dm 9 Posted December 28, 2006 Imho if you buy a new pc, it should have a Dual core at least. Last time I checked, the Pentium D820 was dual core.... Theres a difference between "first gen" Dual cores (the D's) and "second gen" Dual cores (the conroes)... Long story short, Conroe has a new architecture which totally wipes all the other intel (and AMD) chips from the table. An Intel D dual core does NOT equal an Intel Conroe dual core Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
echo1 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Imho if you buy a new pc, it should have a Dual core at least. Last time I checked, the Pentium D820 was dual core.... Theres a difference between "first gen" Dual cores (the D's) and "second gen" Dual cores (the conroes)... Long story short, Conroe has a new architecture which totally wipes all the other intel (and AMD) chips from the table. An Intel D dual core does NOT equal an Intel Conroe dual core I know the differences between the Core 2s and Pentiums, never said otherwise. I was just pointing out that the Pentium D is a dual core, even if its not as good as the Conroe it will still get the job done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyBullets 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Heres a Good article for those out there thinking about a Intell C2D or AMD Chipset. Its a Head to Head match up in real gaming performance. http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article....WFzdA== Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
otester 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Heres a Good article for those out there thinking about a Intell C2D or AMD Chipset. Its a Head to Head match up in real gaming performance.http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article....WFzdA== AMD processors atm still hold the leach in gaming with Intel but suffer with apps. Price is why I'm going Intel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack-UK 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Can i have any suggestions for an AGP GFX card up to £200 for this game? I was thinking an ATI X1950 Pro but i thought i'd ask around to see if there were any better around... Cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
otester 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Can i have any suggestions for an AGP GFX card up to £200 for this game?I was thinking an ATI X1950 Pro but i thought i'd ask around to see if there were any better around... Cheers AGP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frans 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Can i have any suggestions for an AGP GFX card up to £200 for this game?I was thinking an ATI X1950 Pro but i thought i'd ask around to see if there were any better around... Cheers nVidia 7600GT. The 7800GS is faster, but bloody expensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
otester 0 Posted December 29, 2006 This might help you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxqubit 1 Posted December 29, 2006 Can i have any suggestions for an AGP GFX card up to £200 for this game?I was thinking an ATI X1950 Pro but i thought i'd ask around to see if there were any better around... Cheers I bought a AGP XFX 7600GT for 180 Euro. A nice and fast enough card, in good balance with the rest of my mid-range spec'd pc (see the sig) I expect to use this pc at least till 2008 before i consider (and have the cash for) a total upgrade. agp xfx 600gt Ohh, btw, and this was important for me, the card is really silent:) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dm 9 Posted December 29, 2006 Heres a Good article for those out there thinking about a Intell C2D or AMD Chipset. Its a Head to Head match up in real gaming performance.http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article....WFzdA== AMD processors atm still hold the leach in gaming with Intel but suffer with apps. Price is why I'm going Intel. If you actually read that article, you'd see that the Intel chips are creeping ahead and AMD no longer hold their "best at gaming" crown. (Yes the difference is only marginal, but when you consider the price difference, thats when the Conroe's really leap ahead) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
otester 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Heres a Good article for those out there thinking about a Intell C2D or AMD Chipset. Its a Head to Head match up in real gaming performance.http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article....WFzdA== AMD processors atm still hold the leach in gaming with Intel but suffer with apps. Price is why I'm going Intel. If you actually read that article, you'd see that the Intel chips are creeping ahead and AMD no longer hold their "best at gaming" crown. (Yes the difference is only marginal, but when you consider the price difference, thats when the Conroe's really leap ahead) I was basing my comment that they are roughly the same but Intel is cheaper so therefore better. AMD atm is using it's time to make it's Fusion. AMD knows it cannot directly beat Intel but can go around the back since they have ATi and make something new and hopefully better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack-UK 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Can i have any suggestions for an AGP GFX card up to £200 for this game?I was thinking an ATI X1950 Pro but i thought i'd ask around to see if there were any better around... Cheers AGP? Â Yes.. AGP lol ... someone built this PC for me and it turns out hes quite a fool :P And im not going to fork out for a new mobo + possibly CPU/RAM just yet... i'll wait till i upgrade to vista + DX10 and stuff for that. By the way... does VRAM increase FPS? im not sure what exactly the VRAM does... obviously the more the better.. but does it increase FPS or just smoothness or something? The 7600 GT seems to have a lower GPU speed than the X1950 Pro.. so shouldnt the x1950 pro be better than the GT? :S Damit im confused lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
otester 0 Posted December 29, 2006 Can i have any suggestions for an AGP GFX card up to £200 for this game?I was thinking an ATI X1950 Pro but i thought i'd ask around to see if there were any better around... Cheers AGP? Yes.. AGP lol ... someone built this PC for me and it turns out hes quite a fool :P And im not going to fork out for a new mobo + possibly CPU/RAM just yet... i'll wait till i upgrade to vista + DX10 and stuff for that. By the way... does VRAM increase FPS? im not sure what exactly the VRAM does... obviously the more the better.. but does it increase FPS or just smoothness or something? The 7600 GT seems to have a lower GPU speed than the X1950 Pro.. so shouldnt the x1950 pro be better than the GT? :S Damit im confused lol From what I've heard Vista digs out 15% of gaming performance for your 3D taskbar and really is an XP knock off. Is DX10 really worth it? What games use it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack-UK 0 Posted December 29, 2006 I dunno, ive heard good things about DX10 and ive heard it will increase performance for almost all cards.. There was a nice guide by ATI for DX10 somewhere, looked pretty good... And yes, the interface of Vista uses the GFX card ive heard, hopefully it will 'disable' the interface while gaming... Vista also has much better memory management (once you invest in 2GB :| as vista wants 1gb for itself) But anyway, why is the 7600GT/GS 'better' than the x1950 pro when the x1950 has more memory and faster GPU?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
otester 0 Posted December 29, 2006 I dunno, ive heard good things about DX10 and ive heard it will increase performance for almost all cards.. There was a nice guide by ATI for DX10 somewhere, looked pretty good... And yes, the interface of Vista uses the GFX card ive heard, hopefully it will 'disable' the interface while gaming... Vista also has much better memory management (once you invest in 2GB :| as vista wants 1gb for itself)But anyway, why is the 7600GT/GS 'better' than the x1950 pro when the x1950 has more memory and faster GPU?? (Price in pounds, best for price range out of ATi and Nvidia): AGP GeForce 6600 or Radeon X700 ~100 Radeon X850 PRO ~110 GeForce 7600 GT ~120 PCI-E GeForce 7600 GT ~100 GeForce 7900 GS ~140 Radeon X1950 XT ~175 GeForce 8800 GTS ~380 GeForce 8800 GTX ~450 Use this to convert to your currency Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EimaReimaHebitaks 0 Posted January 25, 2007 What do you guys say about this Processor AMD Turion 64 X2 RAM 1 gig Graphs GeForce Go 6150 Cache 1024 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwarden 1124 Posted January 25, 2007 X1950pro is minimum for ArmA from ATIs camp IMHO ... (anything else is pain even it runs) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack-UK 0 Posted January 25, 2007 I disagree, i can run ArmA VERY well with my 512mb X1950 PRO... im running it on max settings (post process on low) 1152*864 resolution on the demo and FPS is 20 or greater... Running sweet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MehMan 0 Posted January 25, 2007 agp xfx 600gtOhh, btw, and this was important for me, the card is really silent:) XFX's aren't silent. I've been through a couple and they are anything but silent. The noise my current 6600GT makes :O. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d3dsh33p 0 Posted January 25, 2007 mine runs great at everything on high Pent D 3.2 dual core BFG 7800 GS 1 gig kingston 1360x768 oh and I love the way my 7800 roars when its running good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CameronMcDonald 146 Posted January 25, 2007 I don't understand why 8800GTX owners whinge so much. I bought one yesterday, an ASUS EN8800GTX, and I set everything to max, 5000m viewdistance and everything runs as sweetly as oil on glass in the north part of Sahrani. Besides, I don't even have a Core II, and my system still kicks ass, must be something to do with my tweaking skill. 3.99GHz P4 w. ASUS Silent Square Pro + Arctic Silver 2GB DDRII 585MHz P5W DH Deluxe EN8800GTX ThermalTake ToughPower 750W PSU Since I have a medium sized case though (ThermalTake Soprano w. window) I had to do some serious case modding to fit the damn card in... involving cutting a nice big hole in my hard drive cage with tin snips, hahahah! I'm currently as happy as a pig in mud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jono_retard 0 Posted January 25, 2007 Running arma maxed out, veiw distance 5000m. See sig for specs. The 8800gtx is kickass, at least thats what i have found. What we need is some smart person to post screenshots of the game when there gpu is runing its best, that way people can see the qualatiy they can expect if they are upgrading. I hope you understand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SWAT_BigBear 0 Posted January 26, 2007 I have all this in route and in my hands within 3-5days. The Asus software includes something called "Asus Live" and may be much better than Fraps. I will be glad to get several  small video samples at 1 point. I will also test running a server thru 1 cpu, while gaming thru the 2nd cpu. My only dilemma will be TRYING NOT to install my Sprocket/Czech version and wait for the US hardcopy. I've yet decided on XPpro or Vista. I do have 1 license remaining for Server 2003 I may use. And no... this is not just for ArmA Quote[/b] ]Thermaltake Armor Extreme Edition VA8004BNS Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer CaseASUS L1N64-SLI WS Dual Socket L (Socket 1207FX) NVIDIA nForce 680a SLI MCP SSI CEB AMD Motherboard 2x AMD Athlon 64 FX-74 Windsor 3.0GHz Socket F (1207 FX) DSDC Architecture Processor Model ADAFX74DIBOX ASUS EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M GEFORCE 8800GTX 768MB DDR3 PCI-Express w/2 DUAL-LINK DVI, HDCP COMPLIANT 2x WD 150GB RAPTOR WD1500ADFD 10000RPM 16MB SATA-150 3.5" ENERMAX EGA1000EWL-DXX GALAXY ATX 12V 1000W (nVIDIA CERTIFIED FOR G80) CORSAIR TWIN2X2048-6400PRO 2GB KIT (1GB x 2) PC26400 800MHZ Matched Pair 5-5-5-12 240-PIN DDR2 DIMM W/Activity Leds & Heat Spreader 2x Sony DVD/RW Currently playing on an AMD 64 +3000, 1.5 ddr@400, FX-5900 and about the only issues is all in video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shataan 1 Posted January 26, 2007 Here is what I got coming on Monday: Athlon 64 X2-5200+  with 2X1mb cache Asus M2 Crosshair m/b BFG 8800 GTX 768 megger Corsair twinX Dual Channel  xms2-6400 DDR kit  2 gigs worth Enermax 850 watt psu SeaGate 250 gb Barrcuda, 16 meg cache  my current system finally bit it, so I figured... it is time.  And I wanna run AA in all its glory. Not to mention.... Crysis. .... if they ever decide to release it. Athlon 64 X2-5200+ easilly o/cs to 2.8 gig btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redface 1 Posted January 26, 2007 too bad I bought a new system in September 2005, at a time when there wasn't a single Dual Core system available. Recommended option for a gaming system was at that moment: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Â and GeForce 7800 GTX (checked it on tweakers.net)! 256Mb videocard and 1 Gb RAM even cost me an expensive upgrade, 512Mb RAM being standard. And already one year later 2 Gb RAM seemed to be a minimum. am I correct that system specs have evolved remarkably fast over the last few months? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites