Different Name

[sluggCDN 0]

What throws english speaking ppl off is the capitalization of the last letter in "ArmA". Who on earth capitalizes the last letter of a word unless its an abbreviation. So it's Armed Assault afterall... But then as ppl said what assault in military sense is unarmed. It's like calling a brand new beverage a "Liquidy Drink".

ArmA does indeed sound like a nickname, little and insignificant, friendly, informal - at least in English. There is hardly anything serious about the name. Pokemon is the next thing that comes to mind . It's most likely what devs would refer to it as in Czech, since for them to pronounce Armed Assault in the middle of a Czech conversation would be a tongue twister - I heard Suma in his interview:).

But face it it's kinda ironic - they called it ArmA and this is how the whole project has unfolded.

[dachevs 1]

Quote[/b] ]Well english isn't my first language but I think an assault can be without weapons.

Haven't you heard of the legal term "assault"? It can be with fists and kicks too. Assault is another word for attack.

I like the name. Arma, in my native, also means "tank" or "chariot".

Armed Assault is cool too.

It's an assault with weapons.

What on earth can you NOT like about that?

I mean, add some b00bs to that and you got perfection.

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Quote[/b] ]Except for unarmed assaults, right? Like if I were to punch you in the face or if you were to kick me in the nuts. Yes, unarmed assault, or just assault to most. How about verbal assault? And let's not forget my personal favourite kind of assault... the one that starts with an 's'.

exactly.

And so the hell what.

Say this in your head right now...

ArmA : Assault, does that sound good. Not to me. Adding in Assault sort of "finishes" the title.

I had no idea what the hell this game was, or what OFP was from god knows when, but I heard about it in a post on Tacticalgamer and looked at the pics. The pics caught me, the realism. I didn't give a rats ass about the name. Seriously, for such a good game, why complain about a name?

It's not even bad.

ArmA : Combat Operations, is neat. Keep it! I didn't know it meant weapon in Latin, thats pretty cool. Even thinking of the game as Armed Assault : Combat Operations sound pretty bad ass. If not that, then think of it as ArmA, and pass the games brilliance on to everyone else. Anyone who didn't stick through all the patches to play, what I believe is the best "military" game out, and has the most potential to script in nearly anything you want, is a moron, and can go play there damn bunnyhoppin' run and gunnin BF2's!!!!!!!!

and damn it, if you assault someone, that doesn't automatically factor in you having a weapon.

Please BI just keep the name.

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Quote[/b] ]I didn't give a rats ass about the name.

If you don’t care about the name, why do you reply to this topic?

Quote[/b] ]it's not even bad.

Many people think it does. As mentioned before, it's not the first post about this issue. I don't remember many games that aroused so many objections to their name. A game name can't be good if so many people think it's bad, even if some do like it (maybe those who do like it are those who "don't give a rat's ass about the name" in the first place, so whatever the name is they are just fine with it…).

Quote[/b] ]and damn it, if you assault someone, that doesn't automatically factor in you having a weapon.

We already been through this. If "Armed assault" does not mention the obviouse when it deals with a military simulator, it's ALMOST the obvious, And that's bad enough.

Quote[/b] ]For your information, the name is "Arma 2", not "Armed Assault". "Arma" stands for "weapon" in Latin (see Wiktionary), and I can hardly imagine better name for a war game. We would like to avoid usual "Something of Something" scheme.

Edge, I couldn't help but notice the game logo on the official arma 2 website-

If the name is Arma, why is the last A capitalized? How do you expect people to understand this is the latin word "Arma" when the game is the sequel to a game named Armed Assault and the last A is capitalized?

[NoRailgunner 0]

-Variable- all of those ARMA letters are written in capitals.

Usually its an marketing decission done by publisher. Till today you don't give any example what you think could be the best. I guess if BIS would change the name you will open up a new thread and moan again about it.... Each to his own.

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-Variable- all of those ARMA letters are written in capitals.  

Usually its an marketing decission done by publisher. Till today you don't give any example what you think could be the best. I guess if BIS would change the name you will open up a new thread and moan again about it.... Each to his own.

You guess wrong. and about theses letters- if you think that there is no relevance to the way it's written to the fact it's the sequel to armed assault, well, you are wrong again.

Suggesting a name is not the topic of this discussion. I guess you could imagine what would have been made out of it if I would have suggest a name of my own... And, to be honest, at the moment it seems like ANY name other than armed assault would be better off.

[paragraphic l 2]

Variable; An logo is open to all artistic choices made by the designer. The logo still is written in all caps, On the forum I don't see it being written as ArmA but as ARMA... only members write it as ArmA instead. EDIT: The name seems to been written on the forum as ArmA aswell (by BIS team I mean)

So it's ARMA: Armed Assault and ARMA: Queens Gambit and ARMA: Combat Operations, it will also be ARMA II

Making the first and last letter bigger is an design choice, which in many cases is a logical one;

Both the first and last letter are A's

It's 'original'

Sticking to the previous game logo OFP was also all written in caps yet have the F bigger than the rest.

And in this case it may have been a bad decision as it lead to much confusion about the name.

Yet I don't really see any good comment about why this is a bad name.

[sputnik monroe 102]

How about just call it VBS Home Edition? That what the Steel Beast guys did.

[sparks50 0]

I think shorting the name(or picking a random latin word, choose whatever explanation that fits you) for the sequel is a step in the right direction. But mostly, I don't care

[sanctuary 19]

Dangerous Union : Massive Battle

I guess if people like to use acronyms something like this could be a problem.

[paragraphic l 2]

But Oh how I LOVE that name! BIS P.L.E.A.S.E. use the above name for the sequel

[kavoven 4]

I'd rather have a new name. Best would be a name refering to the campaign... I don't know why, but in Operation Flashpoint I always draw a connection between the name and the campaign, since the operations marks the whole thing.

So Operation is already given away, what about something like Conflict ... : XXX

Armed Assault 2 is simply boring, even if you put it the BIS way ^^

[sputnik monroe 102]

Please for the love of god, I cannot even believe this debate is still going on. I implore you BIS for the greater good of humanity and for your own personal reputations, please oh god please I beg you, change the name of this game. AmrA II is just bad beyond belief.

It is seriously the stupidest name I've every heard in my life. Can you guys seriously not think of anything better? You guys can't honestly have a heart felt attachment to the name "ArmA" can you? I mean it really is just awful, every time I read the name "ARMA" or "Armed Assault" I just feel sorry for you guys, every time I say "ARMA" aloud rather than reading it I end up feeling ashamed and mentally impaired.

Please, you must change this game's name. If you don't your company may go down in the annuals of gaming history as the developers who unleashed the stupidest title for a game ever on humanity.

You guys are better than this.

[Crystal 0]

"ArmA"/"A.R.M.A." or "Operation: Harvest Red" (like the mission.. in the pic)

[EricM 0]

Honestly guys, millions of people speak latin languages where "ARMA" means something or sounds like something you know :

in spanish and italian it directly means weapon, while in french, it's Arme (weapon too), while in english you have the latin root too in the "Arm" word, and that's only from the top of my head.

(NB : now that I think of it Arma II actually sounds exactly like "Armados" (armed) in Spanish... isn't that funny...)

The argument that no-one speaks latin is weak. First, you just learned a new word, then if Armed Assault was admitedly bad, Arma is ok, be it in capitals or not.

It may be generic but I think it fits the "sandbox" nature of the game and it's certainly less cheesy than titles like "Combat Factor Delta : Operation Storm - Ultimate War on Terror".

And when they finalize the campaign, they call always use the same titling policy by naming it Arma II : Tactical Operation or Arma II : Cheese Factor... or whatever...

[Vultar 0]

I do not agree with this, because Arma 2 is imho one of the best names for a military simulator like this.

I know only one game name that looks better ;p

Ghost Recon.

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Please for the love of god, I cannot even believe this debate is still going on. I implore you BIS for the greater good of humanity and for your own personal reputations, please oh god please I beg you, change the name of this game. AmrA II is just bad beyond belief.

 It is seriously the stupidest name I've every heard in my life. Can you guys seriously not think of anything better? You guys can't honestly have a heart felt attachment to the name "ArmA" can you? I mean it really is just awful, every time I read the name "ARMA" or "Armed Assault" I just feel sorry for you guys, every time I say "ARMA" aloud rather than reading it I end up feeling ashamed and mentally impaired.

 Please, you must change this game's name. If you don't your company may go down in the annuals of gaming history as the developers who unleashed the stupidest title for a game ever on humanity.

 You guys are better than this.

Finally, someone with better English than mine to express the true way I (and many others) feel about this name. If the game will be called ArmA 2 it will always be related to armed assault, no matter the developers intention to whatever Latin word. And Armed Assault is just a very bad name to a serious military simulation, for all the mentioned reasons in this thread.

[EricM 0]

It WILL NOT be named Armed Assault, but Arma ! Why can't some people make it enter their brain ?

The first game was never even called Armed Assault in the USA for instance... And the critics about the first game weren't that bad either - not quite like flashpoint, but not bad.

[lwlooz 0]

Hello there,

now even tho the name is the least I care about , if "Arma 2" isn't cheesy enough and you want to stay with some latin expression ,

why not go with "Casus Belli" , "CB1" being the "spoken" abbreviation for the next title I guess .

That would probably fit every campaign BIS is ever going to make as well. Granted , that name is so obvious that it is probably already taken.

I actually think it would make far more sense if BIS tries to produce a game that improves the prestige of the label , instead of finding a great label that won't make a totally uninspiring game (which Arma2 still could turn out to be) any better

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It WILL NOT be named Armed Assault, but Arma ! Why can't some people make it enter their brain ?

EricM- The word you missed is now in bold letters. I hope you understand now.

Quote[/b] ]"If the game will be called ArmA 2 it will always be related to armed assault, no matter the developers intention to whatever Latin word."

[Perun 0]

I don't understand your favor in short-cuts. Every name of "PC" game must be in form, which could have nice short-cut. I don't understand it. I could tell you why it's called "Arma" ... because in czech its nice short-cut of "Armed Assault", if it sounds bad in english, its bad for you . Its the same like "Opka" means in czech "Operation Flashpoint".

I think it could be named in origin language of BIS which you will not understand, and everythink will be okay ... what about "Ozbrojený útok"

[-Variable- 0]

Personally, I don't mind any initials as long as they don't represent such an embarrassing name such as arma.

[Heatseeker 0]

A great game should have a great name, period.

ArmA is far from a good name, arma means weapon and it sounds as dry in english as it does in any latin language (im portuguese), a game called WeapoN is far from interesting or convincing.

Key words like conflict, simulation, crisis, assault, etc wont work for a main tittle, maybe a movie style name would work better or the name of the story?

The game will have a campaign, the campaign should have a story with events, twists, characters, etc and a story always has a name.

So i'll just ask the BIS designers to come up with a good story with a good name and that should be name of the game .

[dale0404 5]

Ok this might seem a little 'out there' but here goes!

I watched an episode of Doctor Who last night in which the title of the episode was called 'Left Turn'. A pretty crap episode imo but lets not digress

The reason it was called 'Left Turn' is because of some decision that was made in game, whether to turn left at a junction or turn right. (Leave it there please, dont ask me for the plot!

Maybe the game should be called based on something that happens within the main campaign. Or a decision that you make or some other 'thing' that happens within the game.

Or they could just call it based on a Mnemonic. Heres one:

S - Stupid

H - Heli

I - Is

T - Toast

I am sure there are many more!

[EricM 0]

What about Warfare ? Now that it's a very specific feature of Arma... and it's generic enough for a military sandbox simulator.

(though I don't mind Arma II)

[hardrock 1]

What about Warfare ?

Yeah, I actually would like this title.