ratszo 17 Posted December 28, 2014 Tonic & company are an inspiration to all arma modders. Vive la Différence! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[evo] dan 79 Posted December 28, 2014 See your arse mate? I think your head is firmly lodged up there. I'm no doctor but I think you might want to remove it pronto. Indeed, BIS hates the community so much they FORCED us to pay $15 for the DLC FEATURES and prevented us from using the DLC content at all in mp without having to buy it. (LOL) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice9 10 Posted December 28, 2014 I'm not against mod, I'm just sad that the mod is so popular that is make a false idea of the game potentiel with so many servers. Like Dayz mod killed all servers. I repeat because you seem to not understand: I'm not against sandbox moddable game, I'm just sad that like in ArmA2, visility of the vanilla servers are down. Maybe the solution will be to create a DLC altis life. PS: I'm ok with the mods. Just a question of visibility of the potentiel of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slatts 1978 Posted December 28, 2014 I'm not against mod, I'm just sad that the mod is so popular that is make a false idea of the game potentiel with so many servers. Like Dayz mod killed all servers. I repeat because you seem to not understand: I'm not against sandbox moddable game, I'm just sad that like in ArmA2, visility of the vanilla servers are down. Maybe the solution will be to create a DLC altis life. PS: I'm ok with the mods. Just a question of visibility of the potentiel of the game. OK that's fair enough. Better filters would help. But still the other things you have been saying previously are misplaced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice9 10 Posted December 28, 2014 (edited) Well, it's not with filters. It just an opinion about this great game and the really low visibility of the potentiel it appears on multi. There are not many games with this type of open world military game. So I hope in the future, other games like this will be created. In my personnal opinion, ArmA is less a military game, it became a potato harvest game. Edited December 28, 2014 by Ice9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slatts 1978 Posted December 28, 2014 Well, it's not with filters. It just an opinion about this great game and the really low visibility of the potentiel it appears on multi. There are not many games with this type of open world military game. So I hope in the future, other games like this will be created. IMO, ArmA is not really a military game, it became a potato harvest game. -removed- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chal00 12 Posted December 28, 2014 It's not Tonic's fault. Bad server browser is the biggest problem. We need better filters. I agree ! This is only the real big problem ! For newbies shearching a real military gameplay, they will be disappointed in the browser at this time ! :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rydygier 1317 Posted December 28, 2014 Maybe the solution will be to create a DLC altis life. The only constructive solution, I could think of is BI hosting multiple own, official servers with guaranteed certain gameplay types provided, that are on the top of server list. Somehow doubtfull, if this will happen. And even if so, no any warranty, there will be players willing to fill such servers (all are busy with potatoes...). From the other hand making own, BI or community, free of charge, high quality Life would have a chance to do one thing: to disappear all those shady "insert a coin" Life servers, but that's another matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R0adki11 3949 Posted December 28, 2014 @ all this is a warning, please keep things civil otherwise face infractions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kremator 1065 Posted December 28, 2014 Now ArmA3 is a EXPERIENCE TRUE CASUAL GAMEPLAY IN A MASSIVE HARVEST SANDBOX.Total servers online: 5704 Total Altis Life: 1375 Total Takistan Life: 125 Total Epoch Mod: 1140 Total Breaking Point: 29 Total King of the Hills: 115 Total Wasteland: 372 MILITARY GAME MODES : Invade & Annex : 105 Domination : 95 Insurgency : 75 Here is the good thing ... you don't HAVE to play them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inlesco 233 Posted December 28, 2014 The only constructive solution, I could think of is BI hosting multiple own, official servers with guaranteed certain gameplay types provided, that are on the top of server list. Somehow doubtfull, if this will happen. And even if so, no any warranty, there will be players willing to fill such servers (all are busy with potatoes...). From the other hand making own, BI or community, free of charge, high quality Life would have a chance to do one thing: to disappear all those shady "insert a coin" Life servers, but that's another matter. A likeable DLC idea you've got there. Even further from military focus, it'd be great to see Altis Life disappear as a side-kick of many people's production, which ends up being a mess of licenses, 3D models and code. Wasteland, Life, KTOH, Battle Royale and other game modes popularity has increased A3's sales by far, I'd assume. That doesn't mean a military focus is gone or impossible to reestablish anymore (if it's gone, in your terms). Keep calm and wait for BIS' checkmate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iamthesux 10 Posted December 28, 2014 When I bought A2, I did so because of its "sandbox" nature. I played it a bit then got bored and put it down (I had no idea about the wonderful community surrounding it). A year later I saw a wasteland video and thought, that looks fun, and I dusted it off to try again. It wasn't until I got bored of wasteland that I started looking around for more game modes and discovered mil-sim. I've been playing with a community for over a year now and have had some of the best gaming experiences of my life here. My point is, maybe all these casual game modes are actually good for the community. Maybe they attract players that otherwise wouldn't ever have even purchased Arma. How many closed groups saw the number of applications swell after DayZ? Arguably only 10-20% of those players are interested in a more serious style of play, but thats still more than enough to fuel several communities. I think the relationship is more symbiotic than parasitic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2nd ranger 282 Posted December 28, 2014 I agree with the OP, I think the game was better before BIS forced us all to play modded game types that we don't want to play. I mean, what is this, Nazi Germany? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vran. 13 Posted December 28, 2014 To me, these statistic show more that the majority of the player base rather plays the 'other' game modes than the traditional military themed ones. :p Is the dedicated, realistic and team-based ArmA co-op experience an endangered species? I don't know, but I do think the franchise would be a good template for some 'more serious life sim'. Here is some interesting A2 Island Life footage: Of course the experience is completely dependant on the players themselves and this holds true to all other game modes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cosmic10r 2331 Posted December 28, 2014 After dark and behind closed doors, I am guessing there are many "Armed Assault's" with potatoes on the life servers ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice9 10 Posted December 28, 2014 "Ban/limit modding?" Nope, just separate the content like in DLC or standalone or a kickstarter, or better filtering tools... I understand modding but what I don't understand is when we arrive at this situation (like many players are living): wow ArmA3 is a great game, I want to play and have fun with multiplayers servers. After paid, the player starts the game and as a newbie , is totally lost because he sees soooooo many patatoes servers. Wow what a beautiful experience... Players like that exist too, don't ignore them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harzach 2517 Posted December 28, 2014 Thank you, Tonic. You have done more for this game and community than most. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slatts 1978 Posted December 28, 2014 Thank you, Tonic. You have done more for this game and community than most. Amen brother. Oh by the way. We had this issue with DayZ and it became standalone. Guess what? There's still Arma 2 even Arma 3 DayZ servers. Making it a DLC won't do anything. Like I said before (and aimed at everyone, not just the OP) if you bitch about the "lack" of good MP servers running military missions. Become the hero of you're kind and set up you're own. Or spend 5 minutes on here looking for a good server/clan to join. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice9 10 Posted December 28, 2014 Well, that's your opinion. I've said mine. Amen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smurf 12 Posted December 28, 2014 We need to update this chart: I will summon this, which summarize it well enough to me, bolding is mine: You can do everything better in Arma (or Tactical Battlefield or A2:PR) but isn't the same thing.The PR community have a different mindset and it shows; You can have a decent game session in pratically any PUBLIC server. the problem is people dont even know what they dont know and arma people are simply clueless when it comes to that in comparion to bf2: pr players... i speak from my personal experience when i tried to adress the lack of teamplay and communication on a3 public servers (if you find one that runs pvp (eventhough they still have absurd money systems)), people where offended or adviced me to join a organized group that uses teamspeak *facepalm* from: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?184194-Squad-%28PR-BF2-Devs%29/page2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AD_clem64121 11 Posted December 28, 2014 This is just me who was worried about the fact that we can just see 75 insurgency serveur and in a other way 1375 Altis Life serveur in arma III ? no just me ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice9 10 Posted December 28, 2014 I think it is normal for the "new" community. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSAndrey 1 Posted December 28, 2014 What's wrong with Wasteland? It combines the intensity of worrying about your gear with Arma's realism and gameplay. Although it is missing any large scale battles... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christian2526 68 Posted December 28, 2014 What is wrong with you? There are alot of ArmA Milsim Communitys and its seems like you have never used to be part in any of them. If you only want to play milsim then do so, dont care about all the life servers, i dont like life aswell, but do i hate them, NO! The point is that they did a really good job on their addon and you can play it if you want, if not dont play it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ice9 10 Posted December 28, 2014 I don't hate them, I find ArmA cool because of modding, but sad that visibility of vanilla servers are so down. Where are the main domination, insurgency, CTI, warfare... Before it took a few minutes to join a random server and have fun by following guys on the field. Now it is a really big deal. And I have a clan so the argument of players like that had to join a clan to play the vanilla experience is not right, when I was on ArmA2, first I liked to join servers randomly and participate to the war mission and you can have really good fun. But who cares about thoses players now? Nobody... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites