echo_2-7 10 Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) After seeing a screenshot of a combat frogman, will we finally swim underwater without dieing? Perhaps there would be some missions where as an EOD diver you have to disarm or detonate sea mines, as well as underwater insertion as a SF Diver. Maybe modders can create real-world frogmen like the Navy Seals. http://www.bistudio.com/images/stories/arma3/screenshots/scr02.jpg Edited May 20, 2011 by Echo_2-7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 20, 2011 will we finally swim underwater without dieing? That, at least, is a question we can answer with a definitive "YES!" at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArmAriffic 10 Posted May 20, 2011 what about breathing??? if you run out of O2 would you be able to die? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chicago 13 Posted May 20, 2011 what about breathing??? if you run out of O2 would you be able to die? Well, it will be ARMA! So, it is possible but it would be hardcore for gameplay :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 20, 2011 what about breathing??? if you run out of O2 would you be able to die? Nothing else would make sense. It wouldn't be too hard to script, so I don't see why they wouldn't implement something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEVINMGXP 20 Posted May 20, 2011 If you go in without scuba gear you will be dying if you're out of air, it would not be realistic if you're not dying anyway. But then again it might be possible that you can not enter diving when you're not wherrying any scuba gear at this point we don't know nothing about the game mechanics regarding this future ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 20, 2011 If you go in without scuba gear you will be dying if you're out of air, it would not be realistic if you're not dying anyway. But then again it might be possible that you can not enter diving when you're not wherrying any scuba gear at this point we don't know nothing about the game mechanics regarding this future ... Implementing a limited natural air supply without scuba gear should be dead easy. Even Minecraft has that. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meek 10 Posted May 20, 2011 Implementing a limited natural air supply without scuba gear should be dead easy. Even Minecraft has that. :D Even Sonic the Hedgehog has that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted May 20, 2011 I'd say destroyers and even carriers would be possible. There's a balance to such things - Carrier Strike Group, what CSG? :D zaWSjxTZFMs There's an epic vid somewhere, showing ArmA 2 frigate action w/ flag cannon vs aircraft, and island bombardment - can't seem to find it. :( These ships don't have to carry ICBMs, or Tomahawks to be in the game, just like the Tunguska doesn't represent the RL version. (Shock!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsb247 0 Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) US Navy Seals use things like this anyway: http://www.rebreather-azimuth.com/rebreather-engl.html rebreathers (almost) never run out of air since the seperate the oxygen from the carbon-dioxide that you exhale, they don't create bubble like scuba gear so they are quieter and MUCH stealthier, and they are a little lighter since they don't have the giant tanks. This would be the solution to all of the above questions, and it is the solution in use by the military in present day! Edited May 20, 2011 by tsb247 More content Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSj 12 Posted May 20, 2011 There are definitely bubbles in the screenshot, meaning the diver is not using military equipment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsb247 0 Posted May 20, 2011 There are definitely bubbles in the screenshot, meaning the diver is not using military equipment. The fact that the diver is not wearing GIANT tanks on his back and has a small pack on his front indicates a rebreather like the one I posted a link to. http://www.arma3.com/#screenshots Rebreather do let out some bubbles, but not nearly to the extent of a standard SCUBA system. They are supposed to be a closed-loop that recycles the diver's oxygen for, "Rebreathing." Either BI doesn't fully understand how rebreathers work, the bubbles came from somewhere else, or this guy has the smallest lungs on the planet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liquidpinky 11 Posted May 20, 2011 The fact that the diver is not wearing GIANT tanks on his back and has a small pack on his front indicates a rebreather like the one I posted a link to.http://www.arma3.com/#screenshots Rebreather do let out some bubbles, but not nearly to the extent of a standard SCUBA system. They are supposed to be a closed-loop that recycles the diver's oxygen for, "Rebreathing." Either BI doesn't fully understand how rebreathers work, the bubbles came from somewhere else, or this guy has the smallest lungs on the planet. Or maybe a trapped air pocked on the suit somewhere being released or even the release of trapped wind perhaps. :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted May 20, 2011 Or maybe a trapped air pocked on the suit somewhere being released or even the release of trapped wind perhaps. :P You gotta let one rip, when you gotta let one rip. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dale0404 5 Posted May 20, 2011 *giggle* he farted, teehee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyweight 10 Posted May 20, 2011 Even with a rebreather, you're not going to get out of the other dangers of diving - nitrogen narcosis, oxygen toxicity, DCS, the squeeze.... not to mention box jellyfish and fire coral :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEVINMGXP 20 Posted May 20, 2011 Implementing a limited natural air supply without scuba gear should be dead easy. Even Minecraft has that. :D Would that be some sort of a emergancy Oxygen discharger? Im not sure it really exsist in the form of a small tube i tried to find some info on that but when i try to find some info i only can see info about regular scuba gear thats i commenly known by people. ---------- Post added at 04:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:19 PM ---------- Or maybe a trapped air pocked on the suit somewhere being released or even the release of trapped wind perhaps. :P Ok is this thread going the nasty smelly way? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted May 20, 2011 What do the SBS use? he is SBS... ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarlGustaffa 4 Posted May 20, 2011 I just hope there is coastline (seen) and wide rand deep rivers/fjords so we can use it tactically. And that we can push at least the small boats back into the water. And last but absolutely not least; rivers may also have bridges - that AI can actually use :p Also hope you don't loose your gear while in scuba (would be kinda silly :D), only if you don't have scuba, and that the scuba gear is gear you can pick up and equip yourself with during playtime. Also goes for a SAW gunners vest, so you can fit 200 round belts on the body, whereas others have to use backpacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicholas 5 Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) I'm assuming so, but this isn't actually fully implemented into VBS2 yet. It's only in beta stages currently. New underwater rendering is at Beta ƒ Due in VBS2 v2.00, March 2012 I'm sure the rebreather will look exactly like this: Edited May 20, 2011 by Nicholas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iroquois Pliskin 0 Posted May 20, 2011 I'm assuming so, but this isn't actually fully implemented into VBS2 yet. It's only in beta stages currently.I'm sure the rebreather will look exactly like this: http://i56.tinypic.com/wty7ir.jpg I was under the impression, that commercial development was at the forefront of innovation, VBS2 still looks like Armed Assault 1. :X Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dysta 10 Posted May 20, 2011 And yea, the blood effect in underwater must be careful also, without flow blood is sinking (or floating when in sea) instead of spreading, so the hollywood-style blood-mist should be avoid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou Montana 101 Posted May 21, 2011 "This is Snake. Colonel, do you hear me ?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baron von Beer 0 Posted May 21, 2011 Thunderball scenario, coming to an Arma 3 installation near you. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[aps]gnat 28 Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) VBS2 still looks like Armed Assault 1. :X Think you need to check a few more web sites. I have the 67 page VBS2 presentation for GameTech in Macrh, the features are MIND BLOWING. As for looks, as has been said many times, the VBS series is not about the extra special graphics that ArmA has had, its military training software so it doesn't need glowing cows. Anyhow, VBS discussion belongs in the VBS thread. Edit: This is the VBS2 beta Underwater Rendering changes. I guess we can expect similar for ArmA3 Edited May 21, 2011 by [APS]Gnat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites