twisted 128 Posted August 2, 2013 Good call Bis. Take your time and make it epic! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lexx 1390 Posted August 2, 2013 Bleh, I am not playing any multiplayer stuff, so unless there will be more scenarios of whatever kind, it's going to be really shitty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nmdanny 22 Posted August 2, 2013 It's disappointing to hear that the campaign wont be included in the release, though I'd be ok with it if they spend their resources on implementing bipods or TKOH flight model. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HorbeySpector 164 Posted August 2, 2013 No campaign at release? LOL Makes me wonder.. What Ãs finished at release? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoot 0 Posted August 2, 2013 Honestly BIS, I'm with you for a while now but this is just another disappointing news on a heavy list of disappointing facts I witnessed since 2001! I guess I'll cancel my support now finally. I'm f**king tired of it, really! Quality over quantity...LOL...Saftladen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petek 62 Posted August 2, 2013 Got to say I'm disappointed and surprised at no campaign at release. Can't help but wonder how it's going to affect sales on release. Would "new" people to the series buy a game that doesn't have a solid single player element? I don't play online and although I'm happy enough playing in the "sandbox" it's a bit of a blow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danny96 80 Posted August 2, 2013 No problem. Just take your time BIS. The more time you will take, the less bugs there will be. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f27sharps 1 Posted August 2, 2013 Looks like this one:http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum_pic/LAND_Pandur_II_8x8_w_RCWS-30_lg.jpg Yes it's that, the same than in A2 ACR DLC, Green Army seems only equiped with European unit, sound's good ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TSAndrey 1 Posted August 2, 2013 PR-wise it would be smarter to delay the game, but then again the campaign in Arma is not really that important, and it won't be such a problem to wait for it as long as it comes out soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niklas 1 Posted August 2, 2013 I think releasing the game without a campaign is a PR disaster, might aswell just call it an expanded beta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chortles 263 Posted August 2, 2013 I think releasing the game without a campaign is a PR disaster, might aswell just call it an expanded beta.Considering how quiet BI has been throughout this year about the campaign, I can't say that I'm even surprised, much less bothered.... Arma 2's post-release history should have told that that's what a supposed full release actually looks like.On the other hand, pay attention to what DnA said: The only thing I will say now: there will be a campaign for Arma 3 soon after initial release, and it will be FREE for everyone who has the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raven_jj 1 Posted August 2, 2013 For those, who played earlier games, and are fans of the series- no problem, there are a lot of missions created by the community, but for someone new, or someone who isn't an Arma worshiper, it's a game breaker. It's not a "game" if you can't play it out of the box, it's even worse than if it had a ton of bugs. I'd seriously consider moving the release, it would do less harm to the sales and reviews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alwarren 2767 Posted August 2, 2013 On the other hand, pay attention to what DnA said: Well, considering it was part of the advertised package, making it not FREE for everyone would not have been an option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Coulum- 35 Posted August 2, 2013 I personally won't be bothered much by not having a campaign on release (never have finished an arma campaign) but I wonder how this will effect reviews and what not... but I do belive it is better not to release the campaing rather than release a rushed buggy campaign ala ACR. But then again just extending the beta until the campaing is done would be the best would it not - I guess BIS has reasons they can't do that either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniperwolf572 758 Posted August 2, 2013 Well, considering it was part of the advertised package, making it not FREE for everyone would not have been an option. If you have the game, you paid for it, that sentence is just sugarcoating the fact that they will fail to deliver it when it's expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alwarren 2767 Posted August 2, 2013 If you have the game, you paid for it, that sentence is just sugarcoating the fact that they failed to deliver. My point exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lexx 1390 Posted August 2, 2013 Considering how quiet BI has been throughout this year about the campaign, I can't say that I'm even surprised, much less bothered.... Arma 2's post-release history should have told that that's what a supposed full release actually looks like.On the other hand, pay attention to what DnA said: The only thing I will say now: there will be a campaign for Arma 3 soon after initial release, and it will be FREE for everyone who has the game. Yeah, everyone who bought the game will get it free... some day after release. Everything else would be really bad style and unacceptable at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petek 62 Posted August 2, 2013 I do hope we don't have a delay to release even if it is campaign-less. I want nothing but success for BIS - they've been making my "go to games" since 2001. I hope that whatever is released doesn't effect sales and reviews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niklas 1 Posted August 2, 2013 Newcomers and critics won't understand this decision and will judge the game on its current state after release. I personally don't have a problem with the campaign coming late, but i think it is a bad decision regardless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EuroSlave 1 Posted August 2, 2013 To release the 'full' game without a campaign would be a huge mistake imo. This is saddening news. Get it together BIS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varanon 892 Posted August 2, 2013 I can understand where this is coming from, but honestly, I find the fact the campaign is missing hilarious, and honestly, the "I don't mind, community will deliver" reactions are sending the wrong signal yet again. We're again in a situation where everyone is saying "Community will fix it"... features missing ? No problem, community will fix it... Content missing ? No problem, community will fix it... As I said, I can understand why the decision was made, but I'm disappointed. If the game isn't finished, don't declare it finished. This will backfire with reviewers. This will backfire with sales. There ARE people that have no interest in multiplayer. What will they do ? Play through the showcases for the tenth time ? Honestly, BIS, I hope you know what you are doing. Edit: Yes, I saw that we will be able to download the campaign later, for "free".. That doesn't change the fact, though, that the game will come out unfinished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roberthammer 582 Posted August 2, 2013 They could split the campaign /they must have something done/ - like part 1 and part 2 will be added later Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goldenfiver 11 Posted August 2, 2013 Are you kidding me? DELAY the game!, fix more bugs, add more features and deliver it with a solid SP element. At the moment the game is unfinished... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sniperwolf572 758 Posted August 2, 2013 I can understand where this is coming from, but honestly, I find the fact the campaign is missing hilarious, and honestly, the "I don't mind, community will deliver" reactions are sending the wrong signal yet again. We're again in a situation where everyone is saying "Community will fix it"... features missing ? No problem, community will fix it... Content missing ? No problem, community will fix it...As I said, I can understand why the decision was made, but I'm disappointed. If the game isn't finished, don't declare it finished. This will backfire with reviewers. This will backfire with sales. There ARE people that have no interest in multiplayer. What will they do ? Play through the showcases for the tenth time ? Honestly, BIS, I hope you know what you are doing. Edit: Yes, I saw that we will be able to download the campaign later, for "free".. That doesn't change the fact, though, that the game will come out unfinished. This mirrors my opinion on the topic precisely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyl3r99 41 Posted August 2, 2013 sorry but... what kind of game releases core components AFTER final release? - the press is going to have your pants down on this one, sorry... i haven't got a problem with waiting i just hope BI makes it worth our while if that makes sense. its like waiting for BF 4 release and EA saying oh sorry we arnt releasing multiplier on release but don't worry its free to anyone whose got the game. (well obviously!!...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites