iratus 71 Posted March 23, 2012 It's mind-numbing at first but once you crack that bug you feel like an ARMA god. It's somewhat like the testing euphoria that GLaDOS gets in Portal 2! It's not rare for me to enjoy bug hunting. And the feeling gets even better the day when you do something verry complex, start it in the expectation of errors popping up - and it just works! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
celery 8 Posted March 23, 2012 I think the critical point in starting to feel good about scripting is when you progress so much that you are able to help others more than you need help yourself. A few years ago I was doing all the asking here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig_VG 20 Posted March 24, 2012 It's mind-numbing at first but once you crack that bug you feel like an ARMA god. It's somewhat like the testing euphoria that GLaDOS gets in Portal 2! It's not rare for me to enjoy bug hunting. For sure! Once you find out what was wrong, then you rarely have to worry about that issue again, because you know how to watch out for it. And the feeling gets even better the day when you do something verry complex, start it in the expectation of errors popping up - and it just works! It's like a drug. I think the critical point in starting to feel good about scripting is when you progress so much that you are able to help others more than you need help yourself. A few years ago I was doing all the asking here. Exactly. SQF/SQS are my first languages. I remember starting out being clueless. Then slowly progressing. Then I found out how to use forEach and Count and a whole array (hehe) of possibilities opened up to me. And the drug goes on... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Guid 10 Posted March 24, 2012 @Celery, and if peoples know more and can assist to BIS improve game, he must be recruited ;) likes you mate! :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noubernou 77 Posted March 24, 2012 Its really fun when you run into engine limitations and get to yell at Dwarden on Skype all night. Poor Dwarden. :( :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lockjaw-65- 0 Posted March 24, 2012 I think the lighting looks superb, cant wait. I think the critical point in starting to feel good about scripting is when you progress so much that you are able to help others more than you need help yourself. A few years ago I was doing all the asking here. @ celery LOL I remember when your posts were questions instead of answers, and look at you now! :cool: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Guid 10 Posted March 24, 2012 Its really fun when you run into engine limitations and get to yell at Dwarden on Skype all night.Poor Dwarden. :( :P realy :D :D :D :D :D :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redjevel 1 Posted March 24, 2012 Sweet, hope alpha will be shortly E3.. uhh ohh... can't wait to script some missions on Arma 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ohio 1 Posted March 25, 2012 To play the Alpha will be Great! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_antipop 10 Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) I hope everyone understands why BIS is asking the community to help out with an Alpha. There is a significant difference between a fully released commercial product and an alpha, some may have seen the difference in Battlefield 3 Alpha compared to release, obviously ArmA 3 will be on a much larger scale. I understand everyone is keen to get their hands on the game, just remember to keep in the back of your mind that BIS are releasing this so we can all help test the game, not just enjoy it as a commercial product. I'm sure more information will be released sooner to release of Alpha in regards how to document and report bugs, crashes, script errors etc, but that's fundamentally the purpose of an Alpha, to test the game and report anything that isn't smooth or normal. I just thought I should share all this so people don't see the 'alpha' as a demo. It's a testing platform for the community to use to HELP BIS, not to download and use as a demo for the final game. The only piece of information I can share in regards to being apart of Alphas and BETAs of big commercial games in the past is never assume that a bug has already been reported, it doesn't matter if it's listed twice, as long as it's listed. BIS need our help to make the final release of ArmA 3 as smooth and enjoyable as possible, and I hope everyone is on board to help make that happen. I'm sure everyone will enjoy getting their hands on ArmA 3 too :) -Antipop Edited March 26, 2012 by the_antipop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted March 26, 2012 I hope everyone understands why BIS is asking the community to help out with an Alpha. There is a significant difference between a fully released commercial product and an alpha, some may have seen the difference in Battlefield 3 Alpha compared to release, obviously ArmA 3 will be on a much larger scale.I understand everyone is keen to get their hands on the game, just remember to keep in the back of your mind that BIS are releasing this so we can all help test the game, not just enjoy it as a commercial product. I'm sure more information will be released sooner to release of Alpha in regards how to document and report bugs, crashes, script errors etc, but that's fundamentally the purpose of an Alpha, to test the game and report anything that isn't smooth or normal. I just thought I should share all this so people don't see the 'alpha' as a demo. It's a testing platform for the community to use to HELP BIS, not to download and use as a demo for the final game. The only piece of information I can share in regards to being apart of Alphas and BETAs of big commercial games in the past is never assume that a bug has already been reported, it doesn't matter if it's listed twice, as long as it's listed. BIS need our help to make the final release of ArmA 3 as smooth and enjoyable as possible, and I hope everyone is on board to help make that happen. I'm sure everyone will enjoy getting their hands on ArmA 3 too :) -Antipop ^^ all of the above. Regardless, we can expect a whole bunch of "wtf this shit is unplayable!" posts once the alpha is released. Such is the way of things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bee8190 10 Posted March 26, 2012 ^^ all of the above.Regardless, we can expect a whole bunch of "wtf this shit is unplayable!" posts once the alpha is released. Such is the way of things. Dont mean to sound disrespectful but why is it such a big concern of everyone's? I think BIS is well aware that the alpha will get coments like this but as they mentioned its target is to test all hardware issues and eliminate as many bugs as possible for the full release, which i think will pay off even if they get hundreds of those OMG it doesnt work1337 posts. Necessary evil to get everything right. Indeed not everyone is simply capable on reporting bugs the way CTI requires but I do believe the community will do their best to help BIS to get their release the finest yet, greatly overshadowing the OMG fix it reports. I still suck at mission making, scripting you name it, but I should I find some issue, one can always ask for further opinion on this very forums before I submit and if not, well than I've tryied right? :cool: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Guid 10 Posted March 26, 2012 BIS need our help to make the final release of ArmA 3 as smooth and enjoyable as possible, and I hope everyone is on board to help make that happen. I'm sure everyone will enjoy getting their hands on ArmA 3 too Only if BIS begin listen community, because community its MAIN customer for his product... Just looking for A2, how many bugs, issues you see on tracker, and how many features proposed by users and maded AddOns by community, but less amount realised, I hope A3 be more better 10x /facepalm But in nova days we see a Wish list, we are very hoped to see main part of proposes in A3, because Arma is awesome and outstanding Game, times show... Main issues of Arma devs, he dont have a progressive and extravertly creative director :(, or have but very lazyness (point) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gossamersolid 155 Posted March 27, 2012 Can't wait for this community alpha. I'd love to get some good feedback in before the product ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted March 27, 2012 Squeeeeee I won't have a computer good enough for years, but I would still love to see videos of people playing the alpha. Is that possible? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Charles 22 Posted March 27, 2012 SqueeeeeeI won't have a computer good enough for years, but I would still love to see videos of people playing the alpha. Is that possible? That depends if the Alpha comes with an NDA. I'm sure you can watch the attached videos to tickets on the Alpha Tracker, tho ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giorgygr 61 Posted March 27, 2012 Ehhmm.. It would be silly for me to ask about the developer tools wont released close/or with 'Alpha' together eeh?? Yep..it will be (..or no?..) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ric 1 Posted March 28, 2012 were do i sign up for the Alpha? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maio 293 Posted March 28, 2012 were do i sign up for the Alpha? We have no details regarding participation as of now. More to come after E3 2012 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nodunit 397 Posted March 29, 2012 Ehhmm.. It would be silly for me to ask about the developer tools wont released close/or with 'Alpha' together eeh?? Yep..it will be (..or no?..) Highly doubt it, don't forget it's not just another Arma2, it is a new animation system, physX, render to texture implimented, changed shader system and a whole bunch of other commands. They would need to add documentation and have the tools compatible and I doubt they are devoting much if any team power to user tools with the official game not even released. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Guid 10 Posted March 29, 2012 I think BIS kill curve O2 and we can do all stuff in Max ;) :D! Dreams... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giorgygr 61 Posted April 3, 2012 Highly doubt it, don't forget it's not just another Arma2, it is a new animation system, physX, render to texture implimented, changed shader system and a whole bunch of other commands. They would need to add documentation and have the tools compatible and I doubt they are devoting much if any team power to user tools with the official game not even released. Well..i was thinking it would be very nice all this dead-time (until officially ARMA3 'll be released..) the community would have time to familiarize with all (!!) new systems/additions. But..(for the reasons you mentioned) i doubt it :) @J-GUID :p ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistermdg 10 Posted April 3, 2012 oh my god PLEASE, PLEASE CAN I HAVE ONE!! haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dale0404 5 Posted April 4, 2012 It's quite obvious but I think that all active forum members are eagerly waiting the release of this Alpha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites