FFUR - Huge Release !!

[456820 0]

or what about the BMP1 is the BMP and the BMP2 is the BTR but im not really bothered just bring on the packs

[echo1 0]

Is it the standard BMP you're replacing? I'd agree because it balances out better with the M113. Are you still going to leave in the BMP's in the 85 pack, or replace the BMP-1 with a BTR-60/70?

[Tovarish 0]

Let it be BMP!

When I find myself in times of trouble, General Guba comes to me,

speaking words of wisdom, let it be.

And in my hour of darkness He is standing right in front of me,

speaking words of wisdom, BMP.

Let it be, BMP, let it be, BMP.

Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

And when the mechanized troops living in the world agree,

there will be an answer, BMP.

For though they may be dismounted there is still a chance that they will see,

there will be a time for AT-3's.

Let it be, BMP, let it be, BMP.

Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

And when the battle's over, there is still just one APC,

that will ride until tomorrow, BMP.

I wake up to the sound of warfare, General Guba comes to me,

speaking words of wisdom, let it be.

[echo1 0]

Let it be BMP!

When I find myself in times of trouble, General Guba comes to me,

speaking words of wisdom, let it be.

And in my hour of darkness He is standing right in front of me,

speaking words of wisdom, BMP.

Let it be, BMP, let it be, BMP.

Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

And when the mechanized troops living in the world agree,

there will be an answer, BMP.

For though they may be dismounted there is still a chance that they will see,

there will be a time for AT-3's.

Let it be, BMP, let it be, BMP.

Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

And when the battle's over, there is still just one APC,

that will ride until tomorrow, BMP.

I wake up to the sound of warfare, General Guba comes to me,

speaking words of wisdom, let it be.

The thing is, an RPG to a BTR is gona wield the same results as that to a BMP, same with tank shells or 50cal bullet fire. What is needed for warfare in Urban areas is something fast that can carry alot of troops. Thats why the Americans are using Strykers and to a leser extent Gavins instead of Bradleys.

[Journeyman 0]

The thing is, an RPG to a BTR is gona wield the same results as that to a BMP, same with tank shells or 50cal bullet fire. What is needed for warfare in Urban areas is something fast that can carry alot of troops. Thats why the Americans are using Strykers and to a leser extent Gavins instead of Bradleys.

That's fine! But where's YOUR poem to support this theory!!  

[456820 0]

Quote[/b] ]When I find myself in times of trouble, General Guba comes to me,

speaking words of wisdom, let it be.

And in my hour of darkness He is standing right in front of me,

speaking words of wisdom, BMP.

Let it be, BMP, let it be, BMP.

Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

And when the mechanized troops living in the world agree,

there will be an answer, BMP.

For though they may be dismounted there is still a chance that they will see,

there will be a time for AT-3's.

Let it be, BMP, let it be, BMP.

Whisper words of wisdom, let it be.

And when the battle's over, there is still just one APC,

that will ride until tomorrow, BMP.

I wake up to the sound of warfare, General Guba comes to me,

speaking words of wisdom, let it be.

ha ha great stuff there

[echo1 0]

The thing is, an RPG to a BTR is gona wield the same results as that to a BMP, same with tank shells or 50cal bullet fire. What is needed for warfare in Urban areas is something fast that can carry alot of troops. Thats why the Americans are using Strykers and to a leser extent Gavins instead of Bradleys.

That's fine! But where's YOUR poem to support this theory!!

Erm.....

Oh I wish I were an BTR Troop Carrier…

That is what I’d truly like to be… Cuz

If I were a BTR Troop Carrier…

Everyone would be in love with me!

(it was the best I could think of in such short time )

[Tovarish 0]

LMAO - sounds like you want this as a troop carrier:

...anyways umm....yeah, let's not ruin this thread (what have I done?)

[Journeyman 0]

Let's put it all down to the excitement of thunderbirds iminent new FFUR releases -- shall we?!  

[echo1 0]

Let's put it all down to the excitement of thunderbirds iminent new FFUR releases -- shall we?!

I second that...now where we? Oh yeah, Europe Pack!

[456820 0]

this is going to be the best christmas in ages lots of cool suprises are coming out FFUR, WGL retextured islands and so on and i get my new graphics card that means i can finally run DXDLL

I cant wait

[stainer 0]

Thunderbird,

I thought the China/Japan replacement was a great new idea but how about continuing this and creating European replacement to further break the mold of every game being USA orientated?  

UK or Germany as west, keep the Willec stuff as resistance (or maybe France: OFrP's stuff is on resistance side, could make for some interesting games?), possibly keep Russia as East as they were the threat to Europe during the cold war

Did I inspire you with this?    

[Cobra8472 0]

Can someone write up a full list of the music you've used? Theres a nice collection of composers in there.

You should also write this in the credits section, I think i recognize a few Hans Zimmer pieces

[su27 0]

You should get rid of this thing attached to mission notepad:

It is funny for a first few missions, later it is rather annoying when you want to check something on the map and compare it with mission plan.

Almost whole map is covered with something completely useless.

Original notepad leaves you more than half of the map uncovered:

[Drax 0]

It's been brought up (though way back) that it's being removed.

[Thunderbird 0]

Quote[/b] ]It is funny for a first few missions, later it is rather annoying when you want to check something on the map and compare it with mission plan.

It has been removed for the Next release.

Quote[/b] ]Can someone write up a full list of the music you've used?

This list has been carried out 11 months ago, several songs names have been lost since, but if you check out carefully the 20 first pages of this thread you may notice a couple of songs titles.

Quote[/b] ]When I find myself in times of trouble, General Guba

...

speaking words of wisdom, let it be.

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Quote[/b] ]If I were a BTR Troop Carrier…

...

Everyone would be in love with me!

Funny to see how people try to defend their favorite russian vehicle, great poems so far...lol...

Quote[/b] ] say go for it, try it, but at the same time have a backup patch replacing it back with the BMP

All CWC 1985 missions which have bmps will be tested out using the BTR instead of the BMP.

If everything would work perfectly exactly as wanted then we'll go for the BTR.

Quote[/b] ]Is it the standard BMP you're replacing? I'd agree because it balances out better with the M113. Are you still going to leave in the BMP's in the 85 pack, or replace the BMP-1 with a BTR-60/70?

The bmp was more or less one one of the most used vehicles during the afghani war, mainly because of its tough armor which doesn't suffer of 7.62mm impacts.

A few years laters, the BTR-80 became the main transport troop vehicle in chechenya, first because of its regular fast speed in and outside urban areas and secondly, because of its ability to carry a considerable number of soldiers...

we conclude that the BMP will be kept in 1985 packs and it will be replaced by the BTR in 2005 (only if everything would work as

it should).

Quote[/b] ]1. Has that crouch walk/run anim been removed ?

2. Has the recoil been decreased since ive alays thought it was far too much i like FDF's easy to handle but still hard to hit

3. I thought the shilka was being replaced but im not aware of the spetznatz mod being replaced so is it going to be the same BIS one or retextured.

-1 : No, it makes more realism, plus it reminds me several military documentaries...not you?:-) (the mp config won't have'em, though).

-2: The recoil has been updated a bit on the basis of the fact it adds more realism and gives you more chance to escape from enemy's bullets.

-3: Unfortunately Manfred's still experiencing some problems due to his low russian connection and he's still unable to upload the shilka.

In any way, BIS shilka is so far the less uglier vehicle that BIS did.

Best Regards

Thunderbird84

[Journeyman 0]

All CWC 1985 missions which get bmps will be tested out using the BTR instead of the BMP.

If everything would work perfectly exactly as wanted then we'll go for the BTR.

we conclude that the BMP will be kept in 1985 packs and it will be replaced by the BTR in 2005 (only if everything would work as

it should).

Erm? I'm confused!  

Maybee U can write a poem so I can understand better!  

[xawery 0]

Isn't it quite clear? The BMP will be replaced by the BTR in the 2005 pack but not the 1985 one, for reasons of historical accuracy. However, if testing shows that replacing the BMP with the BTR destroys the balance of existing missions, they will stick with the BMP in all packs.

[su27 0]

BTW: It's Specnaz or Spetznaz, not Spetznatz

[Thunderbird 0]

Just noticed a minor problem, the BTR has no commander, and the bmp has one, so replacing the bmp by the btr might cause a lot of problems, especially in missions which start with crews outside of their bmps, finally we'll keep the bmp-2 because of some unfortunate technical problems.

I'm sincerely sorry.

Regards

TB84

[twisted 128]

silly little thing i noticed when browsing the config of 2005 version (wow love it).

anyway i was looking at making the lmg's usable. and i came across the m60 config (which now is for the m249). i noticed it fires the same ammo as the PK. am i misunderstanding or is this an error?

surely the m249 fires the smaller 5.56 round?

hell it sure shouldn't act like a pk.

but, that said it probably was me misunderstaning the config (a little knowledge is dangerous and i have very little knowledge about such things.)

thanks for a great mod.

PS - the LMG's could do with some tuning to make em useful.

[Thunderbird 0]

The previous infantry ammunitions values weren't that realistic, the incoming ones will be, though.

Please check out the previous pages of this thread to get more infos about the expected enhancements.

Regards

Thunderbird84

[Thunderbird 0]

Update:

Special thanks to DPS for sending us an exclusive piece of his stuff (the public .pbo is locked, though).

I applied the 'dynamic reflection effect' on it.

Here's the new Mi-17 (even if it's a Mi-8MTV :-p).

Regards

TB84

[456820 0]

looking great as usualy TB

cant wait for this release its gonna be a good one

[stainer 0]

Nice one TB!

Any chance of some European Crisis pics? Please...?