I hope so. :) Edited May 13, 2011 by Banshee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 13, 2011 So after reading up on all this, I see we've ended up with a bunch of dates, places and names that show an overall theme of rebellion/resistance, one of which is a direct reference to OFP. This may be wishful thinking, but I interpret this as an indicator for the nature of the story/campaign in the product BIS are working on. If that's true, one of my long time wishes for the Arma series has been granted. :D The 'bye' or 'may god be with you' stuff may indicate that the next 'hack' will reveal the full story.At least I hope so. :) It might suggest that the hacks are over, in which case we will hopefully be getting a proper announcement soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bulldogs 10 Posted May 13, 2011 I get the feeling that England will be invaded and Miller will be on the sub (astute) when it happens, using the sub to carry out guerilla warfare. Keep in mind that the Astute doesn't need to refuel. Although that's speculation of course, but it sounds like it's at least some resistance based thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigMorgan 11 Posted May 13, 2011 I get the feeling that England will be invaded... "...we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender." :eek: Sounds terribly improbable though, even in a fictionalized universe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alwarren 2767 Posted May 13, 2011 Well I'd think that the hacks are over now, seeing how the hacker said "Goodbye". That might mean there is an announcement incoming. I surely hope so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roberthammer 582 Posted May 13, 2011 Well I'd think that the hacks are over now, seeing how the hacker said "Goodbye". That might mean there is an announcement incoming. I surely hope so. I hope that too :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gedis 0 Posted May 13, 2011 Good job everyone, just wanted to say, if the "hacks" are over, this will be moved to offtopic. By moving to offtopic it will be confermed that "hacks" are really over ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted May 13, 2011 I hope they won't keep us waiting till E3:( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_antipop 10 Posted May 13, 2011 I hope they won't keep us waiting till E3:( Likewise... Hopefully something soon. Maybe Monday? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 13, 2011 I hope they won't keep us waiting till E3:( That would just be cruel. E3 is almost a month away! I'm hoping for an announcement some time next week, at the latest. Or, if the hacks aren't over yet, some hacks with some more solid information. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purepassion 22 Posted May 13, 2011 remember the Nvidia Profile "Arma2Free.exe" ? I think it doesnt mean "free" like meaning "free of charge" but could be something like Arma 2 Free Europe or something similar with locations in and next to Europe with a focus on Guerilla fights, SpecOps and liberation fights. Maybe some hostage rescue missions of British citizens captured by guerillas The story could be a fictional invading of Europe by some extremist who refer to some old history ideologies but to be honest i will appreciate everything BIS will publish i would be totally happy with just an propper Physic engine ( remember the ASCII animation ;) ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites