Faklands mod beta sea harrier release

[thirtyg 0]

I've been experimenting with the flight settings per Lee_H._Oswald and Wardog's previous posts.

I have found that setting the landing speed to 10 has worked perfectly for me. After the right amount of practice i have managed to land the harrier VTOL (very very very short STOL for the purests), without using the VTOL control from the menu, usually i can get within about 5 metres of my intended landing spot (just off the edge of one of the helo landing pads).

The way i have acheived this is by bringing the harrier is as if you were going to land normally (from a height of about 50-75m, speed 200-250), lift the nose of the harrier slightly into the air and then hit the 'break key' (s' on my keyboard)(effectively the same way you would land a chopper except you dont need to do anything to get it to the ground). Do this until the speed is around 20 and if your close to the ground (10-20m) hit it again, the harrier will land VTOL and basically stop on the spot (may roll a few metres forward) without causing any damage to the harrier. The trick is to ensure your not too close to the ground while moving at speed (20-20 is usually perfect), this allows the Harrier to vertically 'drop' to the ground while remaining horizontal to the ground.

Using this method i have pritty much managed to recreate how a real harrier lands VTOL (or at least how they land in the videos and photos that i have). Only problem i have with this method is that the air direction nossles face backwards and not down towards the ground! If i can work out how to make a video of me landing in OFP i will do so and post.

I think the VTOL command is very useful for take off but is not needed when landing if you use the above method.

With the 'STOL take off' is it possible to stop the 'turbo boost' at say a speed of 200. Currently you get max speed very quickly and have to manually turn off the STOL. Cutting at a set speed would make it more realistic IMO.

Once again thank you Colonel Klink and the Falklands team for releasing this fantastic Harrier!!

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DKM-jaguar @ 27 April 2003,13:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Our resident scripting genious, Rastavovich, i think had a work-around for that on the OV-10 broncies. If you want, i will talk to him about any possible way to do this on fast jets. I remember something about changing the values on the turning speeds, maximum speeds and the way they handle for each diferent version. i cant remember exact details but it may be that the values for handling characteristics have a bearing on this. let me see...  

oh, and i applolgise to the people who wanted to get on with this topic as it was intended, for the people who went and blew what i was saying out of proportion. DKM is actually looking into the AV-8B so haha haha ha. I might persaud them to do an RAF GR7 instead. Good idea!!<span id='postcolor'>

Why do you have to be spiteful Jaguar?   Now just because people differed in their opinions with you, you will get back at them by convincing DKM not to make an AV-8B?   That's really immature and unprofessional behavior.  I hope that kind of attitude does not reflect your entire mod team's attitude.

By the way, the DKM USMC Bronco is, in my opinion, the funnest aircraft addon ever made.    I sincerely hope that you will not ask them to quit making more great USMC aircraft of that caliber.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[ExtracTioN 0]

Klink m8 in full version with the MOD are you planning to add dust while hovering???

And the Submarine you working is that to the MOD too or separate???

[Landwarrior87 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DKM-jaguar @ 26 April 2003,14:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Very nice! i love it. Its quite hard to fly, which is cool.

just if anyone says "now all we have to do is make it the US version" dont do it. The US version is just a rip of the british one, and seeming as we invented it, the only harrier made should be british IMO.

excellent addon. <span id='postcolor'>

im not asking for them to make a US version.. but im responding to your "We Ripped the UK Version"... man we invented the Ah64... and well you see where im going with this.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Landwarrior87 @ 27 April 2003,18:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DKM-jaguar @ 26 April 2003,14:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Very nice! i love it. Its quite hard to fly, which is cool.

just if anyone says "now all we have to do is make it the US version" dont do it. The US version is just a rip of the british one, and seeming as we invented it, the only harrier made should be british IMO.

excellent addon. <span id='postcolor'>

im not asking for them to make a US version.. but im responding to your "We Ripped the UK Version"... man we invented the Ah64... and well you see where im going with this.<span id='postcolor'>

You are not going anywhere with this. This thread is about the Sea Harrier, released by the Falklands mod for the Falkland Campaign they are making, and that is it. You can also enquire about any future projects of the Falklands Mod team (I am that kind, yes) but NO MORE FLAMING or FLAME BAITING. This is going to stop NOW or PR's/BANS will be handed out.

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ 27 April 2003,18:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Landwarrior87 @ 27 April 2003,18:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DKM-jaguar @ 26 April 2003,14:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Very nice! i love it. Its quite hard to fly, which is cool.

just if anyone says "now all we have to do is make it the US version" dont do it. The US version is just a rip of the british one, and seeming as we invented it, the only harrier made should be british IMO.

excellent addon. <span id='postcolor'>

im not asking for them to make a US version.. but im responding to your "We Ripped the UK Version"... man we invented the Ah64... and well you see where im going with this.<span id='postcolor'>

You are not going anywhere with this. This thread is about the Sea Harrier, released by the Falklands mod for the Falkland Campaign they are making, and that is it. You can also enquire about any future projects of the Falklands Mod team (I am that kind, yes) but NO MORE FLAMING or FLAME BAITING. This is going to stop NOW or PR's/BANS will be handed out.<span id='postcolor'>

Well then if you won't let us even discuss a USMC Harrier on this thread (they after all related topics) then I hope you don't mind if I start a USMC Harrier thread on the "Addons and Mods:Discussion" section of the forum.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Placebo 29]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Miles Teg @ 27 April 2003,17:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I hope you don't mind if I start a USMC Harrier thread on the "Addons and Mods:Discussion" section of the forum.  <span id='postcolor'>

Of course not, that's the point of the AMD forum right?

[chaztheducky 0]

this might of all ready been pointed out but if you open the radar node thingy then run away and look at it, its closed.

[colonel_klink 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chaztheducky @ 27 April 2003,21:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">this might of all ready been pointed out but if you open the radar node thingy then run away and look at it, its closed.<span id='postcolor'>

Trying to keep polycount down on lower lods, but will check if there is a way to overcome this. Cheers

[colonel_klink 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ExtracTioN @ 27 April 2003,16:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Klink m8 in full version with the MOD are you planning to add dust while hovering???

And the Submarine you working is that to the MOD too or separate???<span id='postcolor'>

Dust on the mod harrier = yes

Submarine is my own project, but there will possibly be one with the mod too.

[Ex-RoNiN 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Colonel_Klink @ 28 April 2003,04:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ExtracTioN @ 27 April 2003,16:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Klink m8 in full version with the MOD are you planning to add dust while hovering???

And the Submarine you working is that to the MOD too or separate???<span id='postcolor'>

Dust on the mod harrier = yes

Submarine is my own project, but there will possibly be one with the mod too.<span id='postcolor'>

*has visions of a sinking General Belgrano*

[colonel_klink 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">With the 'STOL take off' is it possible to stop the 'turbo boost' at say a speed of 200. Currently you get max speed very quickly and have to manually turn off the STOL. Cutting at a set speed would make it more realistic IMO.<span id='postcolor'>

Have done that for the next release. Cheers

[Shashman 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ 28 April 2003,11:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Colonel_Klink @ 28 April 2003,04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ExtracTioN @ 27 April 2003,16:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Klink m8 in full version with the MOD are you planning to add dust while hovering???

And the Submarine you working is that to the MOD too or separate???<span id='postcolor'>

Dust on the mod harrier = yes

Submarine is my own project, but there will possibly be one with the mod too.<span id='postcolor'>

<!--emo&  

*has visions of a sinking General Belgrano*  <span id='postcolor'>

Wasn't the Belgrano a battleship?Wasn't it the pride of the Argentinian Navy?

[Eviscerator 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Shashman @ 28 April 2003,14:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ 28 April 2003,11:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Colonel_Klink @ 28 April 2003,04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ExtracTioN @ 27 April 2003,16:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Klink m8 in full version with the MOD are you planning to add dust while hovering???

And the Submarine you working is that to the MOD too or separate???<span id='postcolor'>

Dust on the mod harrier = yes

Submarine is my own project, but there will possibly be one with the mod too.<span id='postcolor'>

<!--emo&  

*has visions of a sinking General Belgrano*  <span id='postcolor'>

Wasn't the Belgrano a battleship?Wasn't it the pride of the Argentinian Navy?<span id='postcolor'>

Sunk by a British Nuclear Submarine...

[MrMilli 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Shashman @ 28 April 2003,13:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Ex-RoNiN @ 28 April 2003,11:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Colonel_Klink @ 28 April 2003,04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ExtracTioN @ 27 April 2003,16:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Klink m8 in full version with the MOD are you planning to add dust while hovering???

And the Submarine you working is that to the MOD too or separate???<span id='postcolor'>

Dust on the mod harrier = yes

Submarine is my own project, but there will possibly be one with the mod too.<span id='postcolor'>

<!--emo&  

*has visions of a sinking General Belgrano*  <span id='postcolor'>

Wasn't the Belgrano a battleship?Wasn't it the pride of the Argentinian Navy?<span id='postcolor'>

cruiser, ex-USS Phoenix from Pearl Harbour

[Shashman 0]

Ah OK...

[-iCeMaN- 0]

We can finally take of and land on dirt roads like in the movies

[KaRRiLLioN 0]

Would this be of any interest to you for VTOL?

http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin....t=30070

It still needs some work, but you can use VTOL with the keyboard instead of actions.

[343rdBadger 0]

hmmmmm...says file does not exist?

[colonel_klink 0]

Thanks buddy. I was looking for those old scripts. I have anew improved VTOL on the harrier that a friend has been helping with. less menu commands, using keys would improve it immensely. Keep in touch as I will be beta testing the improved VTOL soon.

[KaRRiLLioN 0]

Oops, sorry I'd missed a part of that link for the VTOL script. It should be downloadable now.

I found a minor bug in it while playing with it tonight. A var isn't resetting sometimes when a player is killed while using VTOL in turbo mode I think so then VTOL doesn't work right afterward. I'll look at it and fix it up.

Otherwise it worked great in our games tonight. You just press Q and Z (or whatever you use for Crouch and Prone) to thrust up and down, and then E or SHIFT+W (run) to use STOL turbo takeoff. X and C (moveleft, moveright) rotate you.

It's far easier than the VTOL that I've been using. I've been using a modified version of Spitfire's script that I made. I think it's the same one on the harrier now. I just took his script and made it work in MP.

I'm trying to make it so you can use the X-axis (strafe keys) to thrust left and right, but I've got to work on the calculations a bit more to get it to work right.

[-Ash- 0]

Cheers Karrillion.. This will help a lot

[KaRRiLLioN 0]

I just uploaded a new version of VTOL that fixes some issues I had with it, namely vtol not activating again properly after the player dies while using STOL turbo.

[lpdotcom 0]

It is a fantastic adddon and i love it, but could you alter it so that the ejection seat fires at a certain damage level, i mean really low level, but it means you might survive a crash landing.

[blackdog~ 0]

Is there any way to put an ejection seat on any other vehicle (ie a jeep) and/or make it go higher when ejecting?