GepardenK 0 Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) Yeah, I totally refuse to play games in English. And I refuse to read forums in English. I want a russian forum this time!! BIS always go for the "pro US"/"commies are bad" English forums. Its so discriminating Edited May 9, 2009 by GepardenK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commando84 0 Posted May 9, 2009 C'mon why you guys complaining of silly stuff. I mean Bis localizes the game anyways, menu's and subtitles. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris64 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Maybe I'm in the minority but as an English speaker I would really like the factions in the game to speak their native languages, I think they should speak in their native language, and in that text box in the bottom left it could be in the localized language. Just thinking it would add an extra layer of immersion. Would it be hard to mod that in? Would it just require a change of the sound files from someone who has the Russian/Czech version of the game? There was a mod that did it for Stalker quite if i remember right, someone replaced all the voices with the ones from the Ukrainian (or Russian? Can't remember) version, and not only did it sound much more realistic, but the voice actors themselves were much better at acting in their native language. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted May 9, 2009 Whos to say their wont be an expansion for Arma II like redhammer... only the future will tell.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GepardenK 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Maybe I'm in the minority but as an English speaker I would really like the factions in the game to speak their native languages, I think they should speak in their native language, and in that text box in the bottom left it could be in the localized language. Just thinking it would add an extra layer of immersion. Would it be hard to mod that in? Would it just require a change of the sound files from someone who has the Russian/Czech version of the game? There was a mod that did it for Stalker quite if i remember right, someone replaced all the voices with the ones from the Ukrainian (or Russian? Can't remember) version, and not only did it sound much more realistic, but the voice actors themselves were much better at acting in their native language. Very good idea. I hope russian speaking soldiers also report (Enemy, rifleman, far) in their native language. Then, as you suggested, it could be translated in the bottom left corner. It would give you a much better feeling of being a russian when you play one. I hated how all sides used the same report speech in OPF and Arma1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Messiah 2 Posted May 9, 2009 I though BIS, in particular the Spanels, had been very clear why their games feature a communist-esque faction as the 'bad' side. The history of the Czech Republic, and the era they grew up in should speak volumes as to why they've taken this route in all three titles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrub 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Very good idea. I hope russian speaking soldiers also report (Enemy, rifleman, far) in their native language. Then, as you suggested, it could be translated in the bottom left corner. It would give you a much better feeling of being a russian when you play one. I hated how all sides used the same report speech in OPF and Arma1 +1 I feel in an international game, especially one that uses the term 'immersion', that the player should be IMMERSED in what they are doing. If that means you're a rifleman in a Russian squad, you hear Russian from your squadmates and leader (as stated above, text translated). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nodunit 397 Posted May 9, 2009 I though BIS, in particular the Spanels, had been very clear why their games feature a communist-esque faction as the 'bad' side. The history of the Czech Republic, and the era they grew up in should speak volumes as to why they've taken this route in all three titles. While their message has been clear not everyone has been listening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1050 Posted May 9, 2009 And I refuse to read forums in English. I want a russian forum this time!! BIS always go for the "pro US"/"commies are bad" English forums. Its so discriminating You're free to leave the same way you came, no one holding you here. Alternatively you can keep up the spamming and we escort you out. Consider yourself warned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoRailgunner 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Keep in mind native speaker dont work for nothing + it need some time to research the correct phrases and to implement the audio (sync to lips, character animations) stuff. ;) Arma2 will have six factions and four possible endings - so its up to the player and his decisions during the campaign. Its imho more interesting and challenging for the whole gameplay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GepardenK 0 Posted May 9, 2009 You're free to leave the same way you came, no one holding you here.Alternatively you can keep up the spamming and we escort you out. Consider yourself warned. Oh I`m sorry, but what I said there was sarcasm. Maybe I wasnt clear enough, but It makes sense if you read the whole thread. I have nothing against using english forums, thats the only kind of forums I use.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparks50 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Sarcasm+Internet=not a good combination :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GepardenK 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Sarcasm+Internet=not a good combination :D Yeah I know, but I thought this one was very obvious. But I can see now that you may need to read the last pages of this topic to understand it fully. I can guarantee the moderators I was not trying to spam/whine about this forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Naturally it would be refreshing to see Red Hammer-style commercial expansion with campaign, this time possibly made by a Russian team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
W0lle 1050 Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) Naturally it would be refreshing to see Red Hammer-style commercial expansion with campaign, this time possibly made by a Russian team. A commercial expansion, for cash you mean? Like Queens Gambit which people called to boycott because of the horrible ArmA release? Where people said they don't throw more money into the Spanels throat and at the same moment cried because they weren't able to use certain addons or missions... This post contains hidden sarcasm, if you find it you get a cookie Edited May 9, 2009 by W0lle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GepardenK 0 Posted May 9, 2009 hmmm I enjoyed QG..... what’s wrong with it, apart from a few bugs? Of course not as good as resistance, but that doesn’t automatically make it bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparks50 0 Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) I have the impression that most people didn't buy QG as a boycott, but because they didn't see the content of it being worth the price. But oh well. I bought it at release and haven't used it much since. Edited May 9, 2009 by sparks50 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blake 0 Posted May 9, 2009 I recall the whining after QG, yes it was indeed bad but in the end the expansion was pretty cheap and contained useful stuff (like quite decent campaign). Anyway RH style would be too much of a throwback so something like the British Army operation would be better suited to the theme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted May 9, 2009 A commercial expansion, for cash you mean? Like Queens Gambit which people called to boycott because of the horrible ArmA release? Where people said they don't throw more money into the Spanels throat and at the same moment cried because they weren't able to use certain addons or missions...This post contains hidden sarcasm, if you find it you get a cookie You spend too much time on the forums. The real world and the internet aren't always the same. I doubt that just because a select few on these forums said that they boycott QG the sales dropped by a significant margin. It's only a select few that couldn't play on the good maps that were bitchin'. I myself didn't get QG simply because I didn't have enough confidence in it after ArmA. With all the patches now, I am however actually playing the ArmA campaign and it isn't horrible. But QG, eh, I'm waiting for ArmA2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Litos 10 Posted May 9, 2009 And I refuse to read forums in English. I want a russian forum this time!! BIS always go for the "pro US"/"commies are bad" English forums. Its so discriminating No I mean... for all games there are usually translated versions for other countries. But americans are so americans they wont be interested in playing a game that isnt on their language. And I meant he cod4 kind of americans. The campaign there is in british and/or american for example, but when you meet up with the russians they speak on english with an accent... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squint 0 Posted May 9, 2009 Only the people from that country would play it. Americans wouldn't get it for some reason. Are you sure? But americans are so americans they wont be interested in playing a game that isnt on their language. Are you really, really sure? Personally, I think you're just making generalizations based upon what sounds like a good reason to you, but hey, maybe you know something I don't. America is the #1 importer of non-localized games in the world, especially from Japan, which uses NTSC and the same voltage as US outlets—and if you think Japan is in the habit of incorporating English translations, you're quite wrong. Besides, wouldn't most people prefer to play games in their own language? If a game is released in more than one language, and you understand one of those languages, wouldn't you get that version of the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STS_SolidSnake 0 Posted May 10, 2009 I'm ok with the fact most games have USA as the heroes and stuff, it's only games and they have the most gadgets, so it gives alot of diversity, alot of equipment to play around with and stuff.. Anyway, someone else will probably come up with a resistance campaign or a opfor campaign, it's not like the game is only about the main campaign, the mission editor allows easy custom made missions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Litos 10 Posted May 10, 2009 Are you sure?Are you really, really sure? Personally, I think you're just making generalizations based upon what sounds like a good reason to you, but hey, maybe you know something I don't. America is the #1 importer of non-localized games in the world, especially from Japan, which uses NTSC and the same voltage as US outlets—and if you think Japan is in the habit of incorporating English translations, you're quite wrong. Besides, wouldn't most people prefer to play games in their own language? If a game is released in more than one language, and you understand one of those languages, wouldn't you get that version of the game? Yes as long as the game has an english version of it, then people from america would buy it. But if it's completely on a foreign language it'll be weird, because you wouldn't get a single bit of what's happening. Even if only the voice overs are on another language, the person might also miss out key details in the story and in the specific situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
celery 8 Posted May 10, 2009 Yes as long as the game has an english version of it, then people from america would buy it.But if it's completely on a foreign language it'll be weird, because you wouldn't get a single bit of what's happening. Even if only the voice overs are on another language, the person might also miss out key details in the story and in the specific situation. Did you miss the part where foreign lines are subtitled? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wipman 1 Posted May 10, 2009 Hi, People often think it’s stupid if they play a Russian campaign and everybody there speaks some sort of English That's like in the movies or TV series, where the aliens also speak a perfect (yankee) english; look how well the klingons speak english... hell, they speak it better than me, or look at those loosers from Stargate... or the people from Galactica... the whole universe speaks english. That's not like malaga, almerÃa or murcia; where 2 of each 10 are able to say something in english. I guess that a russian man talking in english judging by the TV... whouldn't be that rare, always... that he've some short of klingon accent... >>;-) . Let's C ya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites