Faklands mod beta sea harrier release

[lee_h._oswald 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chaztheducky @ April 26 2003,03:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">i have the same problem as oswald....btw...why did you shoot keneddy?<span id='postcolor'>

Self Defense!

He shoot at me first!

MfG Lee

[Mister 5 0]

Quick photo op.!!

[chaztheducky 0]

o the life of a russian officer( or at least the end of it )

@oswald...that damned kennedy..... ......just kidding

[-iCeMaN- 0]

Doesn't the Harrier use an old VTOL/STOL script? My friend used this script on other planes (Hornet, Tornado etc.) to land on LSDs for rearming.

This is still an amazing add-on, I especially like the maneuverability of the aircraft

-iCe-

[CuteQA 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister 5 @ April 26 2003,05:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quick photo op.!!

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this reminds me "True Lies

[thirtyg 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([Ash] @ April 25 2003,20:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The team are proud to announce the beta release of what is possibly the most anticipated unit to ever appear for Operation Flashpoint....<span id='postcolor'>

Most anticipated... not if the OFP engine supported AC130 gunships, but since it doesnt... yes it probably is!

Like a few other i would like to see some RAF versions with rocket pods, flares, and maybe a few bombs after you have finished the Falklands mod.

On the mod thanks for updating the progress report, 2 updates in 2 days, looks like you guys are making some serious progress! Any expected ETA yet?

CBFASI i noticed that you have finished the Seawolf SAM launcher, any chance of getting a beta release of this as well or am i now just being greedy?

[edc 0]

This addon's pretty good, though there may be a efw problems w/ the VTOL stuff, its the first of its kind so its bound to have a few bugs.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Most anticipated... not if the OFP engine supported AC130 gunships<span id='postcolor'>

Never say never, for a long time VTOL, creating new animations, etc were said to be impossible but many of those observations have now been proven wrong.

[Jahve 0]

Try to land it with vtol in rough terrain! I dare you

[colonel_klink 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (smogmorph @ April 25 2003,23:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (smogmorph @ April 25 2003,21:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Not much can stop this, not even a solid mountain wall, I flew right into it and survived.<span id='postcolor'>

No one really did pay attention to what I said.

It's really hard to crash this thing, no matter how hard I try I can't make it crash.<span id='postcolor'>

Ok matey. I'm experimenting with belly landing because the problem with the normal crash landing can occur even at low speeds in ofp aircraft. It can explode if crashed at higher speeds though. The final release may have this feature removed.

*** Undercarriage down at low flying ***

Undercarriage automatically comes down when the aircraft is below a certain height and speed. It is experimental as I put that feature there to compensate the automatic custom gear script on AI and autopilot landing. Its taken ages just to tweak that. If anybody has ideas on how to do it please let me know.

*** Ejection seat still in aircraft after ejecting ***

Good ground crew gets back and fits a new one before you para to the ground.

*** Ride seat after ejecting ***

Dunno if that is realistic..

*** Ejection seat disappears after eject ***

Done by design actually to rid the countryside of discarded eject seats. Why? cos I did it my way

*** Problems with VTOL ***

Welcome to the club.. the scripting is the hardest to work on. But as said in the readme VTOL is still experimental

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Switching to "vtol flightmode", starting like a helicopter(thats what playable to me for an vtol aircraft).

Then switch via action menu to "normal flight" mode.

By selecting "normal flightmode" the real plane or a config or whatever will be loaded and you can fly it as a plane.

Don´t know if OFP allows such switching of configs/models but it would make vtol aircrafts 100% playable.

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Have thought of this and may experiment if the present VTOL cannot be improved.

*** Future Harriers ******

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Like a few other i would like to see some RAF versions with rocket pods, flares, and maybe a few bombs after you have finished the Falklands mod.<span id='postcolor'> THe RAF GRS 3 Harrier is under construction which will be ground support. Also I have a part completed USMC AV8-B Harrier II which may be completed later.

Anyway thanks for the feedback, and thanks for Beta testing it for us.

[silent_64 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KEVBAZ @ April 25 2003,22:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes it is a beta, and all feedback is encouraged and appreciated

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bugs: VERY bad if none breaking, and missing textures... Thats all for now... <span id='postcolor'>

come again? missing textures? where?<span id='postcolor'>

In the cocpit... I'm gone takeing a sreenshot!

[kevbaz 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In the cocpit... I'm gone takeing a sreenshot!<span id='postcolor'>

KEVBAZ points at the readme

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Flashpoint in the Falklands 1982 - OPeration Flashpoint Mod

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* Addon Name:

BAe Sea Harrier FRS.1 - Version 2

Creator and texturer and script tweaking - Colonel Klink

Reference material - RomulusVadt111 and Falklands mod team

VTOL scripts - Spitfire

Other scripts - Various community authors.. Whoever you are.. Speacial Thanks

* Installation:

unzip flkseaharrier.pbo into your Operation Flashpoint Addons folder- DO NOT unzip into Res addons

* Editor location

Found in "FLK ADDONS - Vehicles > BAe Sea Harrier FRS.1"

SFX in this addon

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animated canopy

custom undercarriage

animated drop tanks and reduction in fuel when drop tanks are jettisoned

animated VTOL nozzles and vents

animated ejection seat

VTOL and STOL capablities

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This addon has LIMITED VTOL capabilities. (This is because of the limitations of OFPs engine). Experiment with this.

STOL is selected after engine started. In effect this capability gives a psuedo turbo-boost to take off, and uses a reversal of this for Short Landing

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PUBLIC BETA RELEASE - April 2003

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PLEASE READ CAREFULLY

This release of the BAe Sea Harrier FRS.1 addon for Operation Flashpoint is a Public Beta Release.

This release is as-is. Therefore there may be some unresolved issues that are still being worked at this moment.

Known Issues in this BETA RELEASE

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* Beta release cockpit. New sidepanels and other details will be on the final Falklands Mod release.

* VTOL is experimental and still needs some work.

* drop tank animation doesn't always work as expected.

* The Ejection Seat feature DOES NOT USE THE NORMAL EJECT

Bugs and feedback reporting

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Report any bugs to the Flashpoint in the Falklands Forums at http://www.ofprc.net/falklands/forum/index.php

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HISTORY

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THis project began in May 2002. The first addon (Version 1) was pretty rudimentary and was created in Truspace then converted to 3ds format then imported into Oxygen.

After Resistance was released and animation was possible the model was scrapped and out of the ashes the newer version emerged. Then Spitfire created a vtol script, which I thought would be jumped at by the community, but alas it seemed no one was interested except me. Thus the experimenting began, and is still ongoing.

So 12 months later (nearly) and the addon is still very much experimental.. Version 2.

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*** COPYRIGHT NOTICE ***

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All model geometry and textures contained in this addon are copyright to Robert L Watt (aka Colonel_Klink)

I have no problems if people want to use the scripts in this addon. If the end result is better addons for the community then I am all for that. But I wish that all modisfications to this addons be kept for your personal use and not passed off as your own. If you have any ideas that could further enhance this addon please contact me at vietnambuds@dc3d.tw-gateway.net.

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[silent_64 0]

Okay.. Ups... Well the VSTOL intakes on the side dosn't fit (Black areas) the same problems are at the tailfins..

[Guest DKM-jaguar]

Very nice! i love it. Its quite hard to fly, which is cool.

just if anyone says "now all we have to do is make it the US version" dont do it. The US version is just a rip of the british one, and seeming as we invented it, the only harrier made should be british IMO.

excellent addon.

[Wonder 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (CuteQA @ 26 April 2003,06:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Mister 5 @ April 26 2003,05:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quick photo op.!!

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this reminds me "True Lies <span id='postcolor'>

That russian officer actually would have no trouble, since harriers can't use its weapons while hovering... this is why rather not have VTOL planes in the helicopter class. ...my regards to OfpMan

[Wonder 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([Ash] @ 26 April 2003,02:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Wonder @ April 26 2003,00:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote ([Ash] @ April 25 2003,22:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The Sea Harrier is only used by the UK.. The US AV-8B (Harrier II) on the other hand is already being made by Vit I think....<span id='postcolor'>

...and you take Vit's addons seriously?  <span id='postcolor'>

I would never knock any addon makers work..Good or bad...

Even the most simplistic addon from anyone still makes this (dying) ofp community exist.. Think about it..

Col Klink is a genius (god knows how many times I've told him!, let him be an inspiration to up and coming addon makers....<span id='postcolor'>

I think you're right... every addonmaker is a credit to the ofp community. I didn't mean to offend anyone, but i think Vit has a lot to learn before I'll start downloading his addons again.

[Wonder 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DKM-jaguar @ 26 April 2003,15:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Very nice! i love it. Its quite hard to fly, which is cool.

just if anyone says "now all we have to do is make it the US version" dont do it. The US version is just a rip of the british one, and seeming as we invented it, the only harrier made should be british IMO.

excellent addon. <span id='postcolor'>

That's just like saying "Don't make a Galil! It's just a kalashnikov rip-off!"  

The AV8B cannot be made out of the Sea Harrier just by retexturing. The entire model has to be dramatically reworked, if not made from scratch. However, it might be possible to retexture it into an AV8A harrier, which I think is a direct copy of the Sea Harrier. I don't think the USMC uses it anymore tho.

[Wonder 0]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Koolkid101 @ 26 April 2003,02:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dying??? Also his F-16's where very good.<span id='postcolor'>

err... no

[Jinef 2]

I tried to land on the LSD with vtol, very awkwards as it was moving, but possible in real life.

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DKM-jaguar @ 26 April 2003,14:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Very nice! i love it. Its quite hard to fly, which is cool.

just if anyone says "now all we have to do is make it the US version" dont do it. The US version is just a rip of the british one, and seeming as we invented it, the only harrier made should be british IMO.

excellent addon. <span id='postcolor'>

Why do you have to be a jerk.  In case you haven't noticed most of the missions being made use U.S. equipment and troops.  Also the USMC uses a Harrier so why the hell not make it???  There are tons of missions that can be made where USMC Harrier jets could be used in conjuction with the Operation Code Blue Marines or Suchey's USMC addon.  

If you hate U.S. addons then well that's your own problem but it seems rather ironic that the DKM mod team was so stubborn about insisting that the DKM Commanche addon be a USMC helicopter (even though the Commanche is NOT a USMC helicopter) while you're here insisting that no addon makers convert this Harrier jet into a USMC harrier because America ripped it off.  

Even more ironic is that your team made a fantastic USMC aircarft, the OV-10 Bronco. So I have NO earthly idea why you're so against anyone making a USMC version of the Harrier jet.

That's like saying that the British RIPPED OFF the Chinook, the C130, the Sea King helicopter, the M16,  ect... ect...   In case you haven't heard there's something called "licensing".   Look it up some time.

America and the UK have a long history of sharing and buying each other's military hardware.

The USMC AV-8B is simply a Harrier that is modified for the needs of the USMC.

Also the Harrier jet was a collaboration between American and British companies. The USMC AV-8B Harrier II for example is jointly designed by McDonald Douglas and British Aerospace.

Here is more info on the USMC AV-8B aircraft:

http://www.harrier.org.uk/history/history_production.htm

http://www.geocities.com/mcaschpt/

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Guest DKM-jaguar]

Yeah... you prove my point: There is TOO MUCH US stuff being in every camapign. They aren't the only army, so why does every addon made have to be converted into the US stuff and end up as yet another one on the pile.

BTW: i think it's unfair when the US people say britians army cant be good when it has all that crap equipment then the US go buying our "crap" equipment. I just dont think this special addon needs to be made un-special just becuase i minority of people see fit to americanise everything.

[miles teg 1]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DKM-jaguar @ 26 April 2003,17:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yeah... you prove my point: There is TOO MUCH US stuff being in every camapign. They aren't the only army, so why does every addon made have to be converted into the US stuff and end up as yet another one on the pile.

BTW: i think it's unfair when the US people say britians army cant be good when it has all that crap equipment then the US go buying our "crap" equipment. I just dont think this special addon needs to be made un-special just becuase i minority of people see fit to americanise everything.<span id='postcolor'>

I take it you don't like American stuff in general eh? Sounds like you're bitter about something.

First I edited my last post and added some stuff. Read it and get educated and quit embarassing your MOD team.

Secondly there are TONS of addons for other countries. Please explain to me why most of the missions being made are not being made using all these other addons. In case you haven't noticed the U.S. has been the most active militarily of any of the major world military powers during the past two decades. Myself I am NOT against making British missions. In fact I was just talking to TJ (Jacoby) about making one with the UK-Forces Bibimi Royal Marines and this Harrier jet.

I've also been advocating for a long time that someone makes an RAF version of the G8 Tornado addon (which I think colorchanger is doing now).

Also who said that Britain uses all crap equipment??? I certainly never said that. There's a lot of British equipment that I think kicks ass.

Just because someone makes a USMC version of this addon doesn't mean it will make this addon "un-special" whatever that means.

But this anti-American attitude is rather silly. There is a big demand for a USMC harrier amongst mission makers and that's all there is to it. If the Falklands MOD team doesn't want to make a USMC version then probably someone else will convert it with their permission.

I for one would use both UK and USMC versions of this addon depending on what type of mission I was making.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[Guest DKM-jaguar]

yeah..thats right, you got me down to a tee.

You make some valid points, but i know that as soon as someone makes a harrier that US people download, they will IMMEDIATLY assume the harrier is and always was American. They will assume we borowed the design. They will assume that the US pilots are better then the british pilots [pah, top gun is liek the british RAF recruitment school!]

So, "before i embarrise my MOD " i will be going.

[lee_h._oswald 0]

Hi again.

While getting mad with the vtol function, I took a look at the config of the plane.

First: I´m realy don´t know what I am doing when change somethin in such configs!

But I tried to change and test.

I founde one entry that I changed and it made the Harrier extremly playable to me.

"landingSpeed = 250;"

I changed it to:

"landingSpeed = 1;"

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Now when you are in flight, brake an activate vtol when the nose is getting down.

The harrier is steerable full when speed is over "10".

"10" and lower ("1") the harrier can be turn around but not up and down.

I can land it save where ever I want.

Can please someone from the Falkland Mod test and comment it!

MfG Lee

NOTE: Changes I made are only for personal testings!!!

[munger 25]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (DKM-jaguar @ 26 April 2003,17:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">yeah..thats right, you got me down to a tee.

You make some valid points, but i know that as soon as someone makes a harrier that US people download, they will IMMEDIATLY assume the harrier is and always was American. They will assume we borowed the design. They will assume that the US pilots are better then the british pilots [pah, top gun is liek the british RAF recruitment school!]

So, "before i embarrise my MOD   " i will be going.<span id='postcolor'>

Do you really think that your obvious problem with Americans and their equipment should stop more US addons being created, or are you just being arsey on purpose?

[lee_h._oswald 0]

Ok, here is the bad thing about changing this entry:

On ground you only can steering the plane if you are at speed of "1".

Hmm, I will try set landingspeed to 10.

But vtol works extremly fine for me now.

MfG Lee