Low CPU utilization & Low FPS

[representtx 3]

Just wanted to chime in, i created a separate thread not knowing that this thread describes the issues i am having. As a newer player i thought this was just an issue on my end but maybe it's this bug instead. I will try to figure out how trace it for the developer. thanks

[ineptaphid 6413]

Yes, as the above post said-it may be the server. As you said you are a new player-there are dozens of threads about performance in Arma3, I suggest having a read of some.

 

But for now a god way to test actual performance is to go into the editor and spawn in a single unit. Then start walking around in different parts of the island testing different graphics settings. Arma3 is a very CPU intensive game-but i see you have a very good system. The main thing in graphics settings that will destroy framerate is view distance and object view distance settings.A lot of people try to keep them  at  somewhere around 3000mtrs, and a bit less for object view distance-say about 2000-this will give you a wonderful view distance and optimal performance in most scenarios.

 

Often if you are getting poor performance it is due to a bad server-it may be overpopulated or running a huge amount of performance heavy scripts etc.

 

From what you describe it sounds like the server is the issue. My girlfriend actually has the exact same PC setup as you and she easily runs any singleplayer scenario at 60fps on Ultra settings-so your rig is more than capable :)

 

Do have a look at some of the optimisation threads and guides-there is plenty of tweaking that can be done, or contact me by private message. We really don't need another new thread on this issue :)

[lex__1 422]

What FPS when came on the server, after 10-15 minutes?

[asdfasdfasdfsadfasdf 0]

I had the same problem only with weaker rig. I heard that people have similar problems but I didn't found any answers on the internet, so since I have Windows 10 I used option to reinstall them and after that everything was fine. I don't know if that is the problem for you.

[kridian 33]

The server is (Official) Invade and Annex TOA: Apex Edition (60 player max)

 

Average FPS 20.

 

Every match after about 30 minutes it drops to 2 fps.

 

@representttx, was that server named: [Official] Invade & Annex #01 (NA-US) Tanoa by chance?  Because the same thing happened to me last evening on that server. It bogged down to 2 fps after about 20-30 minutes of play.

 

I am running the Profiling version of ArmA3 now to see if I can help out the devs pinpoint this problem. This thread--> Arma 3 STABLE server 1.62 "performance binary" feedback

[gary66 11]

Yeah i get frame rates drops too, and after about 20 minutes of game play the landscape or screen begins to spasm and jerk the guy i click on to jerks and spasms makes it impossible to aim at all, this is ridiculous, i wont be buying the er new expansion because it seem with every update the game gets worse?

[focher 15]

Yeah i get frame rates drops too, and after about 20 minutes of game play the landscape or screen begins to spasm and jerk the guy i click on to jerks and spasms makes it impossible to aim at all, this is ridiculous, i wont be buying the er new expansion because it seem with every update the game gets worse?

An alternative approach would be to follow Dwarden's steps in the earlier post to 1) install the Profiling version of the executable and 2) submit FRAME captures to BIS so they can track down the cause of the problem and then fix it. They will fix it, but only when they're able to figure out the cause.

[Dwarden 1125]

as seen by this good soul: https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/160288-arma-3-stable-server-162-performance-binary-feedback/page-80?p=3067883#entry3067883

[representtx 3]

@representttx, was that server named: [Official] Invade & Annex #01 (NA-US) Tanoa by chance?  Because the same thing happened to me last evening on that server. It bogged down to 2 fps after about 20-30 minutes of play.

 

I am running the Profiling version of ArmA3 now to see if I can help out the devs pinpoint this problem. This thread--> Arma 3 STABLE server 1.62 "performance binary" feedback

Yes that is EXACTLY the server!

 

I love the missions and community in that server but the 20-30 minutes drop to 2fps is killing the entire experience. Thank you for profiling the issue for the devs, i will do the same this weekend when i have a little spare time. 

[olli_ 13]

Just got my 1080 and thought itd be nice to try out Apex on ultra graphics.

 

Well turns out I get about 20-30 fps on ultra 1440p,

Then I tried turning down the settings to all low, fps went up by like 5-10 so it hovers around 35 now, still nowhere near playable.

 

so what gives?

 

i5-2500K 3.30GHz

16 GB RAM

GTX 1080

 

Also I get about 50-60 fps in editor with everything ultra, which is still lower than ive seen benchmark results.

 

edit: ive also tried these low fps fixes, neither of which did anything

[BL4DE 91]

Is FRAME captures during multiplayer session valid? Or should it be captured in the editor?

[domokun 515]

Just got my 1080 and thought itd be nice to try out Apex on ultra graphics.

 

Well turns out I get about 20-30 fps on ultra 1440p,

Then I tried turning down the settings to all low, fps went up by like 5-10 so it hovers around 35 now, still nowhere near playable.

 

so what gives?

Good performance in Arma requires (in order of importance):

1) Fast CPU (3.5 min, 4.0 better & 4.5 ideally)

2) Preferably Intel

3) Fast RAM

4) SSD 

A powerful GPU helps but hardly compared to the above.

Your setup meets requirement #2 but not #1, nor #3 (you made no mention of #4).

 

Detail

Here are benchmarks that reinforce these claims:

http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/page5.html

https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/156993-arma-3-cpu-vs-ram-performance-comparison-1600-2133-up-to-15-fps-gain/

http://www.hardware.fr/getgraphimg.php?id=222&n=3

 

Conclusion

1. Overclock your 2500k (4.0 easy, 4.2 prolly, 4.4 maybe)

2. Overclock your RAM (+10% maybe +20%?)

So you should gain +20-40%.

If you want really good framerates @ 1440p, you'll need upgrade to an i5-6600K/i7-6700k & overclock her slightly to 4.5 GHz:

https://youtu.be/bZrGImpdxy0?t=9m56s

[KingN 251]

After 1.62 patch I also have problems with lod problems (trees, buildings disappearing and reappearing in distance in a flickering manner) after moments into mission, accompanied by lowered FPS, sometimes down to a crawling slideshow. This also leads to jerky infantry unit animations. Before the latest stable patch the mission was fine. Below are the profiling logs, the affected one with objects flickering and lower FPS, and the normal one running fine. Both from the same mission.

 

log

log_normal

[KingN 251]

To my upper post, linked is a lot worse case, game came to a crawl and lods and animations went haywire.

 

log_worse

[rokeugon 13]

 

After 1.62 patch I also have problems with lod problems (trees, buildings disappearing and reappearing in distance in a flickering manner) after moments into mission, accompanied by lowered FPS, sometimes down to a crawling slideshow. This also leads to jerky infantry unit animations. Before the latest stable patch the mission was fine. Below are the profiling logs, the affected one with objects flickering and lower FPS, and the normal one running fine. Both from the same mission.

 

log

log_normal

 

 

yeah i can semi-agree with this!

 

obviously you get the best FPS while playing SP. but SP or MP it makes no difference you still see the FPS issues either way! since APEX introduced a new LOD system thats supposed to be smooth and render in better i find it actually makes FPS worse!

 

an Altislife Server that ive played on for many months now. after the APEX update ive notice the game has significantly worse FPS. when i alt tab i see the game is barely using any ram! i have given the game in parameters 2048MB's of ram so it can better utlize my ram but instead of the 1.5-2GB that i still have at disposal! instead it still decides to chug along with 500-700MB's of ram!

 

the before and after APEX is very clear that APEX (PERSONALLY) screwed with my FPS entirely! im encountering massive FPS drops and Lockups / freezes and on a wasteland server that ive played on for months i can only play for maybe 30-40 minutes straight before encountering major dips in FPS and it simply becomes unplayable and im unable to defend myself let alone my team. however thats not me saying that i dont get the odd dips in FPS while still playing within those 30 minutes or so!

 

The game simply wont utilize my ram what so ever! and its quite frankly Pissing me off!

 

the noticeable difference in FPS before and after APEX is a huge margin at least for me.

[JuggernautOfWar 1]

I'm getting back into ArmA 3 after a while and my performance in single player is so bad I can't really play. If I pause the game by tapping escape (game scene still visible in background) I get over 60 FPS no matter where I am at ultra settings and below (using graphics presets). I have Vsync disabled and rendering at 100% of 1080p. Once I resume the game I often get 15-20 FPS, or sometimes even lower on occasion. Obviously this is not acceptable nor playable, as aiming and driving become a real headache.

 

I've done some digging on these forums and it appears there are some options I could try typing in to the launcher parameter fields, but I'm at a loss as to what I should do there, or if that would even change anything.

 

Specs are as follows:

Windows 10 Home x64

Core i7-4710MQ @ 2.5 GHz (currently running at 3.5 GHz according to Speccy, no idea how that works)

8 GB DDR3

GTX 970M

1 TB Samsung 850 Pro SSD

 

Before anyone rags on me for having a laptop, I'll just say I need one. A desktop does not work for my situation unfortunately. I have an old outdated gaming desktop built when the GTX 570 was brand new and it gets even worse performance.

[Vasily.B 529]

I'm getting back into ArmA 3 after a while and my performance in single player is so bad I can't really play. If I pause the game by tapping escape (game scene still visible in background) I get over 60 FPS no matter where I am at ultra settings and below (using graphics presets). I have Vsync disabled and rendering at 100% of 1080p. Once I resume the game I often get 15-20 FPS, or sometimes even lower on occasion. Obviously this is not acceptable nor playable, as aiming and driving become a real headache.

 

I've done some digging on these forums and it appears there are some options I could try typing in to the launcher parameter fields, but I'm at a loss as to what I should do there, or if that would even change anything.

 

Specs are as follows:

Windows 10 Home x64

Core i7-4710MQ @ 2.5 GHz (currently running at 3.5 GHz according to Speccy, no idea how that works)

8 GB DDR3

GTX 970M

1 TB Samsung 850 Pro SSD

 

Before anyone rags on me for having a laptop, I'll just say I need one. A desktop does not work for my situation unfortunately. I have an old outdated gaming desktop built when the GTX 570 was brand new and it gets even worse performance.

Your CPU, if is at 2.5Ghz, its too slow to handle arma. Arma runs perfectly on 4.0Ghz or 4.5, till higher Ghz, till better, no matter how cores you have 4,6 or more, most important is Ghz.

[KEBAB ELIMINATOR 0]

I have problems with FPS drop. I have done everything associated with fps increasing (clean-up junk files, set commands for Arma 3, overclock my CPU, put even the lowest graphics, set priority to high) but my FPS on wasteland haven't changed and I still keep getting 30-50 FPS. Once I had 60-80 FPS on a different wasteland server. I have:

 

CPU: Intel i7 4470 (overclocked to 3.9 GHz)

GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 760

RAM: 8GB

OS: 8.1 x64

 

 

If anyone can help I highly appreciate it!

[B.Randall 10]

I have problems with FPS drop. I have done everything associated with fps increasing (clean-up junk files, set commands for Arma 3, overclock my CPU, put even the lowest graphics, set priority to high) but my FPS on wasteland haven't changed and I still keep getting 30-50 FPS. Once I had 60-80 FPS on a different wasteland server. I have:

 

CPU: Intel i7 4470 (overclocked to 3.9 GHz)

GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 760

RAM: 8GB

OS: 8.1 x64

 

 

If anyone can help I highly appreciate it!

 

as mentioned earlier, low FPS in high population multiplayer missions is a mixture of things both server and clientside.

Unfortunately, on the client side, ARMA primarily runs on one core, so your FPS will not increase unless you overclock your CPU even more (which I would not recommend as you already have and any higher may cause temp issues.)

As a player, theres not much you can do for the server FPS being low. You've already done as much as you could have already.

 

If you take note, the high FPS wasteland server you were on either restarted recently, had less players and/or less ai assets, and less scripts. 

[Yoi174 0]

Can someone help me out? I recently built a new pc running with a [email protected], gtx 1070, and 16 GB RAM. As of right now, I can easily max any game out right now, with playable fps. Even arma, I've been playing multiplayer with 60-70 fps maxed. However today I went to try and get on a server, and usually whenever I first log in, my fps is super low for a few seconds, then it shoots up to what it is normally. However today, it stayed at like 5 fps, then I get kicked from the server. This happened on exile servers, and even on multiplayer campaign missions. So idk if its my internet or something weird going on? Please help!!

[Wobbly69 0]

Hi,

 

I just bought a 1080GTX (Asus Strix) and have low FPS with low GPU and CPU usage.  Any ideas?

 

SCREENSHOT.

[nikiforos 450]

Hi,

 

I just bought a 1080GTX (Asus Strix) and have low FPS with low GPU and CPU usage.  Any ideas?

 

SCREENSHOT.

Because GPU is of low importance to Arma 3. Arma depends mainly on your CPU power and since the game is badly optimized you should expect the results you have right now. And BTW hopefully you didn't buy your GPU for Arma only.

[lex__1 422]

game is badly optimized you should expect the results you have right now.

Occupy waiting list according to the list))) We wait three years for decisions.

Who can approach in office of BIS, take waiting list?)))

To whom laziness to go, read this subject https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/160288-arma-3-stable-server-162-performance-binary-feedback/page-80

[Chevy90 0]

Hi guys, the past days i have a lot of Problems playing arma !

 

 

My machine is running well, i have average of 50 fps all the time. But since a week or 2 there is a problem i have look  at the Screenshot   http://imgur.com/a/9K0SO

 

 

 

After this issue appears, the game is not playble, A restart is requried or the fps will stay at 2-5

 

 

 

 

Things ive done !

 

All drivers and things are up to date - no overheating as i have watercooling

 

My specs intel i7 4970k 4,5ghz

Samsung evo 1tb ssd

Samsung m2 512gb

gtx 980ti

16gb of ram

msi mainboard gaming 7

 

 

 

i hope u guys have a solution

[Dwarden 1125]

new profiling build out https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/160288-arma-3-stable-server-162-performance-binary-feedback/page-80?p=3070603#entry3070603

please follow the steps in next post if you want help us ...