ARMA 2: OA beta build 73968

[avengerzx 10]

Yes! Disable V-sync! This function has finally been released!

Thanks BIS!

Now my FPS goes over 120!!! Usually 75 max in Armoury, now its 165 max!!

Wooot!!

Testing benchmark now

Results:

Average 55 FPS

Edited October 10, 2010 by avengerzx

[Imperator[TFD] 444]

I am noting a tendency for helos in Takistan to crash into terrain.

Their ability to cross valleys perpendicular has always been a massive problem. Once they clear the first crest they attempt to mold their flight to the terrain but aren't able to pull up in time with the valley on the other side.

[CarlGustaffa 4]

In non-beta the rounds land at the center of the aiming reticle even when moving. In beta the movement vector of the vehicle becomes a factor, making the weaponDirection command inaccurate and useless. If this isn't fixed, I have no idea how else to produce the intended effect of the script.

Subtract the velocity of the vehicle? Just an idea, have no idea if it does anything good...

Massive spam of type:

4:25:43 class HitPoints::HitEngine not found in C130J_US_EP1

Currently .rpt is growing at a rate of 3kb per second... Noooot good...

Edited October 10, 2010 by CarlGustaffa

[50.cal 10]

Any chances to have the v-sync option in video options?

Also when I've checked my arma2oa.cfg file I found that the render res was lower than my screen res.

Changing this did not make any noticeable visual or performance difference. I understand that 3d res and render res isn't the same thing but what's the difference?

Edited October 10, 2010 by 50.cal

[fraghetti 10]

i have serious LOD issues, my character and some vehicles (humvee e.g.) never! change their lod and are locked at the lowest details.

[celery 8]

Subtract the velocity of the vehicle? Just an idea, have no idea if it does anything good...

Nope, doesn't do it.

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Now that I messed around more, it seems that executing the script with spawn instead of call fixes the problem. I'm 22 and what is this? :confused:

[KeyCat 131]

Now it's a real pleasure to be a gunner/commander in a APC/tank, using the optics and see a (close to) flicker free "armaverse" shows this graphic engine in all it's glory!

Tried the same in a heli and it's close to picture perfect while the heli is hovering and you as gunner scans for targets using the DTV etc. but as soon you fire the cannon heavy Z-fighting/flickering is again very notable (this don't happen in APC/tanks). Below are some screen shots and hope it shows, if not DL and try the mission yourself.

Everything looks awesome with no/minimal Z-fight/flickering.

until you fire the cannon :(

Same situation but another house/object and "armaverse" looks great scanning.

until firing the cannon again.

Link to mission file:

http://keycat.no-ip.com/files/A2OA_B73968_ZF2.zip

Just ride along until heli stop and hovers. Go heads down and zoom in max on some buildings, then fire the M230 cannon and you will see it. I only tried with AH-64 so if someone tries with other helis please post result here.

/KC

Edited October 10, 2010 by KeyCat

[santafee 10]

the graphics in arma could be so beautiful if this AND the texture streaming (popping) just would be fixed to a minimum... it takes the immerson and this is what the game makes. its so sad that the streaming of textures sucks so bad..the z fighting is a good step for improving the graphics for now def.

[KeyCat 131]

Trying to stay positive here and since the Z-fighting is partly fixed in this beta BIS must be on the right track and maybe more importantly - it shows it is possible in current engine - so I'm pretty confident they will nail this one for good!

If they manage to get it working like it is now while using optics in a tank/APC at max zoom it would be a major success IMO!

At least lets hope and send some positive vibes along with our observations/reports ;)

/KC

Edited October 10, 2010 by KeyCat

[bensdale 0]

Any chances to have the v-sync option in video options?

Good idea

Very nice beta!

Especially glad to see the fog fix.

Now that many of the nasty bugs are squashed, please take a look at some of the highest voted feature tickets, that would really help gameplay.

Bullet-in-chamber accounting

Realistic reload animation

Increase the atmoshpere of foul weather

Laser beam end to glow where it hits the ground

Holy i would even kill for a good and realistic reload animaiton ;)

[Zipper5 74]

If I'm not mistaken, even VBS2 doesn't have proper reload animations for each weapon...

[fraghetti 10]

in single(/scenario?)-mission E04 the enemys instantly know where i am when i detonate the bombs

is this supposed to happen? i cant imagine. dunno if it's an only-beta-patch error

Edited October 10, 2010 by fraghetti

[That guy 10]

in single(/scenario?)-mission E04 the enemys instantly know where i am when i detonate the bombs

is this supposed to happen? i cant imagine. dunno if it's an only-beta-patch error

sounds like the reemergence of an old arma 1 bug in which AIs would reveal the trigger man when killed by an exploding satchel (or mine as well i think)

[no use for a name 0]

in single(/scenario?)-mission E04 the enemys instantly know where i am when i detonate the bombs

is this supposed to happen? i cant imagine. dunno if it's an only-beta-patch error

It's a known issue: http://dev-heaven.net/issues/11610

[nyles 11]

If I'm not mistaken, even VBS2 doesn't have proper reload animations for each weapon...

True, and for that to be really meaningful, it would actually make sense to establish an entire additional layer in the ammunition category, which would allow customizing each individual bullet per magazine, like its type, so you could define tracer sequences for example, or also the amount, like intentionally keeping a mag below max capacity to reduce misfires. Individual surplus rounds could be kept in a container magazine slot. or you could even create packaged ammopacks, which could hold more rounds per slot, but could not be directly loaded into magazines.

This would be a small personal dream of mine, but still, I would so much prefer if the following EXISTING ISSUES would be fixed, before adding any NEW gameplay system on top of what we have, right now.

TAB Lock on Infantry in OA

Lock obscured targets at extreme distances

SACLOS missile range too short

Certain missiles lack manual guidance

Some cars can drive faster off-road than on roads

M2A2 and M2A3 armor values inverted

Bullets lose too much damage over distance

Aircraft countermeasures too effective

I can't stress out enough how important it is for adversarial PvP multiplayer to get as many of the problems above corrected. People that are not into PvP, or which simply prefer offline or coop might not care about these issues so much, but for people who enjoy a good, fair and balanced PvP match, the above is ESSENTIEL. Sorry to repeat myself, but I have been waiting long enough for this and my clan is currently debating whether to drop playing ArmA2 once more (last time we stopped playing OFP because of similar issues), since there is so little progress from the gameplay side with the patches. Another big part here is the in my opinion naiivity of BIS to not support Combined Ops, gameplay-wise, and bringing both old an new OA units in line (stats, TI, etc), even though the majority of the populated multiplayer servers are already hosting CO.

To say the least, it's getting really frustrating. Of course it's great to see all the technical improvements, esp. in regard to rendering and AI, but please don't forget game balance!

Edited October 10, 2010 by Nyles

[Ulanthorn 10]

Im curious that nobody mentioned the hilarious range of unguides AT warheads with practically no drop over range. MAWWS and to some degree the RPG-7 can fight tanks effecticly up to 1500m in game...in reality a PG-7VR has a maximum effective range of 200m on a stationary target.

MAWWS and SMAW should also be limited to 500-600 meters with a more balistic and arching flight profile.

The OG-7V in ArmA tend to have such range and accuracy that I often use them as Primary weapon with 6 Grenades against snipers or whole groups and a Revover for close quarter combat

Edited October 10, 2010 by Ulanthorn

[nyles 11]

A very good point! I missed looking for that ticket when compiling my list.

I checked through the issue tracker briefly, but couldn't find anything directly related to this. The only thing roughly related to this would be:

FuseDistance not working for missiles

[Ulanthorn 10]

A very good point! I missed looking for that ticket when compiling my list.

I checked through the issue tracker briefly, but couldn't find anything directly related to this. The only thing roughly related to this would be:

FuseDistance not working for missiles

That not hitting the point in this case. Seems we need a new ticket...anyone with a login account here?

[Alwarren 2767]

Tried the same in a heli and it's close to picture perfect while the heli is hovering and you as gunner scans for targets using the DTV etc. but as soon you fire the cannon heavy Z-fighting/flickering is again very notable (this don't happen in APC/tanks). Below are some screen shots and hope it shows, if not DL and try the mission yourself.

Pure speculation on my part, but I guess the problem is the range of Z values (or W values depending on what technique is used). If you have a clear view of distant geometry, it is possible to adjust the range of Z values used sufficiently so that inaccuracies in the Z buffer do not cause flickering. If you fire, you essentially expand the relevant range since the projectiles need to be rendered too; the result is a larger Z range and hence more z flickering. Could also explain the flicker in prone position since the ground/grass becomes visible

But as I said this is pure speculation on my part.

[Defunkt 431]

I predict that if everybody uses these threads to just complain about their own personal peeve rather than provide feedback on those alterations particular to the posted beta we will very quickly lose the level of engagement we currently enjoy with the developer's.

[Ulanthorn 10]

I predict that if everybody uses these threads to just complain about their own personal peeve rather than provide feedback on those alterations particular to the posted beta we will quite simply lose the level of engagement we currently enjoy with the developer's.

Well...Players may also loose their level of engament when even after 5 months such unreal weapons behavior's like that of the AT weapons and AK recoils is still not fixed...it was at least bearable in ArmA II now it's going Doom more and more...I exspect the introduction of rockets jumps next.

The new recoils (with the AKs going fubar) where introduced also in a beta, so why not discuss this in a beta thread???

If there will ever be the already overdue overhaul of AT Launchers with the reintroduction of ballistic flight profiles and not the straight Arcade one like now, it would be in a beta for sure also.

And not every User has a DeHeaven account.

[Defunkt 431]

I wanna do what I wanna do...

Go ahead bud but you'll achieve nothing at all other than to ruin it for everybody else.

[whisper 0]

http://dev-heaven.net

register on top right

fill the form, and you're in

If you have that big an issue, it shouldn't be hard to do the above.

[mrcash2009 0]

I predict that if everybody uses these threads to just complain about their own personal peeve rather than provide feedback on those alterations particular to the posted beta we will very quickly lose the level of engagement we currently enjoy with the developer's.

Amen to that sir.

I thought "ooh new beta lets check the progress", and then read the latter part of this thread and its sort of morphed into a "wants & fixes please" thread, we could flood this with hundreds, but that's not about "THIS" beta.

Anyway, nice to see some more updates coming, need to test this out soon especially Z fighting issues, life has gotten in the way recently to crank this baby up :(:).

[raserisk 12]

I think this patch broke the D-30's...I have played several of my missions where they are crucial to OPFOR to stop BLUFOR from advancing and they refuse to fire now.