warkonaut 133 Posted June 21, 2016 New version of Revive system was added to Steam dev-branch. BASIC FEATURES New player interaction based on (new) 'hold action' tech. New 2D and 3D visualization. Extensive control over Revive rules through mission settings and/or config. Backward compatibility. Custom made animations. Engine based unconscious state. 3 different unconscious state triggering models. Enhanced performance - low CPU load and network traffic footprint. LIMITATIONS Unconscious state and Revive works only for players, AI units cannot perform Revive nor they can be incapacitated.FUTURE PLANS Engine based unconscious state triggering. Unit animations improvements, both visual and functional. Unconscious state visualization moved to engine. Hold action tech moved to engine. Unconscious state and Revive functionality extended to all units. Please feel free to give it a try and provide a feedback. Warkonaut 35 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reyhard 2082 Posted June 21, 2016 Looks very nice! Any plans for incorporating drag/carry animations? 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varanon 892 Posted June 21, 2016 Looks very nice! Any plans for incorporating drag/carry animations? Was about to ask that. I remember this from Arma 2, where one of the most exhilarating experiences I had was running across a field under fire, and carrying a wounded soldier back to safety. Put in dragging and carrying, and you've nailed it 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon01 902 Posted June 21, 2016 What I'd love would be a medical system similar to what America's Army 3 had (if BIS wants a post-Apex DLC idea, well, here it is). That said, this is a step in the right direction. Good to know somebody's looking at this. I'm looking forward to seeing it work on AI. And yes, dragging and carrying like in A2 would be a nice addition. Ideally we'd be able to move dead bodies, as well. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Variable 322 Posted June 21, 2016 Sounds great. More welcomed features to support somewhat realistic gameplay: 1. The wounded guy to be able to receive additional damage that may or may not lead to his death. 2. An ability to set the wounded guy as captive so enemy may or may not continue to target him after incapacitation state starts. 3. Different bleedout times depending on the nature of the injury. 4. Be able to drop (not throw, drop) a throwable item during incapacitated state to pop smoke to mark your position for other friendlies, or commit suicide with a frag grenade to take out the enemy around with you. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varanon 892 Posted June 21, 2016 Is there a possibility to hook into this system, i.e. event handlers that are called at specific events, like player incapacitated, player revived etc ? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R3vo 2654 Posted June 21, 2016 Would it be possible to have an optional parameter to spawn some clutter objects like bandages or the defibrilator object etc? Additionally, I believe a maximum of 3 minutes bleedout time won't be enough for some missions. Wouldn't hurt to allow us up to 10 minutes. Other than that I like it. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electricleash 133 Posted June 21, 2016 Looks very nice! Any plans for incorporating drag/carry animations? Definitely would like to see this return, it really added a sense of 'heroism' and bravery, running into the firing line to save a downed comrade. You could link it into a series of steam achievements (if you care for steam achievements...) or a medal system, (I think Kydoimos was working on a while back). A pity it's not usable with AI team-mates. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WolfenswanFA 19 Posted June 21, 2016 In addition to the drag/carry feature I'd like to see an option where incapacitated (but not heavily wounded) characters could occasionally crawl. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graemeshute 218 Posted June 21, 2016 If I understand the post. AI units cannot be revived that are not Human controlled? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moon_chilD 200 Posted June 21, 2016 Really nice step in the right direction. Maybe some mods (like ACE) will work their systems over with that. Looks legit and good. However, dragging and carrying would really enhance the gameplay alot! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiTooN 63 Posted June 21, 2016 Looking very good ! What's the design for critically wounded players inside vehicles ? Please tell me it's not insta-death :( +1 Carrying and dragging is essential 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ti0n3r Posted June 21, 2016 Very nice! BUT +1 for adding ability to carry and drag a wounded team mate, and you should also consider making this work for AI squad members like the old Arma 2 revive did. This would let us mix single player gameplay up quite a bit :wub: 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylania 568 Posted June 21, 2016 Would it be possible to have an optional parameter to spawn some clutter objects like bandages or the defibrilator object etc? Additionally, I believe a maximum of 3 minutes bleedout time won't be enough for some missions. Wouldn't hurt to allow us up to 10 minutes. Other than that I like it. There shouldn't be anything hard coded into this system. Defaults sure, but no hard limits. Let the mission makers decide bleed time and everything else with the system, or else it's just completely redundant and will be replaced by a player system that does allow that sort of thing. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hatchet_AS 201 Posted June 21, 2016 Outstanding! :D Be pro, make sure we have Drag & Carry. And really, it doesn't work with AI? :rolleyes: Every option should be a configurable one. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xjiks 10 Posted June 21, 2016 I can see the first online session begin with : - "hey shoot me to test the new revive system" (shoots in the head) - "well that didn't work !" :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivan keska 45 Posted June 21, 2016 huh.. i wonder how I'll be able to work this onto my wasteland. Will have to be make a test sample and see how well the system works with the respawn system of wasteland. Since always good to move towards default features as oppose to custom, if the default can do the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graemeshute 218 Posted June 21, 2016 Outstanding! :D Be pro, make sure we have Drag & Carry. And really, it doesn't work with AI? :rolleyes: Every option should be a configurable one. I really hope it will be implemented for AI units-at least to revive them. Not all of us want to play Co op always or have suitable human players. An official system would be the cherry on the top. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bux578 65 Posted June 21, 2016 This looks interesting. Looking forward to it. Please, provide us with scripting and config capabilities. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twistking 204 Posted June 21, 2016 hello, this is only indirectly related to revive, but since revice feature seems to finally become a good and decent implementation, have you any plans to refine the "normal" medkit/healing behaviour? at the moment a group of players without medic could incacipate a wounded member, revive him and get him to full health with one medkit, while treating him directly with the medkit would not completely heal him. so the new revive looks very good, but normal medkit-use could use some tuning. for example: everyone could completely heal himself and other untis, but normal units would need longer and need more medkits per wound, while a medic would need less time to heal and would always only use one medkit. also making medkits heavier / use more space, would make the medic stay very important. the special medic-toolkit wouldn't be needed. the medic trait would just be about being way more efficcient with medkits and carrying a backpack full of medkits... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twistking 204 Posted June 21, 2016 but i want to add, that i'm very happy with all the recent changes. this is really becoming the apex of arma :) just hoping that players in vehicles are not insta-killed, but can be taken out, like in arma 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mistyronin 1181 Posted June 21, 2016 Sounds like a nice step in the good direction. :) Drag and carry would definitely be useful. But I really think you should work on allowing AI to use revive and also to be incapacitated. It'd really be a huge step forward in SP. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R3vo 2654 Posted June 21, 2016 There shouldn't be anything hard coded into this system. Defaults sure, but no hard limits. Let the mission makers decide bleed time and everything else with the system, or else it's just completely redundant and will be replaced by a player system that does allow that sort of thing. I wasn't talking about a hard coded limits. I was talking about the Eden attribute slider, which has a range from 30 seconds to 3minutes (Don't quote me on that) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuicideKing 233 Posted June 21, 2016 Great to see this come to Arma! Any plans for incorporating drag/carry animations? Yes please! Will really let this system shine. What I'd love would be a medical system similar to what America's Army 3 had. I never really played America's Army 3, but I used to play 2.8.x. I think it was a good middle ground between what ACE has and the vanilla Arma system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iV - Ghost 50 Posted June 21, 2016 Drag & Carry would be nice! I like the medic-system from the Ace3-Mod. :rolleyes: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
