should i get ArmA 2?

[Elyx 10]

hi folks, first post here. i've considering whether to get ArmA 2, and here are some of my questions -

1. first and foremost, of course, i'd like to know how much of the game has been fixed to date. i've asked around and the answers i got were contradictory. i'll be frank here - i'm quite adverse to technical glitches and performance issues, especially awkward AI behaviour, so your honest answers in this case will matter alot to me.

2. on my end, my rig meets the recommended specification for all categories except CPU ( i have a dual core e7200 ). how will the game run on my pc, regardless of the game's inherent problems?

3. i know this is a realistic sim, but i'm also expecting to have an exciting and rewarding experience, which means solid presentation (sound, visual, UI, etc), great execution of gameplay elements (AI, physics, mission varieties, etc) and once again, little to no technical glitches. Can i expect these from Arma 2?

4. will it be worth the purchase if i'm not a multiplayer person? what sort of single player content outside of the main campaign can i expect from Arma 2?

that's about it. feel free to speak your piece. thanks for your time. :)

[Defunkt 431]

Only you can decide, get the demo. That way we don't have to listen to you bitch if it doesn't meet your expectations.

[Rogue_Trooper 10]

In a very simple answer wait a while see what the patches do, at the moment it still feels slightly unfinished but that's just my opinion. Its s game with lots of potential but not quite achieving it tbh.

[Elyx 10]

i don't think the demo would show me the current state of the game. obviously you haven't really read my post, so feel free not to reply. that way i don't have to listen to you bitch if your favourite toy doesn't meet my expectations.

[jwalstab 10]

Just man up and buy the game...jesus your asking people who all love the game if you should buy it. Even if I think your not goin to enjoy it, I'll tell you to buy it so money goes to makin the next one.

Also I run it on a P4 3.0ghz, 2 gig ram, 8600GT, but all settings must be set to low...it still looks pretty badarse but.

[maddogx 13]

1. Most of the major issues have been fixed, but some people still experience problems such as the dreaded "recieving" bug. Also, some minor bugs are still present, performance isn't quite optimal and the campaign apparently still has its quirks. If you're expecting a bug-free game, you might be disappointed.

2. As long as you're willing to adjust the graphics settings to a reasonable level, I see no problem. It might take some tweaking to run well though.

3. Exciting and rewarding experience, definitely. The physics aren't Arma2's strong point though, and the AI can be very challenging but does get the idiot ball every once in a while.

4. People are constantly releasing single player missions and campaigns, so you'll probably have an endless supply of entertainment in that regard. Also, you can always dabble a bit in the editor and just have some fun exploring the island with the ambient combat module enabled etc. When it comes to replayability, Arma2 is second to none.

[AAD10 Pete 10]

@Elyx

Sounds you are looking for an almost perfect game. Hmm, I think Arma2 doesn't meet your expectations. If you would be a totally multiplayer-gamer and Mission-Scripter, I would say: Yes, buy it!

But if you put your focus on the singleplayer part of Arma2 with these high expectations... I would wait with buying Arma2.

Your hardware should be ok. But first try out the demo to see if your hardware doesn't have any problems with Arma2.

To sum up Arma2:

Singleplayer and KI: Moderat, Not great, not bad

Multiplayer: Really great!

Scripting Missions: Amazing!

[celery 8]

The game has bugs, technical problems and its campaign is weird and flawed. Your computer may or may not run the game fine. Multiplayer is the best part of the game.

[vilas 477]

hi folks, first post here. i've considering whether to get ArmA 2, and here are some of my questions -

:)

1. it depend what you call bug, what is bug for you, for me one of worst bugs is wrong range of fire of AKS74U and lack of bulletproof materials , i don't care that something is wrong in campaign, cause there is mission editor, and since OFP, BIS products are "do yourself, use imagination and creativity" and i don't care about any campaigns

2. for me 26 FPS is enough on my PC

3. AI is hard to do, so there is for sure better AI than in other games, here it is AI, in other games those are scripted missions and scripted bots

4. yes, it is the strongest value of BIS products - community, no other game offers you as much now

7 years ago RTCW had very big community and missions and map making

also this game is aiming to be simulator (it is not , it is too weak and not realistic) but it aims

other games aim at "fun factor" which of course is very important , but you know - one man likes Sepultura, other Britney Spears

if you consider whether to buy or not

you have no other game like A2, but you cannot expect another CoD, Arma2, OFP1 - are games for creative people

Edited October 13, 2009 by vilas

[no use for a name 0]

hi folks, first post here. i've considering whether to get ArmA 2, and here are some of my questions -

1. first and foremost, of course, i'd like to know how much of the game has been fixed to date. i've asked around and the answers i got were contradictory. i'll be frank here - i'm quite adverse to technical glitches and performance issues, especially awkward AI behaviour, so your honest answers in this case will matter alot to me.

2. on my end, my rig meets the recommended specification for all categories except CPU ( i have a dual core e7200 ). how will the game run on my pc, regardless of the game's inherent problems?

3. i know this is a realistic sim, but i'm also expecting to have an exciting and rewarding experience, which means solid presentation (sound, visual, UI, etc), great execution of gameplay elements (AI, physics, mission varieties, etc) and once again, little to no technical glitches. Can i expect these from Arma 2?

4. will it be worth the purchase if i'm not a multiplayer person? what sort of single player content outside of the main campaign can i expect from Arma 2?

that's about it. feel free to speak your piece. thanks for your time. :)

1. Personally I never had any game-breaking bugs happen; but there are still some glitches that can cause "hiccups". Some people have different experiences.

2. I'm running an e6400 (OC'd) and get 30-35 FPS avg. unless on VERY heavy AI maps in which it does drop down into the low teens; but 99% of the missions I play don't have that many (I'm talking in the hundreds of units)

3. For this I'd say try the demo...

4.If you plan to get into mission editing then yes, definitely. Also there's tons of singleplayer mods/missions that will keep you busy and give you ideas. I still highly suggest you try multiplayer with a smaller organized group of players. If you play pub servers you're going to probably end up punching your screen :)

Again, I highly suggest you try the demo just to get a general feel for the game as there are little quirks and glitches that you may/may not care about

[jw custom 56]

i don't think the demo would show me the current state of the game.

So if you like the demo and the state it's in then you would probably like the state 1.04 is in even more.... try the demo!

[Alex72 1]

Single player part of ARMA2 is not just about the campaign and the missions made by BIS. So there might not be any bugs at all for him to see. Im thinking about the editor and the user made missions wich we get new almost everyday.

Im playing all the time and i very seldom run into a bug.

[vilas 477]

Originally Posted by VectorForFood

On the ARMA2 note, OFP2 has WAY better graphics, and the actualy FPS gameplay blows ARMA2 out of the water

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Originally Posted by Florsi Florsa View Post

I just want to say you did a great job on the menu graphics and music. Very impressive.

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Originally Posted by arma2disapointed View Post

Have a feeling that dragon rising going to take it all if Arma dont change direction soon.

buahahahahahahaha

good, good

my AVP 1 has 390 FPS now, RTCW probably 200 :D

and what DR will take ? with 64 AI on map only ? with 5 members team ? with no tools

with PLA and USA only ? with 1 island , with panzer indestructible trees

[EDcase 87]

Elyx: Its impossible for us to tell you if you will like it. I think its the best game ever and I play mostly sinle player at the moment. It has ENDLESS replayability due to excellent editor and constant addons and missions.

You MUST try the demo and see if the general feel is good for you. Since its such a large scale and comprehensive battlefield simulation the learning curve is steeper than your average shooter. For me thats what makes it more interesting and gives it more life.

Alex72: Love your avatar of Roy. Thats my favourite scene of all time.

[yanquis 10]

i downloaded the demo and loved it. the last mission in bootcamp where u have to enter a village and take out 6 soldiers playing as insurgents (do it without quicksaves) was as intense as anything ive done in far cry 2 which is probably my favorite 'shooter' game. i can only guess the full game is 10x better.

if you're interested these guys are selling it at $20 off for the next 14 hours (its where i bought my copy from) --

http://www.gogamer.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=77101526&extid=Froogle

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Originally Posted by VectorForFood

On the ARMA2 note, OFP2 has WAY better graphics, and the actualy FPS gameplay blows ARMA2 out of the water

^^this is simply not true, at all. the graphics are actually WORSE (arma ii is as beautiful as any thing since far cry 2 & crysis) and i may be in the minority but i dont like the gameplay better either. as for matching arma 2 in the sim department forget about it. if i hadnt played the original OPF i might be impressed w/ OPF2 but as is i have some problems with it that may or not be fair to the designers of that game.

[vilas 477]

yanquis, graphics in not most important

important is realism, gameplay, community, easy doing missions, addons

if you downloaded demo, than now download my Project 85 and than you will realise what is sense of BIS games

ADDONS, custom stuff

only BIS games allows you to have WHAT YOU WANT

you want US soldier from cold war ? you have it

you want US soldier from 1914 ? someone can do it, or you can do it

you want mission "find vodka in forrest" ?

you can do it

you want play with SKS, AK47, M16A1, FAL ? you can

simply ADDONS are sense of those OFP, Arma

in OFP you had dinosaurs, star wars soldiers, lego soldiers, western stuff

this is main sense

not campaign, not mission from developer

but YOU can do missions yourself, you can download missions by someone else

you can do mission for your friends, they can do for you

IT IS EASY

Arma allows you for things, that other games DON'T

addons, community made stuff, community missions, yourown missions for own joy :)

it is sens of BIS game

and screw Dragon's Rice

Edited October 14, 2009 by vilas

[kr@tos 10]

i downloaded the demo and loved it. the last mission in bootcamp where u have to enter a village and take out 6 soldiers playing as insurgents (do it without quicksaves) was as intense as anything ive done in far cry 2 which is probably my favorite 'shooter' game. i can only guess the full game is 10x better.

if you're interested these guys are selling it at $20 off for the next 14 hours (its where i bought my copy from) --

http://www.gogamer.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=77101526&extid=Froogle

---------- Post added at 04:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:52 PM ----------

Originally Posted by VectorForFood

On the ARMA2 note, OFP2 has WAY better graphics, and the actualy FPS gameplay blows ARMA2 out of the water

^^this is simply not true, at all. the graphics are actually WORSE (arma ii is as beautiful as any thing since far cry 2 & crysis) and i may be in the minority but i dont like the gameplay better either. as for matching arma 2 in the sim department forget about it. if i hadnt played the original OPF i might be impressed w/ OPF2 but as is i have some problems with it that may or not be fair to the designers of that game.

Thank for the heads up yankis, i finally got ARMA 2 and it was only $30.98 shipping included !

I hope that BIS release an updated demo with version 1.04 or maybe with the next patch if there is one :) so that more people can try and join the battlefield.

[Mattoso 0]

TBH, I wouldn't buy. The performance is horrible...

Don't get me wrong, I loved OPF1 and liked ARMA1. But when I tried ARMA2 demo I found exactly the same development 'misstakes' and even more than what I saw in OPF1. Also, the performance was always a problem in OPF/ARMA series. Still today, we don't have all vehicles cockpit designed (like in some tanks), the animations when firing a weapon/reloading is pretty bad too. Sound is not cool...

But... The developers from BIS are very creative, the community is imense, with tons of addons, mod, anything you want... In my opinion, TBH, they just don't have a good tools/engine in their hands... They have the perfect idea, but executed that with a poor tools.

There isn't a game so detailed as ARMA1/2 and OPF1 are, but unfortunatelly it have tons of problems...

In the end, you can really enjoy the game, if you have time to expend... I say that because you will need more time tweaking and making the broken things to work than effectly playing the game... very frustrating...

I decided to not buy the game... But if by any reason they can fix the performance problem, I would buy the game.

[jw custom 56]

TBH, I wouldn't buy. The performance is horrible...

Well not for all.

I agree that ArmA 2 is really tough on your box and probably too tough, but a lot of people including myself is getting a good performance.

Sound is not cool...

Agree, but again the community is doing wonders, VopSound 2.1 is great and another one is in the works:

[Rancmeat 10]

It's one of the best games out there, but you MUST have a high tolerance for sub-par coding. This game has more bugs than a termite nest.

ARMA is all about what it might be at some point if they manage to get it release ready.

That said, it's a lot of fun between server crashes.

[sick1 13]

Buy the game then download my campaign or the other greatly scripted missions and have fun. Don't listen to the bug reporters. There is not one game that comes close to this. New players will often discourage buying it because they don't understand what this game is about. I have a X2 athlon 2.1 ghz and it runs fine for me.

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=87760

Edited October 17, 2009 by Sick1

[doogerie 10]

as everyone else has told you get the demo i got it and and at fist i thaught too hard not worth it ect but then oh nthen i tryed it a few days ag agane and finaly it all clicked in to place and now I love it I have orded it of Amazon iand am stitting here with bated breath.oh yeah if you are expecting a COD alike don't get it ti is totaly diffrent but if you wnat a really deep and difrent experienc get this.

[thales100 10]

Great game, the best out imo, get a trackIR and if possible a triple setup, thats endless fun with all mods.

[Alex72 1]

There is no game like this on the market. So if you want to be original - not lumped up with the rest of the sheeps - go ARMA2 and become a bad-boy.