pzvg 0 Posted February 10, 2004 M151's are hard to find? 1200 M151's are still held in depot storage at Lexington Blue Grass Army Depot, probably more are held elsewhere, Just becuase they don't dump them in job lots on the open market doesn't make them scarce. On the NAF, yes I'd say they would be a little less western, maybe give them some more common open market weapons? <CETME,FNC,MiMINI, that sorta thing> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOB 0 Posted February 10, 2004 M151's are hard to find?1200 M151's are still held in depot storage at Lexington Blue Grass Army Depot, probably more are held elsewhere, Just becuase they don't dump them in job lots on the open market doesn't make them scarce. On the NAF, yes I'd say they would be a little less western, maybe give them some more common open market weapons? <CETME,FNC,MiMINI, that sorta thing> Didn't Supah state that they will be using the FN FAL and the FN MAG as primary assault weapon and primary machinegun when they do get them done? I remember reading someting about the M16 being temporary until a new FN FAL model is made... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted February 10, 2004 M151's are hard to find?1200 M151's are still held in depot storage at Lexington Blue Grass Army Depot, probably more are held elsewhere, Just becuase they don't dump them in job lots on the open market doesn't make them scarce. On the NAF, yes I'd say they would be a little less western, maybe give them some more common open market weapons? <CETME,FNC,MiMINI, that sorta thing> Didn't Supah state that they will be using the FN FAL and the FN MAG as primary assault weapon and primary machinegun when they do get them done? I remember reading someting about the M16 being temporary until a new FN FAL model is made... Has been said about a 100 times allready even right beneath the screenshots but i guess people talk before they read the entire thing or just look at the pictures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baca85 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Im sure some of them aint been through the 300+ posts to see whats all been discussed. but got to love the an-2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Major Gripe 0 Posted February 10, 2004 what about this design for the front of the beagle? Â Â (Its off a taiwanese S-2) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baca85 0 Posted February 10, 2004 Nice pic you will need to beg supah to put it in. Im happy what ever the outcome aslong as it looks good but hell knowing supah it will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted February 11, 2004 what about this design for the front of the beagle? Â Â [im]http://www.panasia.net/photo/taiwan/military/images/taiwan271.jpg[/img] (Its off a taiwanese S-2) The camo was borrowed from the taiwanese. It might be hard to adopt the shark teeth as the Beagle has a glass nose for the bombardeer. I will have a look wether we can do that and get it to look nice, no promisses though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pzvg 0 Posted February 11, 2004 Sorry if I ruffled yer feathers Supah, (I have read the M16's are standins, comprende jus' fine, was jus' throwing ideas at random, <hint CETME>) modders are too touchy nowadays, too many folks whining at 'em I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wick_105 0 Posted February 11, 2004 any ideas on artillery yet....love the troops great thing they will be using fn fals and gpmgs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted February 11, 2004 any ideas on artillery yet....love the troops great thing they will be using fn fals and gpmgs We are using M101A1's Howitsers for that Prime mover will be p3vs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m21man 0 Posted February 11, 2004 Are you thinking of making some light/medium anti-tank guns? They're perfect for giving some punch to a small military. Maybe something like a T-12 . Edit (Some info about the T-12): Quote[/b] ]The T-12 is a 100-mm smoothbore antitank gun mounted on a two-wheeled, split-trail carriage, with a single caster wheel near the trail ends. The long (8,484-mm) gun tube has a cylindrical, multi-perforated muzzle brake which is only fractionally larger in diameter than the thin barrel. The MT-12 variant has a winged shield angled to the rear on both sides and an additional recoil cylinder above the breech on the right. Both versions frequently mount infrared night sighting equipment. The T-12 and MT-12 fire fin-stabilized, non-rotating rounds similar to those of the 115-mm gun of the T-62 tank. Muzzle velocity is 900 meters per second for HE and HEAT rounds or 1,500 meters per second for HVAPFSDS rounds. Maximum indirect fire range is 8,200 meters (Frag-HE). The effective direct fire range is approximately 1,000 meters (HEAT) or 2,000 meters (HVAPFSDS). The HEAT round can penetrate about 400 millimeters of armor at any range. The HVAPFSDS round can penetrate about 225 millimeters at 1,000 meters. The theoretical rate of fire is reportedly 14 rounds per minute; however, rate for aimed fire is only 6 rounds per minute, and the maximum practical rate is 10 rounds per minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobby - CSLA team 0 Posted February 13, 2004 Opps, I tried to find any material to make T-12 AT gun about 3 months ago, but not successfully. Then I have found BS-3 100mm AT, so I made this gun for CSLA2. So, it is hard to find schemes or blueprints. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aj_addons 0 Posted February 13, 2004 i think ive got permission to start fixing up the bofors for use lot plus ive also got a nice mig-23 and mig-27 with airbrakes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilentNight 0 Posted February 14, 2004 This just looks really cool, may i say the least/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted February 15, 2004 A alternative paintscheme for the beagle, simple anodized aluminium. Russian IL-28 are almost exclusively seen like this Whadda you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Landwarrior87 0 Posted February 15, 2004 i like that one too... just looks a little plain thats all... maybe some tail markings.. and stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonko the sane 2 Posted February 15, 2004 yeah , i like that a lot, adding some letters and numbers will make all the difference Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MSpencer 0 Posted February 15, 2004 Looks good, but add a Nogova roundel on the tail, the wings, and put some symbols on the engines, as well as something near the cockpit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ozanzac 0 Posted February 15, 2004 Looks good Supah. Would there be any harm in producing both camoschemes, as you could probably use the different schemes to differentiate the payloads. IE the marine version have torpedos for ordnance whilist the non-painted version have general purpose bombs for attacking land targets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted February 15, 2004 Looks good Supah. Would there be any harm in producing both camoschemes, as you could probably use the different schemes to differentiate the payloads. IE the marine version have torpedos for ordnance whilist the non-painted version have general purpose bombs for attacking land targets. Possibly, we are also doing some remodelling which i want done first. The anodised alu version may become the maritime patrol / SAR version The camouflaged one the attack version Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Landwarrior87 0 Posted February 15, 2004 supah im very concerned, what will be the: Main Battle Tank? The Heavy Lift chopper? The Medium Lift chopper? The Main attack Chopper? And what kind of plans do you have for a Nogovan Special Forces, like a name, what kind of weapons they use and stuff they do.. and what theyll look like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Supah 0 Posted February 15, 2004 Main Battle Tank? T-55 Quote[/b] ]The Heavy Lift chopper? Honestly, nogova does not have the cash for that Quote[/b] ]The Medium Lift chopper? UH-1H Quote[/b] ]The Main attack Chopper? There wont be one Quote[/b] ]And what kind of plans do you have for a Nogovan Special Forces, like a name, what kind of weapons they use and stuff they do.. and what theyll look like. We dont have plans for a large special forces branch. Nogova is just to small for that. We will have some slightly more special then normal troops but dont expect M4 SOPMOD's or the like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Landwarrior87 0 Posted February 15, 2004 great.. sounds really good.. ive taken a special liking for this mod after seeing some screens.. im all for the realistic version of Nogova's Army. I hope you will be using RHS's scripts or some of your own that make them burn and have the realistic hitpoints and stuff like that.. and let the soldiers ride on top.. kick ass... i dont mean to bother you guys, but in your free time it would be nice to see more pictures of the soldiers and huey's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uncle_Sam 0 Posted February 15, 2004 Quote[/b] ]The Heavy Lift chopper? Honestly, nogova does not have the cash for that Mmmm but if they had 2 or 4 of them that they have purchased on a garage sale on the Russian Market. Like the Mi-26 HALO Country of Origin Russia  Builder MIL  Date of Introduction 1983  Role Heavy cargo-transport  Similar Aircraft Mi-6 Hook, HH-3E Jolly Green Giant  Blades Main rotor - 8 Tail rotor - 5  Rotor diameter 105 ft (32 m)  Length 111 ft (33.8 m)  Length (rotors turning) 40 meters  Length (fuselage) 33.5 meters  Width 8.2 meters  Height 26 ft., 5 in. / 8.1 meters  Tail Rotor Diameter 7.6 meters  Cargo Compartment Dimensions  12 meters - Floor Length 3.3 meters - Width Height variable from 2.9 to 3.2 meters  Weight 49500 kg - Normal takeoff weight 56000 kg - Maximum takeoff weight 28200 kg - empty weight 20000 kg - Load-lifting capacity (100+ equipped troops, armored vehicles)  Engine 2 x 11,400 shp Lotarev D-136 turbines  Maximum speed 295 km/h  Cruising speed 183 mph / 255 km/h  Range 1200 km with Aux Fuel 800 km with maximum fuel reserve 475-800 km with maximum loading  Service Ceiling 4600 m 1,800 m Hover (out of ground effect) 4,500 m Hover (in ground effect)  Fuel  11,900 liters Internal  Standard Payload 20,000 kg Internal or external load over 80 troops, 60 litters, or 2x BRDM-2 scout cars, or 2x BMDs, or 1x BMP or, 1x BTR-60/70/80 or, 1x MT-LB Armament Usually none  Survivability/Countermeasures Main and tail rotor blades electrically deiced. Infrared signature suppressors on engines. Infrared jammers and decoys; flares. Self-sealing fuel tanks.  AVIONICS The avionics and navigational package, a Doppler weather radar, and a fully functioning autopilot allow for day/night all-weather operation.  Crew 5 (2x pilots, 1x navigator, 1x flight engineer, 1x loadmaster) Cost  User Countries At least 5 countries - India, CIS  Edit Costs : US$10 million to US$12 million 5 til 6 milion wil it cost second hand so mayby its possible Perfect just for Nogova  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ran 0 Posted February 15, 2004 do you have actually any idea of what the operating costs of these monsters are and what would be the use of an heavy-lift chopper like the MI26 for such a small country Nogova ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites