ARMA 2 (OA) : DLC discussion thread

[PuFu 4600]

You forget some things:

1. even with DLC from BIS (payed or not), they haven't, and will never deny you from making whatever addon you feel like. If brits are so needed, i don't understand why some of the ppl whining for the last week, have not started such a project on their own.

2. Addons take time. Yes, in A2, there are LOTs of ppl creating new content every day, and the only thing they demand is proper credits and some appreciation for their free work their doing. Instead, the same community they share their work with (bear in mind than EVERY addon maker is doing whatever he is doing for himself and for his own fun before anything and anyone else), is either stealing their work and selling it on turbosquid, or demanding changes etc etc. This does nothing but to limit the amount of ppl willing to spend their free time creating content

SO BIS is going to try and fill that gap: create New content and make it available for you to use, for a fee

(nothing is free in this world, so most likely you will need to pay for it, especially if they are gonna work with external developers - they need to be paid anyways - for specific content).

I don't get where is the problem?

[Sniperwolf572 758]

Most of you fu cks would like to see that company like BIS would give you all their stuff for free, tools and their cars...maybe their wifes too. Thats not adult thinking my friends.

Neither is insulting members of these forums, but you know, the nerve of some people, right?

[Big Dawg KS 6]

I refuse to pay for something that's developed in stride with the retail product, but held back for release.

Do you really think that's the case? If it weren't for DLC, BIS's artists would probably be doing nothing right now. OA has gone gold and is only days from release; even if they hadn't considered DLC they wouldn't still be working on content for it. Besides, the list of new content in OA already rivals (dare I say even beats) what we originally got in ArmA 2. Doesn't seem to me like they're holding anything back.

I would rather donate to the ACE 2 Dev team..

You'd find that would be quite a waste then.

...than pay for some repurposed models/textures.

Again, what the hell do you know? BIS has given us free addons ever since OFP, and they are going to continue doing so after OA. Now, what they are also going to do is offer some more significant releases (and nobody has said anything about what they would include, whether it's just content or new features) that you could pay for.

And what's with all the speculation? It gets worse and worse with every product BI makes. Every friggen time, people go and shoot their mouths off, bitching and moaning about things they are totally clueless about. It's getting extremely annoying. :mad:

[nodunit 397]

The community has a natural knack for jumping the gun, panicking and blowing things out proportion..

[Fred DM 0]

I'm still not convinced that those infantry models are from BIS. If it has been stated in another thread that they are (OA official discussion thread maybe...), then I suppose I missed that. For all we know, those awesome Brisith models are simply a well-made community mod. I know there are quite a few British vehicles, skins, weapons, and the like floating around the various ArmA/ArmA2 mod sites.

if they were indeed community models, don't you think somebody would have pointed that out by now? besides, they look very professionally made, and in the same style as the upcoming US Army soldiers in OA; different body armor configurations, some with only t-shirts, etc.

they do look like BIS' work.

[whisper 0]

BIS has joined the "Dark side" for me, but yeah we will see how this will turn out...

I wouldn´t mind if they would Provide Things like an 3-D Editor as DLC, this wouldn´t have nothing to do with MP but would be really usefull...

No no no and no.

That's exactly what I want them to make FREE DLC with.

All you naysayers act like BI are now only going to release paid content. Have missed the part where they explicitly said they're going to continue releasing free stuff, or is it easier to skip it and announce that the sky is falling?

"BI joined the dark side" lol Funny coming from the guy announcing rumors as "confirmed features". I had warn about all this overly enthousiastic reactions back then, watch now all goes to hell at the slightest sign of something unexpected

[mchide 0]

Neither is insulting members of these forums, but you know, the nerve of some people, right?

Of course i do. ;) i knew that 2 points will came fast.... Its been long since i checked forum rules. 2001?

Back to topic. There was time when BIS waited, they waited and waited. Nothing hapened for too long and than they had one nice office meeting. They decided there that he will make model, other he will make textures, and another other he will make config. Later they released AH64 for free because there was no good talented addon makers around who could make us good enaugh Apache for public release.

[warrick 10]

If i were for the devs, i would rather concentrate on the core game and the engine, and i would let the community doing these kind of works.

As for the paid dlc thing, I don't think, that a simple british army dlc, or something like this would bring them a reasonable amount of cash, so it should definitely be a bigger, more extensive content, that is rather an expansion, than a dlc.

[Blake 0]

It's problematic for some online squads that some members are willing to pay for DLC and others not so there is a lot of decisions to be made wheter to jump in on the DLC wagon or not.

Personally I'd like to see DLC more like full-fledged expansions which would bring A2 to completely new theaters (Like WW2 & Vietnam) and which are not necessary to include much engine changes. For example I'd gladly pay 20-40€ for WW2 expansion which would include campaign, period music, maps, units etc. the whole lot but I'd would not be willing to pay even flimsy 2€ for Spanish, French, Irish or whatever army addon which would just have units. The gameplay and atmosphere would just basically be the same.

But if there's significant improvements on the code, more complex modules and other things (like realistic artillery, ability to shoot from vehicles, advance wounding simulation etc. stuff seen in VBS2) which would add new angles to gameplay I would gladly pay for them.

Anyway paying for just extra units without any context or scale of an expansion would hardly be worth it.

Edited June 11, 2010 by Blake

[thr0tt 12]

Cool DLC paid for. I mean most the servers are so full why not just split the community up into DLC or non DLC. But as stated 'you dont have to buy it', Lets hope there is enough room for all the thousands of ArmA 2 players along side the ArmA 2 OA and the ArmA 2 OA DLC players on the same server search tool.

I guess this being the last release of said software (probable) then milking is the way to go, good luck.

[Darkhorse 1-6 16]

I guess this being the last release of said software (probable) then milking is the way to go, good luck.

Wrong. Bohemia has even said as much in the OA FAQ. Please do some research before you go around spreading crap rumors like this. :j:

[icewindo 29]

What do you mean by "based"? Surely you don't mean BIS took the modders' work and called it there own?

Yes, BIS took some modders' work and called it there own... ;)

...but not before asking permission and making a deal (?) :p , check the credits section of the ArmA2 manual for a listup of all the external contributors.

[ShadowY 0]

I do not know what in ArmA III will be fought with, but I can tell you that in ArmA IV you do not have to worry about extra DLC :rolleyes:

[thr0tt 12]

Wrong. Bohemia has even said as much in the OA FAQ. Please do some research before you go around spreading crap rumors like this. :j:

You have showed your forum worth, saves the rest of us doing our 'research', please carry on helping as it also saves the mods that job too. Let me know if there is anything else that may be incorrect or maybe gramatically wrong, thats always a refreshing reply to hear.

[Fox '09 14]

any way to ignore threads? :p

this is really all garbage to me.

Edited June 11, 2010 by Fox '09

[tsb247 0]

if they were indeed community models, don't you think somebody would have pointed that out by now? besides, they look very professionally made, and in the same style as the upcoming US Army soldiers in OA; different body armor configurations, some with only t-shirts, etc.

they do look like BIS' work.

It's possible that they are official BIS content, but then again, they could also be the work of some modder that never bothered to release them to the general public.

I suppose we will know when BIS announces their DLC, right? :D

[Zipper5 74]

You know that Jonny, the guy who made the USMC for ArmA, helped with the USMC for Arma 2, correct? Why would it be any different with these Brits, even if they were made by a community member?

[Daniel 0]

Now, who wants some donkey armor?

Me, me! I want donkey armour!

http://www.fototime.com/E3CE3459FDA9FD4/orig.jpg

Talk about equipment shortages, this one doesn't even have standard issue Kevlar blinkers. Poor devil.

Edited June 11, 2010 by Daniel

[jonneymendoza 10]

You know that Jonny, the guy who made the USMC for ArmA, helped with the USMC for Arma 2, correct? Why would it be any different with these Brits, even if they were made by a community member?

you talking to me?

[rstratton 0]

id gladly pay full price for some dlc that included some new features/engine changes. the content can be created by the community like it has been for years

[Heatseeker 0]

I get the feeling your PC couldn't handle Arma 2. Or some other arbitrary reason that the majority have claimed Arma 2 to simply be an expansion for ArmA because of.

True, the buildings and some vegetation of Chernarus really chewed my frame rate but you missed the point..

Imo A2 isnt that diferent from Arma, its the same game somewhere else with some changes, aditions, improvements and many bugs too... and i dont mean that in a bad way, its just the way it is.

A2 + OA + DLC ('s) + user content? Its a lot of content but i'd rather have substancial gameplay improvements instead, like a real new game.

Im not dissing the idea of addon packs but im not that excited about a new soldier or tank that looks diferent but does more or less the same.

[Mafia101 0]

wow 18 pages with around 6+h GG! :P

[Laqueesha 474]

You know that Jonny, the guy who made the USMC for ArmA, helped with the USMC for Arma 2, correct?

¿Tu serio? :confused:

[Rayers12 19]

You... didn't notice that they were extremely similar?

[mattxr 9]

I think maybe we will get a DLC 3D Editor now that would be a good idea! Id certainly pay for a working 3D Editor, that could also merge into the 2D editor! :)

Now people instead of fighting, and moaning, lets get some good ideas for BIS! Show them were not all assholes on this fourm :)