Sled88 0 Posted June 10, 2007 @ June 10 2007,22:58)]IMHO units like the Special Air Service in Armed Assault can only be done justice when the tools are out and proper gear can be modeled. I'm afraid you're right. Or if someone get the p3ds decoded from arma... Anyway thank very much... I see you're from a SAS-Mod also... If there is a need to cooperate just say a word! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royceybaby 0 Posted June 10, 2007 Just out of curiousty, do the SAS have permission to choose thier own loadout of weapons? AFAIK The SAS get to choose the kit the want, they would not choose the SA80 as it not as dependable as the other rifles they have at their disposal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MontyVCB 0 Posted June 10, 2007 I would say it is, its far more reliable than the colt range of weapons (if you exclude HK's M4 take). And is nor far less sensitive to dust now unlike the american counterparts. Two main reasons they don't use it as a standard weapon would be: 1. Weight 2. Its ability to be customised is not as good as the Colt/Colt Canada weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sled88 0 Posted June 10, 2007 @para-trooper: Of which weapon did you spoke? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted June 10, 2007 @para-trooper: Of which weapon did you spoke? Quote[/b] ]they would not choose the SA80 as it not as dependable as the other rifles they have at their disposal. Quote[/b] ]I would say it is, its far more reliable than the colt range of weapons (if you exclude HK's M4 take). And is nor far less sensitive to dust now unlike the american counterparts. Two main reasons they don't use it as a standard weapon would be:1. Weight 2. Its ability to be customised is not as good as the Colt/Colt Canada weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sled88 0 Posted June 10, 2007 Thx JdB: And what about the L85LMG? If it was that name?! EDIT: Yep.. this one... the upper one.. I remember seeing a SAS-guy wth that.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBâ„¢ 1 Posted June 10, 2007 The only times you would see British Speical forces with the L86A2 Light Support Weapon LSW (or more effectionaltely know as LS trouble-eW) is either when SF are on an overt patrol or mission where they are working aklongside regular forces, they (the UKSF) will wear and use standard issued equipment to blend in. Until about maybe 6 years ago the reserve SAS (21/23) were still issued the L85A2 and L86A2 as standard. They now use the same as 22 SAS which is as per the list I posted earlier for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R0adki11 3949 Posted June 10, 2007 And im sure they will never wear their SAS crest on their uniforms as they dont want the enemy to know that they are SFs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Commando84 0 Posted June 10, 2007 they dont? Man thats a bit boring to not be able to scare off the enemy by showing their sas "Tags" Btw nice units! Would be cool if they could have brittish voice overs too but im not sure if that can be done, it wasnt in ofp at least.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Money 0 Posted June 10, 2007 Good work. Would hate to see this one vanish into the woodwork. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nephilim 0 Posted June 11, 2007 the m16a1 was used during gulf war 1 and earlier i think the modern sas are either issued with a2´s or diemencos (or whatever theyre written like..) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sled88 0 Posted June 11, 2007 I`m just following the page, someone gave me yesterday here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nephilim 0 Posted June 11, 2007 ill post some pics of actual sas blokes once im home edit. various pics of sas. i also have pics of sbs if someones interested gulfwar 1 http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4185/50cal8vdls5.jpg http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/3003/milanlandrover4axsl8.jpg sabre team before B20 mission http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1888/sasbravotwozerocy8.jpg current http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4011/45741471iu7.jpg http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2564/bildsas16xo4.jpg http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7278/bh062ya8.jpg gulfwar 2 http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1540/sas01xf0.jpg http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4095/sas7oq3.jpg http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9015/sas8nz7.jpg http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7296/sas9tx9.jpg these are either sas or sbs. not sure http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1795/bh014ai9.jpg falklands (not sure) http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/3636/bildsas17vx7.jpg note the scavanged gear they use and how simple their loadouts are no "tactical" lipsticks and sh!t cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
l mandrake 9 Posted June 11, 2007 Wow an SAS mod nice work my friend!!! Just two suggestions: 1. AFAIK the SAS only ever wear their sand beret when at barracks in Hereford, it is never worn on operations. 2. I think the key word here is 'scruffiness'. I would love to see SAS units looking dirty, unshaven, and wearing a random mix of their own favourite clothing (as if they have been out in the field for weeks). This 'individuality' and a disregard for the rulebook are what characterises their approach to warfare and makes them so successful. I dont know how much you can do with the available tools but they look a bit 'clean' and 'shiny' at the moment -- still great work though well done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted June 11, 2007 I take it you've worked alongside the SAS then Mandrake5? You sound very knowledgable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UKFMav 0 Posted June 11, 2007 http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4011/45741471iu7.jpghttp://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2564/bildsas16xo4.jpg Ah nice one! Never seen these photos of the SAS before, good to see that they've finally been identified at last! It's always been a source of discussion with my friends over who these are! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny_2LI 0 Posted June 11, 2007 The A2s a good weapon if you know how to look after it, its more weighty than most modern rifles but its fairly easy to maintain. The only proof you need is to look at 16 AA, 3 Commando, and now 12 Mech in Afghan. The A1 was a little more a pain in the arse, required a high level of maintanence but it worked. The LSW is now a DM (Direct Marksman) rifle, a good shot ie sniper badged personnel can score strikes at 800 meters with the Susat fitted, theres rumour that the optics will be upgraded on the weapon system but its unlikely. The first bunch of 'Sharpshooters' are being converted correctly using the LSW this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TMan10K 0 Posted June 11, 2007 This looks really good. I've got a friend down my local who reminisces about his days in the SAS, I'll tell him about this. One thing I love about the SAS is how they can do what they like and not have to ever take orders. Only the 'Boss' is allowed to give recommendations then individuals can do what they like. I heard you have to perform some sacred ritual to get in the SAS involving midgets; hot coals and half a poison-dart frog. On top of that, if you join the SAS as an officer, you're only allowed to carry a sidearm and wear beige dinner jackets. My friend told me they're now using either the XM8 or the OICW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted June 11, 2007 My friend told me they're now using either the XM8 or the OICW. Both development projects were scrapped some time ago, they'd more likely be using the H&K416, C8SFW or FN Scar now, weapons which actually still exist beyond the prototype firing range stage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny_2LI 0 Posted June 11, 2007 Tim, where did you get that info? I heard the same thing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted June 11, 2007 I heard you have to perform some sacred ritual to get in the SAS involving midgets; hot coals and half a poison-dart frog. On top of that, if you join the SAS as an officer, you're only allowed to carry a sidearm and wear beige dinner jackets. Both rituals were scrapped some time ago, they'd more than likely be using rollmat wrestling, a practice which actually exists beyond the imagination of Tim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackScorpion 0 Posted June 11, 2007 I've got a friend down my local who reminisces about his days in the SAS Quote[/b] ]All UK pubs are required by law to have one alcoholic regular who used to be a member of the SAS and was one of the first pair into the Iranian Embassy. http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Little-known_Facts_about_the_SAS And back to business... nice units. Ooooh bad time for... well, anyone else once they get running in my ArmA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pathy 0 Posted June 11, 2007 I think perhaps this better sums up the point that subtle sarcasm has failed to get across. Anyway, best of luck with the units, just take the advice you get in here with a pinch of salt, unless you find an actual SAS member to advise you LOL! All these people saying the SAS use this and that obviously don't know for sure, even people who say they've been SAS are likely lying through thier teeth! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites