TAC-OPS DLC discussion (speculation and hopes)

[cas 41]

Improved AI would be great!

When shot (or exposed to a shock wave like a flash-bang) there should be a high chance that the AI drops the weapon and flees or ducks for cover.

The chance could be influenced by the skill level and the body part hit.

There would be a risk that the AI returns to the fight - especially after being patched up.

 

An unarmed, injured, suppressed and/ or overwhelmed enemy should have a high chance of surrendering.

It should be possible to restrain them.

 

As long as they are not restrained there should be a risk that they flee or pick up a weapon again.

 

Would make a more dynamic gameplay!

 

[D_Donskoy 50]

And again:
1. The civilian population for all islands with traffic, including air traffic.
2. Something like a warfare module (with many options - spawn helicopters, airplanes, artillery support, minefields, etc.)
3. Development and improvement of command modules (commander and subordinate - deploy mortar, demine, mince position, get in, get out of the vehicle, etc.)

[Wiki 1558]

You know it's Tac-Ops aka Tactical Operations?

Means there is no high command nor warfare mode at tactical level.

[five_seven5-7 56]

Tactical Operations is high command, can this work in a SP environment? I don't think so, definitively its for MP.

 

Maybe it is doing to be a overall functions in the squad management, vanilla ACRE / Task Force Radio and some goodies (friend or foe IR, etc).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_operations_center

 

http://www.battlefront.com/products/tacops4/tacops4.html

[jone_kone 158]

On 01/09/2017 at 1:35 PM, five_seven5-7 said:

Tactical Operations is high command, can this work in a SP environment? I don't think so, definitively its for MP.

 

Maybe it is doing to be a overall functions in the squad management, vanilla ACRE / Task Force Radio and some goodies (friend or foe IR, etc).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tactical_operations_center

 

http://www.battlefront.com/products/tacops4/tacops4.html

 

Unfortunately I think no high command dlc etc. although I would wish for one myself.

 

• Arma 3 Tac-Ops (est. Q4 2017*)
  Plan and execute to successfully accomplish your mission objective in a series of 'tactical operations'. The Arma 3 Tac-Ops DLC will deliver new singleplayer scenarios that focus upon challenging, replayable, and authentic military gameplay - making the best use of Arma 3's sandbox terrain, vehicles, and weapons.

 

[AegisWolf 16]

On 11/2/2016 at 5:42 AM, Blafirelli said:

That would be great. Although i would significantly slow down those animation in order to have them realistic...

You could link it to stamina. Out of stamina? Do it really slowly. Got most of your stamina? Fairly quick.

[CANADAVE 14]

On 9/4/2017 at 4:14 PM, jone_kone said:

 

• Arma 3 Tac-Ops (est. Q4 2017*)
  Plan and execute to successfully accomplish your mission objective in a series of 'tactical operations'. The Arma 3 Tac-Ops DLC will deliver new singleplayer scenarios that focus upon challenging, replayable, and authentic military gameplay - making the best use of Arma 3's sandbox terrain, vehicles, and weapons.

 

At least it's still coming.  No coop is a disappointment.  

[Stalkermaster2015 60]

13 hours ago, CANADAVE said:

At least it's still coming.  No coop is a disappointment.  

People had their co op in Apex. This dlc is meant for those that were expecting a singleplayer mode in Apex as I like to pretend we never got one.

 

Besides I'm sure a few people could get them working in Mp. But I prefer them balanced for Sp

[R0adki11 3949]

13 hours ago, CANADAVE said:

At least it's still coming.  No coop is a disappointment.  

I would have preferred some proper Multiplayer i.e. TvT or PvP. However i am glad there is proper single player coming along 

[Wiki 1558]

5 hours ago, R0adki11 said:

i am glad there is proper single player coming along 

 

+1

[M. Glade 524]

 

That extendable mini mirror! How many times I'm around a corner or h-barrier and I don't want to peek my head out because there is some CSAT ai with wallhacks, even just a small reticle in the side of the screen which you can utilize via a inventory item would make mine and alot of other peoples' days a ton easier! 

[pr9inichek 133]

Sorry for my English.

 

Suggestions:

 

1) Underwater vehicle for divers

 

 

 

2) Light Air Vehicle

 

 

 

3) WingSuit

 

 

4) New QuadBike

 

 

 

[medusacadenza 6]

I'd like to see a better navigation mesh for the ai to make urban combat possible as well as improve the game as a whole.

 

[sasha013 225]

• A better radio/team command system.
• Improved AI movement, especially in urban areas for CQBs.
• Lean and peak alla Rainbow 6 Vegas.
• Hand signal animations, especially during stealth mode. 
• Improved weapon customisation - more possibilities for laser and/or tac-flash placement, stocks, scopes, etc. 

[Wiki 1558]

Last sitrep is up and we have more infos about Tac Ops.

 

- 3 missions

- 8 hours of playtime depending of the difficulty setting and the way you play

- replay possibility

- switch the point of view

- no new asset

- no new feature

 

What do you thibk about it?

[yxman 90]

Quote

However, we feel it's important to already make clear that the Tac-Ops Mission Pack does not include new assets or platform features.

 

this is the dealbreaker... wtf no coop, no assets, paying money (even if i see it as a donation for the good support) for 3 sp missions (there are 100+ good sp missions in workshop even with voice acting), but personal i disliked jets dlc, orange dlc and now with the knowledge that tac ops is sp only stuff without anything new, i start to regret buying dlc bundle #2.

[Belbo 462]

2 hours ago, wiki said:

What do you thibk about it?

Completely unessential.

[AveryTheKitty 2626]

2 hours ago, wiki said:

Last sitrep is up and we have more infos about Tac Ops.

 

- 3 missions

- 8 hours of playtime depending of the difficulty setting and the way you play

- replay possibility

- switch the point of view

- no new asset

- no new feature

 

What do you thibk about it?

 

IMO could've been a free update but we'll see what's truly coming. I'm still optimistic.

[jone_kone 158]

3 hours ago, wiki said:

Last sitrep is up and we have more infos about Tac Ops.

 

- 3 missions

- 8 hours of playtime depending of the difficulty setting and the way you play

- replay possibility

- switch the point of view

- no new asset

- no new feature

 

What do you thibk about it?

 

Underwhelmed... :/ Had hoped for at least something asset wise.

 

However, considering Jets, Orange and upcoming Tanks it´s still worth the DLC bundle, which didn´t cost that much as a pre-order. 

 

 

Would be really interesting to know what BI had in mind originally. They called it Tac-Ops DLC to begin with, not "mission pack". Did they actually have some assets planned in the beginning but in the end they didn´t have the resources or time to create any quality ones and decided to just concentrate on SP? Could it be that the Tanks DLC takes more resources than originally planned and having it release on time required scrapping assets for Tac-Ops? If they didn´t have any assets planned even to begin with, then it´s really disappointing.

 

 

[froggyluv 2136]

Pretty disappointing but cant say im surprised. I just honestly dont get why they look to us singleplayers like red headed stepchildren -many of us were the initial base of the game series. I get that the current money trend is MP Player Unknown type stuff but does that always have to come at the expense of SP playing?

 

Tank Guys: Get Tank DLC with features and Content

Plane Guys: Get Plane DLC with features and Content

Helicopters: Same thing

Apex: a Campaign dedicated to MP

 

Tac-OpS: The one I and many ol Swat 4 heads like me have been patiently waiting for....? Yall get no features or content. Look at all the cool items and ideas in this thread - none of it. Im starting to wonder if anyone at BI feels connected to the old OFP series, the Legacy or perhaps they are just a new breed of designer/gamer more lined up with the current trends.

 

Ill await more infop on buying it but am definitely disappointed. The last DLC was impressive which I give the highest marks to so im not giving up completely.

 

Edit: And agree with above on the name -Tac Ops gives the definite impression that it will include Urban fighting, cqb type flashbangin, handcuffin, new stealthy animation moves etc....its misleading to a fault

 

[D_Donskoy 50]

...

No assets.

No warfare system.

No Civilian system.

Classic Arma experience ... ? mmm ... for me classic Arma experience is a warfare mode or CTI mode of the game (the universal mode - I spent not 8 hours, ... 2013 - 2009 and - 2000 ... WOW 13 years of my life!!!)))))))))))))), that was experience!!! Like in SP and MP).

Very sad, my hopes gone. 

[OMAC 254]

Beggars can't be choosers.  I'll take more official SP content any day of the week, and have been asking for it for years, especially after the Apex Protocol debacle.  I already bought the DLC bundle #2, so there's nothing else to do but cross my fingers and be optimistic.

 

Three cheers to BI!!!!   

[Belbo 462]

6 hours ago, OMAC said:

Beggars can't be choosers.

Paying customers can though. ;)

[Strike_NOR 898]

15 hours ago, wiki said:

What do you thibk about it?

 

Well to be completely honest I never really understood what to expect from Tac-Ops. Seeing that I have always been more excited about Jets and Tanks DLC, I have more or less assumed that Tac-Ops is going to bring something new and fun to the game. 

 

My expectations were intense, small-scale cooperative missions that offered a very high level of replayability with features such as:

• Mission types : Assault, Hostage Rescue, Sabotage, Bomb defusal, Counter-Terrorism etc.
• Randomization : Random enemy and own factions/types/tech, random force strength, skill, map & location, time of day etc.
• Planning phase : Let players view the objectives first and known threats, then choose how to execute the mission (stealthy or not).
• Score/rating system : Allow players to view their statistics after mission. Check things such as kills, times incapacitated, time alive, objectives completed etc. Give a score you can try to beat next time.

This and some new feature/equipment is what I was hoping for.

 

However, it seems Tac-Ops is just a "filler" between Orange and Tanks. Sure, I enjoy the ArmA SP experience, and especially after playing Orange DLC campaign. I must hand it to BI that they reached a new milestone with that campaign.

 

Hopefully they will bring everything good from the Orange DLC campaign into the Tac-Ops missions. They claim that the missions will offer replayability and typical ArmA-style sandbox gameplay. Hopefully the missions are really good and probably even raise the bar for official ArmA 3 mission content! As a bonus, I would hope that these missions could be released with multiplayer compatibility, but I expect they would not have underlined SP missions if that was the case.

 

 

 

Either way, I'm enjoying the changes to tanks in Devbranch, but sometimes progress is slow there so it will be good to mess around with Tac-Ops while waiting for tanks!

[Belbo 462]

One of the major problems I have with the announced contents of Tac Ops-DLC is that the announcement of the end of development for Arma 3 preceeded it.

There's only the Tanks DLC after Tac Ops - so the only two things we will EVER receive for Arma 3 are a modification with a very specific radius (tracked vehicles) and a bunch of SP missions.

I don't want to be bitter and say that BI never did anything, the very opposite is true, but that prospect is not just underwhelming, that's like saying: I have only three months left to live - better use it to the fullest and stay home all day and look at the ceiling.