Why is this game not more popular?

[celery 8]

I know why....most people are too stupid to play this game....they lack patience they lack the ability to learn, they lack intelligence, and common sense....now lets be clear that these are not efficiencies with the game but with people and do not warrant any game changes as making the game more accessible would do a disservice to all of us, who can adapt, learn and grow....

with that said we might as well close the thread....

Way to elevate yourself above most gamers in the world.

[colosseum 34]

The biggest barrier to being able to play this game with friends is its CPU and video card requirements. Right now I can only play it with one of my friends (he has a decent computer we built), and everyone else just gets to watch or take turns playing.

Two guys have said "playing a $30 game is not worth building a $1000 computer for".

[ProfTournesol 956]

The biggest barrier to being able to play this game with friends is its CPU and video card requirements. Right now I can only play it with one of my friends (he has a decent computer we built), and everyone else just gets to watch or take turns playing.

Two guys have said "playing a $30 game is not worth building a $1000 computer for".

Yes of course, that's sounds logical, but i guess this game is worth the hardware investment. I can afford it as i'm a working grown up, which isn't the case of younger players.

[NeuroFunker 11]

i can say, practically i upgraded my PC for ArmA, i play few more modern games, but most of them are just 1 night play through, and forget about it. That's not the case about ArmA. It takes you few days to figure out the basics about it. Multiplayer is another part about arma, what i like most. Especially missions variations: coop, hold, CTI, Civi vs Cop missions.

IMO, if u buy arma, you pay not for just 1 game, but many in one. realy awesome Sandbox Constructor and war simulation.

[colosseum 34]

Exactly... they don't seem to understand that ArmA replaces Call of Duty, Battlefield 3, FlightSim, racing games etc.

And yeah, since these guys are basically unemployed for all intents and purposes, it's difficult for them to drop that kind of money on a computer for gaming. But then again they're perfectly willing to waste $1500 on a Mac toy that does basically nothing except Google Chrome and Microsoft Office... but let's not go there...

[evil_brownie 17]

People shouldn't really be comparing this to CoD or the BF series...

They are diferent games for diferent tastes and play styles. Get over it.

And as for 30$ game isn't worth buying a 1000$ pc, i can now say i did just that (actually a bit more) and i don't regret it one bit. I actually stopped playing the game for about year and a half, because my old pc was already 5 years old when i got the game back in 2009 and it started to die down. Now though, i can enjoy it whenever i want again.

Sorry for the offtopic excursion there :p But yeah, i agree that the game shouldn't have a big player base and i hope that BIS doesn't dumb it down for the next one to try and draw more people.

Edited October 11, 2011 by Evil_Brownie
Grammar corrections.

[wiggum2 31]

Exactly... they don't seem to understand that ArmA replaces Call of Duty, Battlefield 3, FlightSim, racing games etc.

ArmA replaces nothing, its just a differend kind of game.

And if someone wants a FlightSim or racing games...im pretty sure he will not play ArmA ! :rolleyes:

[metalcraze 290]

Actually ArmA does replace a lot of games - meaning it easily takes all the time you could be spending on them :>

[celery 8]

By that logic, taking a crap periodically replaces Arma 2 for me.

[metalcraze 290]

By that logic, taking a crap periodically replaces Arma 2 for me.

You are forced to take a crap.

[tk1138 10]

Way to elevate yourself above most gamers in the world.

why not its the truth isnt it most people this game would be too hard....and im elevating my self above MOST PEOPLE in the world....i mean if a 'gamer' cant take the day it takes to learn the game...then they are in a pretty sad state...im sure alot of people would like this game if only they took the time to learn it...

[colosseum 34]

ArmA replaces nothing, its just a differend kind of game.

1. I bought ArmA.

2. I stopped playing CoD.

3. I stopped playing FSX.

4. I stopped playing Forza.

Mission accomplished.

[celery 8]

why not its the truth isnt it most people this game would be too hard....and im elevating my self above MOST PEOPLE in the world....i mean if a 'gamer' cant take the day it takes to learn the game...then they are in a pretty sad state...im sure alot of people would like this game if only they took the time to learn it...

No, you're just a conceited elitist who judges himself and others by their taste in games. You might be playing Arma 2, but that doesn't make you a pleasant person, or even literate.

[wiggum2 31]

1. I bought ArmA.

2. I stopped playing CoD.

3. I stopped playing FSX.

4. I stopped playing Forza.

Mission accomplished.

...thats just ridiculous, sorry.

If someone want to fly planes, why should he switch from a real Sim like FSX to the suboptimal ArmA planes and small areas you actually can use ?

If someone want to drive racing cars, why should he switch from a real racinggame like Forza to the ArmA cars with their bad handling ?

Oh, you actually can walk in ArmA, so just stop to play every other game where you can walk... :dance1:

[colosseum 34]

Because in ArmA I can get out of the planes/helicopters with a rifle and fight on the ground.

[wiggum2 31]

Because in ArmA I can get out of the planes/helicopters with a rifle and fight on the ground.

...yeah, i see. :)

[ProfTournesol 956]

Oh, you actually can walk in ArmA, so just stop to play every other game where you can walk... :dance1:

Lol, that's the ultimate walking simulator :)

Edited October 12, 2011 by ProfTournesol

[C.tremblay 10]

And as for 30$ game isn't worth buying a 1000$ pc, i can now say i did just that (actually a bit more) and i don't regret it one bit

I actually have played it on my Macbook Pro (top of the line model with all the bells and whistles custom built) for about a year now. and I finally just got sick of having to play on lowest settings to get above 25FPS. SO I just ordered a second gaming computer at ~$4100 not including taxes and shipping. I cant get the same enjoyment playing battlefield, or counterstrike anymore (battlefield runs over 30fps, and counter stike over 70fps) ... I found If you have the personality to play Arma it is the only game you are able to play cause everything else has lost its edge. And thats why Arma is not so popular in my opinion. I have a buddy who is a huge gaming nerd, the dude has a water-cooled $9000 tower with shit i didnt even know was out yet... I tried to get him to play arma, and his response was "I want to play games, if i wanted real life i would join the army". and that's the problem Simulators appeal to a small market base of people who have the mentality to play it. Part of me is really sad bohemia is making arma 3 in the future, I have a fear it will be more game like and less like a simulator in my mind just due to im playing with all protypes and concept stuff. Im going to purchase it and give it my best go and im sure i will warm up to it. but I honestly wish arma 3 was an updated arma 2 with better graphics, more features, more vehicles and weapons, less bugs, and bigger maps. but that's a completely different topic... and im way off track... i just wanted to second that I to believe in Arma II enough to purchase an insane computer just to play that $30 game.

[Tonci87 163]

Yep, I have also updated my PC for Arma. There are certain games that just deserve to be played with highest settings. Arma is one of them.

[metalcraze 290]

ArmA2 was also the sole reason I've upgraded my PC back then

And ArmA3 will be the reason again.

[colosseum 34]

What kind of computer did you order for $4100 out of curiosity?

I built mine for $1000 using Newegg parts and I never get below 25FPS on any map in A2.

[gnear 0]

I think the main idea why people don't play this in huge numbers is thats its just a hard / slow game --- I play games for entertainment, arma/2 was entertaining for a while, but once I found the limitations of the AI opponents and lack of any real atmosphere until the next massive gun battle, it became dull very quickly.

having said that, I still adore the game, but admittedly I just removed it from my SSD to free up space for other games :-) its just a bit slow and once it gets faster it falls flat in combat mainly from ? animations / AI being so chunky and non-fluid in combat that you become very aware you're not fighting opponents who act the same as you can? if that makes sense.

Its not even as if dropping you into a heart of a massive firefight is that entertaining in arma2 like you'd expect. Somethings missing there, maybe that it just doesnt matter that much if you die or not? which I guess is a very realistic approach to a war simulator, just isnt entertaining. :-P (the main reason people play games isnt it?)

Anyone holding out for Skyrim! thats kinda what i've progressed too now, atmospheric rpgs are a lot more inviting to take up my limited entertainment time :)

edit: I'll just tak this on, as was still thinking about this when I had submitted reply --- I kept arma cold war crisis? (that whats its called now?:P) on the SSD because the original OFP had that feeling which was so entertaining not sure what it was but something about it just made it fun to play / was really entertaining all the time even when just being driven places by ai in the back of a truck :-)

Edited October 13, 2011 by gnear

[HR4 Elite 10]

I think the main idea why people don't play this in huge numbers is thats its just a hard / slow game --- I play games for entertainment, arma/2 was entertaining for a while, but once I found the limitations of the AI opponents and lack of any real atmosphere until the next massive gun battle, it became dull very quickly.

Yes I can see what you mean if you want fast entertainment and have very little time to fulfil that, Arma2 is a hobby I think rather than a game. Regards the AI you must have used the box standard AI, string ACE, COSLX, GL4 & ASR together (all AI altering) set them to a reasonably sensible skill level and you have the best AI you will encounter, house searches, flanking manouvers, using rooftop terraces, dragging injured comrades out of the line of fire & then give first aid assistance, snipers that are truly accurate, suppressive fire, etc, etc the list goes on and all unscripted i.e. they play differently every time, also not just AI wise but FX wise with JTD, WarFXParticles, Blastcore plus many more and then there's dynamic sound mods, new weapons, troops, vehicles, aircraft, boats and ships, etc list goes on and on, I have 40 islands to choose from, in-fact 103 mods/addons/islands load when I start the game and every one of those adds a new dimension, everything is there for marathon missions right down to quick fire fight missions if you want quick excitement/entertainment, only thing is, you do really need some time to put it together (i.e. mission editor), but once you have a few missions set out and know they will play differently every time, especially city/town fire fights, quick intense and exciting all rolled together, then you have a game that would blow holes through many other quickie type games, its all down to how its setup, Arma is completely customisable, covers every aspect for this genre. As for atmosphere, no, no, no, Arma definitely does not suffer from lack of atmosphere, again, down to how you set it up.

Nevertheless.. don’t roam too far from Arma, I have a feeling (unfortunately) that Arma3 due next year may be a cross over game 'Arma2 lite' perhaps, I really hope not, but if it is then it will bring many over to the Arma experience. Of course if it is like that I will be sticking with A2, still can understand your post a little.. Time is required to set A2 up if the standard missions that come with it are not enough for you. One advantage of A3 perhaps being a little lighter is MP wise, should appeal to others that find A2 too demanding.. I do really hope that’s not the case, but that’s only because I want Arma to stay Arma, if you understand what I mean..

Anyone holding out for Skyrim! thats kinda what i've progressed too now, atmospheric rpgs are a lot more inviting to take up my limited entertainment time :)

No:p

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Edited October 13, 2011 by HR4 Elite

[katipo66 94]

This is like a Arma soul searching thread, I un-installed arma for what ever reason but most probably for a break, I've now re-installed it and really appreciate it for what it is even more than before, all of the above and then some, i just want to play the game now and not mess too much with scripts and complex (for me) mission making.

I think this game is already popular, obviously it is cos BIS can afford bread and butter from it, maybe if they provide some form of quick and dirty type play variation to it then it might become "more popular". because we all know if you click the Arma icon your in for at least one hour of Armastuff!

[galzohar 31]

Some people are too stupid to play this game, yes, but it's far from the only thing. Some people are too lazy to learn/play this game. Some don't have the time needed to really get into the fun parts of the game (playing with players who know wtf they're doing). Some can't live without their bunny hopping, dolphin diving, snap 180 degree turn into headshot, backflips while nade spamming or just the extreme fast respawn being a given in all game mods. Some are too poor to afford a PC that can run it. Some don't even know it exists, and if they do they don't know what makes it truly awesome. When you add some of this and some of that and some more of that other thing and a bit of this you come up with "ah, this is why this game isn't more popular!". There are just too many factors that make people not play it where you only really need to have one factor relevant for you in order to not play it.

Edited October 13, 2011 by galzohar