txalin 2 Posted October 29, 2007 I think this is not the appropiate thread to discuss that things.... please, stay on topic (yeah, im not admin, but i want info from IMWM... ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DieAngel 0 Posted October 29, 2007 it all started ebcause i wished peoples would make objective missions, aka, from both sides and not too "good/evil" type Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naash 0 Posted October 29, 2007 yep, stay tuned on Arma and on the mod there's a bunch of forum to argue on Irak... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmaVidz 0 Posted October 30, 2007 it all started ebcause i wished peoples would make objective missions, aka, from both sides and not too "good/evil" type <span style='color:darkred'>Slightly Offtopic</span> I wished that about the modding community in that I had hoped they would have stayed away from addons or mods that could potentially cause even more racial/religously divided feelings through any groups of people; by the usage or creation of such mods. However, this ideology of mine was fundamentally flawed. As there are already US units in ARMA, there was a fundamentally off-kilter balance of representation for one side that was involved (mainly) in alot of the Jihad videos - that ARMA was used for. The US Soldiers in ARMA had a 'faceless' enemy. And none of the ARMA Jihad movies I've seen show any type of 'objective' combat...and the main brunt of combat is hit and run guerilla tactics, or stand and fight martyrdom. That leaves little room for realistic combat in the traditional 'objective' based sense. And to quote the ARMA Jihad video makers: "It's only a game." They fail to see; or to care about the subject matter they are creating. So now that the Insurgency has a face - I say let's return the favour! <span style='color:darkred'>On Topic</span> These Insurgents are opening up a whole new ground of present-day confrontations. As with all addons, it is up to the user of those addons to use them in the way they see fit. I can think of two hundred ways to use these awesome models just for a middle-eastern feeling; plus when you're trying to pick out an insurgent in a group of 20 civilians - wow - I personally think it gets tense because I want to hit the right target As you can see from the pictures the models and textures have been carefully and constructed and fine tuned for equally awesome representation and great in-game visuals. I am SOO looking forward to release. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hovis 0 Posted October 30, 2007 I think using real enemies doesn't foster real resentment at all. I mean the thing is stuff that's not real, well, that's stuff that's not real and ArmA is not real, it hurts nobody. If I set up an ArmA mission based on war breaking out Iran and the USA it's no more going to affect the world and people's attitudes and opinions than if it was between the Insectoids and the Space Lizards. Edited to add, in a more on topic sense, I think what's lacking also are indigenous friendlies. In any sort of insurrection there will be lots of factions at play, really we should have guerillas of all factions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis 0 Posted October 30, 2007 Why does this always happen on these forums, just comment on the MOD not the WAR. Btw, some of the civilians in the pictures are almost out of place, maybe you have better that I havent seen yet but... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
opteryx 1562 Posted October 30, 2007 Yeah FFS stop derailing threads all the time..... it is extremely provocative On Topic. Will this mod be making any terrains of it's own, or will you rely mostly on whatever pops out of independent "island" makers? I know there's a few Iraqi terrains in the making, but some might not be released.. or even intended for ArmA.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{9thinf}Ghost-IMW-Dev 0 Posted October 30, 2007 The IMW team would love to get our own Island done for the mod but it's last on the list of things to do. We Still need a ton of help too..! We are looking for 3d modelers Texture artists A few island makers Sound and effects animators Anyone that can help will make a huge inpact on how long it takes for this mod to get released Thank you to all the help we have had so far IMW Staff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firefox1 12 Posted November 10, 2007 When this mod will be liberated? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hypno toad 0 Posted November 11, 2007 Any chance you guys could do a content addon, with your marines, iraqi soldiers, and insurgents? That would be pant crapingly cool. By the way, you insurgents look great, I don't know how you could possibly make them better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prydain 1 Posted November 11, 2007 By this I mean the forces should really stack up as follows:Blue: US Military. Iraqi Military/Police. Independent: Mercenaries Local secular militias Criminals Opfor: Imported Islamist insurgents Turkish special forces Iranian special forces Sunni/Shia extremists Ermm... Have you ever been to Eastern Turkey? Or Turkey at all? Do you have any grasp of reality regarding Turkeys stance on Iraq and Cooperation with Coalition forces? The Iranian Special forces would be inaccurate too, yes they have been found to assist insurgents but never directly attack coalition forces, they are not insane and wreckless when the threat of loosing sovereignty to Dubya's ground forces could be the result. "Local secular militias" is just another way of saying "Sunni/Shia extremists". "Criminals" and "Mercenaries" are very general, Criminals in Iraq could include the insurgents and pretty much anyone fireing a weapon. Mercenaries could include anyone who has been employed to work against a force/group whether defending an area or actively attacking the said group/force, that includes the native saying "I gave Sala-al Din a fiver after I dared him to shoot at a yank". If this is an Iraq War mod, where is the coalition? It just looks like ArmA in Fallujah, even Baghdad has other forces than just the US and Iraqis. Good work on the stuff so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianTerror 0 Posted November 11, 2007 Quote[/b] ]The Iranian Special forces would be inaccurate too, yes they have been found to assist insurgents but never directly attack coalition forces Your saying that Iran shouldnt be OPFOR? Look at that boat incident with the British. Turkey shouldnt be on that list but Iran should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Prydain 1 Posted November 11, 2007 Your saying that Iran shouldnt be OPFOR? Look at that boat incident with the British. That was not a state controlled incident, thats why they where let go and not treated as prisoners. Some of the Iranian officers got a slap on the wrist for it too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerry 0 Posted November 11, 2007 I say put the Iran SF in.... to fire directly at, or to aid the ones that are, you are stil an enemy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hypno toad 0 Posted November 11, 2007 I would do it this way. Iraqi soldiers / BLUFOR (they are not very often infiltrated by insurgents) Iraqi Police / Independent (they are often infiltrated by insurgents) Iranian SF / Independent (they are not officially at war with the U.S.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jasono 0 Posted November 11, 2007 I agree, an independent team since they are some what netural. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firefox1 12 Posted November 11, 2007 so much the OFP and Assault Armed has an enrredo of cold war against the Russians, because do not have something more present as the war of the Iraq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NoRailgunner 0 Posted November 11, 2007 Or get more that way: BLUFOR: US & UK, mercenaries OPFOR: clans, warlords, militia, mercenaries Independent: armed people, trained police (sth. like FIA) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmaVidz 0 Posted November 11, 2007 I thought it was: US Forces = Blufor Everyone Else = Opfor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProPilot 0 Posted November 12, 2007 Hey guys, Me thinks theres going to be a new update soon, with some really nice goodies!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewy 1 Posted November 12, 2007 Judging by your sig mate you look like you know what you're talking about - thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{9thinf}Ghost-IMW-Dev 0 Posted November 14, 2007 Okay so here we have a little update for you of our Up armor Hummvees WIP . This is the first version to be shown to the public...Model done by durg textures by swatguy  So enjoy  http://img407.imageshack.us/img407....MG] http://img407.imageshack.us/img407....MG] http://img407.imageshack.us/img407....MG] http://img407.imageshack.us/img407....MG] I would also like to Welcome 3 new members of the IMW team Propilot | Web Design / Texture artist / Tester Raynor  | 3d Modeler / Tester AIF-Kris  |As a mission maker / Tester And the new website should be up thanks to Propilot          IMWmod.com                   IMW mod Staff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewy 1 Posted November 14, 2007 Thanks for the update Sir - Pics look awesome! Stew Share this post Link to post Share on other sites