So many idiots, so little time

[sirex 0]

theres alot of annoying things other than TK, does anyone know a group that run a passworded server (with good uk pings) that runs on a "here's the password, play nice or your banned" type setup ?

[TabloMaxos 0]

And you honestly think the majority will use this? I can tell you right now by playing games with this little "feature" that it does you no good 90% of the time, accident or no, your getting punished because you killed them and they don't care why it was or how it was, only that you did so and should be punished.

If you ever play Enemy Territory (ET from now on) most players forgive the TK because TK just happens from various players and from various reasons(eg Grenade,Machine gun fire,Artillery). But there are some "kids" that TK a lot and when that happens the TKeds don't forgive them and they are autokicked. And I don't think ET has a better or growned up community. So in time people may learn to use it in ArmA (if it ever comes to ArmA).

The best solution, for now, is to find a good clan or whatever with a passworded server.

[mattxr 9]

The best way to stop a Tker is make it so if they TK make it lock all there keys for 5 min.. then unlock them again, if they dont want to wait that long they will have to reboot there machine via the button on there case ^^ it will serve them right.

[Dwarden 1125]

please check wishlist, i wrote there solution which "may" works enough to get rid of basic type of TKers and vehicle griefers ...

[robert(uk) 0]

....and I accidentally kill him, therefore it's an accidental TK, so in effect, if I say sorry, I shouldn't be punished for it...

I think in Enemy Territory when you TK some one and say sorry the TKed can "forgive" you.

Hint:Idea for scripters or BIS.

Edit:Code tag error

Unfortunately, this was included in BF2, and guess what? Whilst the guys in my clan woudl forgive me, (they knew me) any outsiders would still punish, even if I said sorry, so that doesn't seem to work...

[JdB 151]

Or just wait a few more months. The TK'ing people that want to beat teammates to the vehicles will have moved on to new pixel-fantasies by that time

[robert(uk) 0]

Or just wait a few more months. The TK'ing people that want to beat teammates to the vehicles will have moved on to new pixel-fantasies by that time

I really, really hope so...

[Killerwatt 0]

Or just wait a few more months. The TK'ing people that want to beat teammates to the vehicles will have moved on to new pixel-fantasies by that time

And then the American release will come along and it will start all over again Not that I am saying Americans are any more likely to be involved in friendly fire incidents.

[sirex 0]

i will.

[Scrub 0]

Quote[/b] ]Killerwatt Posted on Feb. 23 2007,15:16

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And then the American release will come along and it will start all over again    Not that I am saying Americans are any more likely to be involved in friendly fire incidents.  

*oh yes they will*

You totally know my country leans notoriously 'L33t'-ish.  Much to my chagrin

can we parse the channel chat for words like 'nOOb', 'U suck noob', or 'I pwned you noob!!1111!' and boot the nOOb for their nOObish behavior?  That would be r00x0r$!!  Thanks.

Back to the real world.  I agree it will come in floods, and they will either conform, create their own community (yUrG!  ), or move on.  

[OrLoK 20]

hello

well, lots of folk online today...

a good thing?

well one would have thought so, but unfortunatly not.

Lots o tking, lots of "you suxxor noob", complaints that "it's not like bf2" and alot of "my rigs more powerful than yours"

Was like a chat room that happened to have a military sim attached.

Unfortunately happened on all servers i tried.

I DID manage to get one good game, so that's a plus.

Time to go looking for private servers methinks.

rant over (again!

rgds

LoK

[shataan 1]

That is why I co op now.

[USSRsniper 0]

That is why I co op now.

This is why i dont play ArmA at the moment at all, since i saw teamkillers in CTF, and coop!      

[Jack-UK 0]

hehe, this is why OFP was so good... the community was much tighter and imo there were less 'noobs' who are used to playing such other 'military' games (which shall not be named ) and are used to mowing people down with planes...

Lets hope that some of the crap gets filtered out eventually

I'm sure once 1.02+505 players join up the game will start to make the community more complete. Then hopefully we'll get some new 'clans' up and hopefully they will be a bit more regulated :P

[Average Joe 0]

Not much wrong with BF2ers [steriotyping dont start] joining ArmA, they are generating plenty of money for BIS to carry on working on arma upgrading and improving it and while they plague most uncontrolled public servers veteran players of OFP will know better and either join a decent clan with locked servers and many benefits or a highly controlled and established public server which is swift to act on these people.

[robert(uk) 0]

To be honest, I joined several servers last night, and didn't have a problem with n00bs on any of them. It was mostly Coop I was playing, and I had great fun...

[Infam0us 10]

Most British Coop clan servers are good fun to play on. We have a Admin on ours as much as possible to make sure that kind of thing doesn't happen because I agree it is very annoying and has happened to me many times. But if its happening to you perhaps host your own server or move to another one? (Ours preferably )

[Maximus_G 0]

A protection script banning TK'ers is definitely needed to be implemented in missions for most public servers. It's a common thing to see some moron killing mates at a respawn point. And i've seen today a TK "gameplay" in another shameful way. 2 guys grabbed a tank and went through our positions trying to kill every teammate they've seen. They definitely tried to weaken our positions so they could have success playing on the other side. Such a disgrace!

[Rambo-16AAB 0]

Guys, how about setting up a shared ban list. If someone gets banned for TK in say on our server, we share the details so everyone who wants to can ban that TK'er from there server too.

If they learn that here going to get banned from all the big servers by being an arse in one, it may act as a preventative measure. A bit like " pub watch" get barred from one in your town, then your barred from all participating pubs in your town.

[OldGeezer 0]

Guys, how about setting up a shared ban list. If someone  gets banned for TK in say on our server, we share the details so everyone who wants to can ban that TK'er from there server too.

If they learn that here going to get banned from all the big servers by being an arse in one, it may act as a  preventative measure.  A bit like " pub watch"  get barred from one in your town, then your barred from all participating pubs in your town.

Now that is not a good plan. You can't discount that idiots will try hosting too. And it could be some nut makes sport of getting people on the ban list for no reason, or bans anyone who kills him fair and square.

Alot of good players would probably find themselves banned from alot of servers coz some idiot was having a bad-hair day and put them on The List. Banning should be each host's own responsibility. If it can be a simple ingame click of a key and mouse, shouldn't be a problem. There's a big difference between kicking somebody out of your private home and getting him kicked from everyone's home. It's no less self-important to trash someone pubically for behavior you don't approve of than it is for someone to take that behavior to your server. Hopefuly after a few individual bannings even the biggest idiots will get the hint.

[kronzky 5]

Now that is not a good plan. You can't discount that idiots will try hosting too. And it could be some nut makes sport of getting people on the ban list for no reason, or bans anyone who kills him fair and square.

Well, it could work, if the list was hosted/maintained by admins you trust.

There are a few of them around, and if they would put a name on that list, you can be sure that I would accept that, no questions asked.

But if the list would be open to public submission - sure, then it's just asking for abuse.

[Rambo-16AAB 0]

It would be a good plan if the participating servrs werevetted and access to the list resticted to the " approved " servers.

If banning was easy on an Arma server, it would take some of the pressure off,but at the moment you need to look up th players player ID, write it down, close the server, update the banlist, then restart the server. What a load of Tosh for an online game.

BIS appear to be oblivious to the fact that server hosts need decent management tools.

[Icekiller 0]

I followed this thread with interest...

first of all , the methode in ET worked seen from my perspective

perfect ... absolutly... It really really seldom I have not been forgiving for my TK... People nows it a fast game and things happens.... mostly you know if people is TK by purpose. and it very very rare I not forgive people...

for me in this game is not so much the TK ,, it the team play lack which destroy as much as the TK.... ex CTF , some guys just take all the vehicles and just run direct into fire ... now we have no more vehicles

What I really would like was a kind of rating for how many games you have played of AA (grouped in categories) ... most of people who destroy the games are people who just dont like to play AA , and therefore never will have big history of games. I guess the guys destroy it did not buy the game , but playing at netCafe or so. so small history the bigger your chance for getting Banned for TK .

so finally the way in ET I think would be very good and easy solution too.

by the way , I use the build in list of servers(gamespy) , where do you guys get your servers from ?? , in my list is only 2-3 active servers

Best regards

Icekiller

[Icekiller 0]

It would be a good plan if the participating servrs werevetted and access to the list resticted to the " approved " servers.

If banning was easy on an Arma server, it would take some of the pressure off,but at the moment you need to look up th players player ID, write it down, close the server, update the banlist, then restart the server. What a load of Tosh for an online game.

BIS appear to be oblivious to the fact that server hosts need decent management tools.

u sure , Could we not in the old OPF as admin write a text for tempory Bannned , like we did make the votes ??

[Dwarden 1125]

existence of default method (by game) is must

not every mission maker adds such script,

not every admin/server owner knows all the trick (to improve server or edit mission)

well lets hope it gets solved ~ US release