R0adki11 3949 Posted August 16, 2010 its very to sad to hear :( Thank you for all your hard work and what you brought to the community especially Arma. I think alot of us addon makers are in the same boat so to speak, i will be probably unable to release any of my own addons due to hex editing etc. :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colossus 2 Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) Dreadful news. I had high hopes for this mod. I can't say much about licensing but I can say this: The number of mods and addons are diminishing and this doesn't help neither you guys or anyone else trying to create a better game. One can only dream, but I wish we were back to the OFP:CWC days. Last word before it goes under - Got to say that Etendard looks beautiful! So much detail in the work. It fits quite well to my vision of RACS. Either way. Chin up, there should be alot more out there then this place, Wld427. Wouldn't want to lose such potential because of these current events. Keep it up! Edited August 17, 2010 by colossus typo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laertes 10 Posted August 16, 2010 This fucking sucks. I probably shouldn't be surprised but I never thought BIS would do this. I thought they appreciated the community. I hope you're still going to stay involved in the mod scene, in some way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomatoArden 0 Posted August 16, 2010 Makes no sense why BIS dont just let you use this stuff in their own game? not like your taking stuff from a more expensive game in their line-up and putting it in their older titles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enad 11 Posted August 16, 2010 This sucks. I agree with what Big Mac is saying. These licences are ruining the community and could of been explain to us earlier so some one like wld doesnt spend 3 years working on a mod just to have it be "illegal." Thanks BIS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomatoArden 0 Posted August 16, 2010 Between this and RKSLs projects, BIS are beginning o look like they're making a hash of helping the people who contribute to making their game great out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mac 19 Posted August 16, 2010 but I wish we were back to the OFP:CWC days.Back in those days BIS didn't give two shits about people using their stuff now they're all high and mighty about copyright, like anyone here is going to rip off BIS. Sooner or later the only mods that'll be left will be BIS DLCs.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enad 11 Posted August 16, 2010 So this means basically every mod, every reskin....is gone. Well...there goes the community. Nice job BIS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R0adki11 3949 Posted August 16, 2010 I can only hope we have an official statement from BIS saying what is and isn't allowed, but at the moment im just wishing it was the OFP days when addOn making was so much easier then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devil Dogs SF 13 Posted August 16, 2010 Dude...What the fuck BIS? This is really saddening to see happening, I mean Activision or Codemasters I can see doing this, but BIS? What? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enad 11 Posted August 16, 2010 I can only hope we have an official statement from BIS saying what is and isn't allowed, but at the moment im just wishing it was the OFP days when addOn making was so much easier then. 100% Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkhorse 1-6 16 Posted August 16, 2010 I can only hope we have an official statement from BIS saying what is and isn't allowed, but at the moment im just wishing it was the OFP days when addOn making was so much easier then. Same here. I hope like hell this isn't the end of the community, though I suspect it might be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cotala Studios 10 Posted August 16, 2010 This is absolutely ridiculous. BIS was the inspiration for me trying to start my own business. Making games modder friendly. Supporting your community. Understanding that you original product is cool, but hundreds of modders can make it even better. BIS, you just took a great business, and through it down the shitter. 5 minutes ago, I was certain that I was buying the British DLC, but now I am not so sure. It is not like these people are stealing your stuff and starting their own business from it. They are giving it out for free for the enjoyment of people who payed $50, and often for a new computer, in order to buy your game. And as far as credits go, in 99.99999999999% of the readmes I have actually read, they have credited BIS for 'creating an awesome, modder friendly game'. I suppose we will no longer be seeing the latter part of this statement, now will we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Mac 19 Posted August 16, 2010 I say release it anyway and if they wanna make a fuss about it have them battle it out in civil court. I'm sure some judge will explain to both parties the purpose of copyright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Devil Dogs SF 13 Posted August 16, 2010 Same here. I hope like hell this isn't the end of the community, though I suspect it might be. :( Hopefully BIS realized that the main appeal since OFP is the vast ammount of addons available for people to use. As good as the vannila game is, playing with default units in the vannila game gets old fast and doesn't give mission creators enough for ideas or abilities to create scenarios. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
enad 11 Posted August 16, 2010 :(Hopefully BIS realized that the main appeal since OFP is the vast ammount of addons available for people to use. As good as the vannila game is, playing with default units in the vannila game gets old fast and doesn't give mission creators enough for ideas or abilities to create scenarios. SO true. This whole thing has really pissed me off. Addons are one of the reasons why I'm still playing ArmA 2/OA. Hell if ArmA 2 had no addons, I definitely wouldn't be playing it today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1050 Posted August 16, 2010 Geez guys would you all take a deep breath and wait for further statements from Marek before you all join that panic wave and scrap your projects? Right now no one knows exactly what there will be and all of the sudden everyone stopping their projects based on speculations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightrain 10 Posted August 16, 2010 (edited) This is truly sad news. Such a massive mod with amazing content has to end, but like Wolle said, Have Hope. Edited August 17, 2010 by Nightrain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soul_assassin 1750 Posted August 16, 2010 Geez guys would you all take a deep breath and wait for further statements from Marek before you all join that panic wave and scrap your projects?Right now no one knows exactly what there will be and all of the sudden everyone stopping their projects based on speculations. I agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rksl-rock 1300 Posted August 16, 2010 Geez guys would you all take a deep breath and wait for further statements from Marek before you all join that panic wave and scrap your projects?Right now no one knows exactly what there will be and all of the sudden everyone stopping their projects based on speculations. I agree too. Damn, why is it people always leap to the worst conclusion. Lets just take a break and wait until Marek actually tells us what is really going to happen... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wld427 1705 Posted August 16, 2010 Geez guys would you all take a deep breath and wait for further statements from Marek before you all join that panic wave and scrap your projects?Right now no one knows exactly what there will be and all of the sudden everyone stopping their projects based on speculations. I still ahve hope. i have archived all my files and hope and pray. If the case becomes one BI developer says one thing and another says something that conflicts it...... i WILL NOT be caught in the middle....... Thanks for all the kind words gents...... I hope BIS is listening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1125 Posted August 16, 2010 next time, if someone have private questions in private discussion with me and want to get private answers then would be nice to ask if You want to publish them and which and especially if You understood at all what i said ... seems like someone completely ignored what i tried to explain ... also ignored my and Marek's post in the threads "Why license do matter" here http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=105256 that we wil release update on the issue(s) and to make things easier to You (to understood, to use and so on) after GC ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wld427 1705 Posted August 16, 2010 I understood what you said completely....... I published no direct details other than there was a discussion....... do not get mad at me. I will not post the conversations here out of hope of someday your words will be overturned by maruk. I did not ignore your posts about licenses. I am not going to fight with you. I am in no way being slanderous or calling names, flamebating, etc. I simply informed everyone after our conversation that with the information you provided me there unfortunately cannot be a Project RACS anymore In the end the results of said conversation and your comments here have brought me to the point where its just not worth the hassle anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fighterman 10 Posted August 17, 2010 what a ballbag Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1050 Posted August 17, 2010 whoa i leave for 2 hours and the world is falling apart anyone care to catch me up while i read previous pages?OH WAHT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT bis as much as i respect your shit in general, i am not respecting your shit now. please fix your shit so we can all be one happy community do not turn into activision and infinity ward. i want to play arma2, not modern warshit 2. ok but seriously what the hell +1 infraction for that outburst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites