CM Operation Flashpoint 3 announced | "Oops, they're doing it again..."

[Heatseeker 0]

Those REAL INGAME PICS look amazing, this game is going to have incredible graphics :rolleyes: .

And if you fail to see the sarcasm in this post i'll punch you in the back of the head :rolleyes: .

[Inkompetent 0]

So we'll get Call of Duty: Modern Warfare with 4-player COOP? Why can't they say that at once, without all the gibberish?

[Zipper5 74]

So we'll get Call of Duty: Modern Warfare with 4-player COOP?

Black Ops is apparently already doing that, therefore, as-of-yet, Red River has no unique features. At least DR had scope... *Cough*

I call it:

Operation Dutypoint: Bad Red 2

Edited August 6, 2010 by Zipper5

[Inkompetent 0]

So we get to choose between one game made by Codemasters, and one released by Activision, being so awesomely unique they come in different boxes and with different titles. Yay.:icon_ohmygod:

[[GLT] Legislator 66]

Wait what? No PvP because of the war in Afghanistan?

I guess that's one of the greatest **** I've ever heard of. And it's a dangerous double-moral too. So war is "good" if you don't kill americans, at least that's the understanding I get from the CM point of view. As if there's something good in war at all :rolleyes: Guess they can't relate between reality and gaming realities. Hell, it's a game. If you kill a soldier ingame it has nothing to do with political, social or ethnic backgrounds. It's just a matter of ingame survival. I guess they just don't want to invest more ressources in the mp mode. Running out of money maybe?

It reminds me to the release of C&C Generals as well when the 3rd Iraq War started. The game had been banned in germany until the game had been refit to enjoy the "publicity". The funny thing was, in Red Alert 2 you could destroy the WTC and nobody cared about that. Double-moral again. It's always happening again.

[Zipper5 74]

Morons like Mr. Lenton here don't realize that most of the sane world can see the difference between a video game and reality.

I still can't believe CM brought him back. Even the DR community hated him. :rolleyes:

[EricM 0]

Wow... I hoped they would have solved the problems in Dragon Rising by enhancing the engine and getting rid of it main flaws, not by crippling the features and making it a standard corridor FPS...

Now they are direct competitors with MW, MOH and Battlefield 2... Good luck with that. It's really sad for the Brand...

[Zipper5 74]

Too much effort and not enough payoff for a bigname game developer nowadays, EricM.

That's one of the biggest reasons I love BIS. They realize that they can't expect to get epic sales from their games, but that is never their main objective. They make games because they like making them. Sure, they still have monetary needs, but they have great passion for their products. It's really only BIS and Valve who I can say are remaining that way.

[[GLT] Legislator 66]

It's really only BIS and Valve who I can say are remaining that way.

And Blizzard Interactive that might be added. It's amazing that they released an official patch for Diablo 2 even after 10 years! It's all about support in the software industry. I can't imagine the ArmA series without the long term support. Most people weren't here anymore I guess, including myself.

I can't imagine the Bohemia Saga being a corridor or arena-type first person shooter. After 10 years spending time with the B. Saga I wouldn't get along anyway with other shooters :p

[That guy 10]

the difference being both valve and blizzard are both dev and publisher up to thier necks in personnel and money. they can afford to shamelessly delay a products to refine it in to an almost perfect bug free diamond. BIS cant. they need to release, then refine

people are guaranteed to buy anything those guys make in droves.

see if codies had that kind of reputation and dedication, im sure the game would be amazin' (they could afford to build the game for years and not scrap it a bunch of times and fire the whole dev team). but they dont, and we're get'n some cod sandwich

[Nickos 10]

Greaaaat...DR was set in a standard foresty place (like ArmA 2) and the NEW ABSOLUTELY GREAT COMBAT SIMULATOR WHICH SCREEN SHOTS ARE COMPLETELY NOT RENDERED LIKE IT WAS BEFORE is set in a desert middle east theme (ArmA 2 Operation Arrowhead) Well hell, they think that if they got the name of the BIS combat sim mothergame, they also have the right to badly copy everything that their ex-employees have made...

Codemasters, you were complete IDIOTS letting BIS out of your leash and now you're trying to fix your FUCKING mistake by vampiring out their success by making City Interactive-like copies of various GOOD, ENTERTAINING and WELL SELLING games, thinking that some idiots will buy them thinking they can get the similar thing for a lower price.

No, Codemasters, this is not how the fucking thing works...Anybody send this post to CM for me? Cause I ain't got their address. Fuck, I bet that if BIS sued Codemasters for copyrights and stuff (and it would take place in an American court) they would fucking WIN it.

PS. Sorry if I fucking offended somebody, but just the ultra-original "Tajikistan" of the Red whatever is driving me MAAAAD!

PS #2. Also, I think that the grand failure of the new Operation Flashpoints is the BIS anti-piracy FADE system turning on at Codemasters studios :D

Edited August 6, 2010 by Nickos
Added some more nifty parts flaming the stupid, stuuuupid CM

[Inkompetent 0]

And Blizzard Interactive that might be added. It's amazing that they released an official patch for Diablo 2 even after 10 years! It's all about support in the software industry.

This'll end with all new Blizzard-games though, since there's no 'big money' in it, and thus Activision won't be interested, and if Activision isn't interested then ActivisionBlizzard isn't interested, so Blizzard employees will have to code those patches in their free time, or when Blizzard can spare coders that at the moment aren't needed on stuff to actually earn money on.

ActivisionBlizzard's whole purpose is to earn more money than any other entity in the world of gaming. This means doing stuff for charity, good reputation and happy customers isn't in the business plan. The whole merge between Vivendi and Activision explicitly states that earning more money than anoyone else is the sole purpose, and this far Activision and Mr. Kotick (sorry everyone for cursing!) has done a grand job at alienating their customer base and earning money, or preparing to earn money.

[Zipper5 74]

Now that you mention the similarities between OA and Red River (or what is so far)...

Takistan... Tajikistan...

*Cough*

I wonder where they got the idea to use Tajikistan of all places. They've been peaceful for many years, not to mention the fact that there are currently French, Indian, Russian and American troops stationed there to guard it's border with Afghanistan.

PS. Kotick is the face that embodies everything wrong with gaming today.

Edited August 6, 2010 by Zipper5

[Nickos 10]

Now that you mention the similarities between OA and Red River (or what is so far)...

Takistan... Tajikistan...

*Cough*

I wonder where they got the idea to use Tajikistan of all places. They've been peaceful for many years.

PS. Kotick is the face that embodies everything wrong with gaming today.

Or on the other side, HOW THE FUCK DID THE PLA GOT THERE?! :confused:

Also, it's not that they're copying only from Operation Arrowhead, they also copied much things in DR from the vanilla ArmA 2. Also, isn't it a funny coincidence that Red River got announced soon after the release of the completely different and unrelated game that is OA?

Edited August 6, 2010 by Nickos

[Zipper5 74]

Say what? The PLA are still the bad guys? What the hell does Tajikstan have that China would want? It's purely a border to Afghanistan to other Coalition countries, and as far as I know doesn't have masses of oil and gas like other countries in the region.

Well there surely must be a WW3 scenario involved in Red River if Chinese, American, Russian, French and Indian soldiers are all occupying the country...

[Nickos 10]

Say what? The PLA are still the bad guys? What the hell does Tajikstan have that China would want? It's purely a border to Afghanistan to other Coalition countries, and as far as I know doesn't have masses of oil and gas like other countries in the region.

Well there surely must be a WW3 scenario involved in Red River if Chinese, American, Russian, French and Indian soldiers are all occupying the country...

This, or the Chinese AGAIN happily took it from the Russians and the brave US army (yes, they swapped from USMC to US Army, completely not related to ArmA 2 at all!) must get it back from their bad, bad socialist hands and bring democracy, free speech and cash for Codemasters peace in the poor occupied country.

[Zipper5 74]

It's the US Army now? None of the character drawings or even the concept images look like ACU or even Multicam (if it's set in the near future it could work). In fact, it looks like it's desert MARPAT. Then again, if you recall back to the DR concept art and their camo, which was supposed to be woodland MARPAT... :rolleyes:

Given the hints to the storyline and the facts about Tajikistan I predict another half-baked SP campaign. OA's campaign's fairly weak story looks like a best-selling novel compared to DR's.

[Simon C 0]

It's to do with this.

[max power 21]

It's the US Army now? None of the character drawings or even the concept images look like ACU or even Multicam (if it's set in the near future it could work). In fact, it looks like it's desert MARPAT. Then again, if you recall back to the DR concept art and their camo, which was supposed to be woodland MARPAT... :rolleyes:

Given the hints to the storyline and the facts about Tajikistan I predict another half-baked SP campaign. OA's campaign's fairly weak story looks like a best-selling novel compared to DR's.

Of course it's to do with the Army. Operation Arrowhead was to do with the Army, just like ArmA 2 was to do with the Marines.

[nodunit 397]

Oh dear not again, the first was like watching a train wreck in slow motion and now they send another one out, perhaps if they copy a similar company more this one might make it...

Oh well, might as well prepare for the future laughs to be had.

[Zipper5 74]

It's to do with this.

Ah ok, but it still has nothing to do with the Chinese...

Oh well, you know what they say - copying is a form of flattery. BIS can take great pride in knowing that they still do things better and more originally than a big-name publisher/developer like Codemasters. ;)

[SPC.Spets 21]

I was big dissapointed with OPF DR, there was no dragons in the game, really bad

[Nickos 10]

I was big dissapointed with OPF DR, there was no dragons in the game, really bad

Don't worry, with Codemasters current game policy, if there willl be no dragons in Red River, they'll surely be in OFP 3: K&L Shanghai Riot

[Zipper5 74]

Might not be any Dragons, but if Codemasters take themselves less seriously, like BIS did with OA, then we might see some tampons and maxipads in Red River. :p

[Simon C 0]

Another quote full of fail:

...there's now a rifleman, grenadier, scout and auto rifleman, and while they all carry an M4A1 they've also got their own weapons and their own attributes.

Since when do Automatic Riflemen carry M4s?