FP : DR - News & Discussion

[ardvarkdb 104]

I believe (and hope) that armor system is true. I was really sad to see they pushed the demo back, I'm anxious to try this out.

[jblackrupert 14]

Seems the smaller the maps get the happier the OFP2 crowd gets..

Theres a new thread "Are you happy with the PvP box size limt ?"

Can't post the URL cause the proxy I'm using doesn't show it since

I'm banned for correcting lies.

I think maybe they should just change it to a text adventure like Zork

and then the kiddies over there will be completely orgasmic.

[von_paulus 0]

I think maybe they should just change it to a text adventure like Zork

and then the kiddies over there will be completely orgasmic.

Eheheheh!

Zork is a mark in computer gaming history, like Operation Flashpoint is.

I'm having serious doubts that this Dragon Rising will even be remembered in a couple of months.

[Clavicula_nox4817 0]

Seems the smaller the maps get the happier the OFP2 crowd gets..

Theres a new thread "Are you happy with the PvP box size limt ?"

Can't post the URL cause the proxy I'm using doesn't show it since

I'm banned for correcting lies.

I think maybe they should just change it to a text adventure like Zork

and then the kiddies over there will be completely orgasmic.

Yeah, I don't get it. I can fire up flashpoint now and use the entire island at any time. I can do the same with Armed Assault. The multiplayer restrictions are very disappointing. I also thought teams were going to be large, but 4 man teams is ridiculous. That isn't even a full sized infantry squad, it's not even half of a Marine infantry squad. Very disappointing.

I thought that I would at least give the game a chance, but I don't see how I can. Missions with time limits, asinine location, etc just guarantees that I won't. Have they answered why 3 nations would be fighting over this piddly island, yet? I wonder what their excuse is since the island is quite empty and devoid of...anything at all.

[walker 0]

Hi all

They never did the maths when they chose the engine. It is not possible to do that kind of physics in MP or large scale yet.

It was the choice of Ragdoll style physics.

I pointed it out many months back.

And from failure in choice of engine all else sprang.

Maybe in 5 to 10 years ragdoll style physics can be done on a larger scale but we will need Moore's Law to be surpassed for it to be in 5 years. As to MP LAN maybe but not over the internet not a chance, unless there is a serious change to the laws of physics, it will be long long time before you see ragdoll in an international scale MP game, as to intercontinetal forget it the speed of light tends to be a little unforgiving.

When you start a project you have to set a good foundation, build on a rickety foundation and you are on your way to epic fail.

As to this myth about radical streaming technology, it is not even in the same league as OFP never mind ArmA.

The worst of it is they have besmirched OFP in the process.

Regards walker

Edited September 19, 2009 by walker

[PeepsGetAngry 10]

Hi all

The worst of it is they have besmirched OFP in the process.

Regards walker

Yup, but that was their plan, milk the name destroy the brand.. End the fued.

Gonna be funny when they post the record losses on the title :)

I havnt seen a $1.99 title on Best Buys shelf in a long time, but the PC version of this game might break that stretch. It won't even be tested in this house.

[vasmkd 12]

Hehe

C'Mon guyz the game is awesome. Up to 4 player WOW it's UNBELIEVABLE

I ALMOST WET MY PANTS FROM EXCITEMENT :omg:

4 players that awesome, i still can't believe up2 4 can play this

sarcasm

[jblackrupert 14]

I'm sure they'll get lots of uninformed sales and do pretty well for awhile but reviews won't be good shortly after release just like Far Cry 2. lots of flashy sales pitches, lies and half-truths but word gets round soon enough that the game SUCKS.. and sale with go down.

Who knows, maybe Ubisoft will be impressed with the bait and switch sales tactics and buy them out.

Codemasters won't be seeing another dime from me for ANY of their games because of the lies. GRID was my last purchase, there ain't no way in hell I'm buying OFP2.

Dirt2 = NO SALE

GRID 2 = NO SALE

F1 = NO SALE

Might play them but I won't be purchasing them. :) Codemasters lie and cheat, so just giving them a nod....

Since they deleting posts and banning people posting to their Youtube channel

is the way to inform people about the lies surrounding the game.

http://www.youtube.com/user/CodemastersGames

---------- Post added at 10:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:15 PM ----------

Hehe

C'Mon guyz the game is awesome. Up to 4 player WOW it's UNBELIEVABLE

I ALMOST WET MY PANTS FROM EXCITEMENT :omg:

4 players that awesome, i still can't believe up2 4 can play this

sarcasm

First it was unlimited use of the map

then it was reduced to 4 x 4 sq km

now it''s been reduced to 2 x 2 sq km

Would you believe some doofus on there actually said

1 x 1 sq km would probably be better!?

Trust me, read that forum long enough and you'll see

just how much the OFP2 kiddies love being ripped off and used

by CM...... they're bloody masochists.

Thankfully there are a few longtime members there speaking out

and manage to avoid the ban hammer because of their number of posts

and seniority.

[Zipper5 74]

I can't believe the poll on their forums has 99 votes being happy with the size limit, and 99 votes saying that they aren't. :confused:

[Maddmatt 1]

I can't believe the poll on their forums has 99 votes being happy with the size limit, and 99 votes saying that they aren't. :confused:

Probably because most of them are used to games with small maps and think 2km is huge.

Anyway, I doubt the game allows enough units to make use of a bigger space...

[vasmkd 12]

99 who voted no are probably ex OFP players

The other 99 MW2 and other shooters

[dm 9]

To be honest, I'm quite dissappointed by all this.

Fanboy rage over the rape of the beloved OFP title aside, I was kinda looking forward to having another OFP-style game to play. The more the merrier, and a little competition never hurt anyone kinda thing. Sadly it seems we're getting yet another BF2/CoD clone to dilute the already pretty-well fished shooter pond.

Ho hum...

[SaBrE_UK 0]

All my thoughts have already been expressed by others; needless to say I'm not surprised but still disappointed. I won't be getting it, especially since I won't be able to try the demo for a good while to see if I like it...

[bangtail 0]

All my thoughts have already been expressed by others; needless to say I'm not surprised but still disappointed. I won't be getting it, especially since I won't be able to try the demo for a good while to see if I like it...

It's pretty simple.

All those people who play A2 for 10 minutes, bitch and complain and then proclaim DR's greatness while simultaneously announcing that they will never play A2 again never belonged here in the first place.

Then there are those who genuinely (and through no fault of their own) thought that DR was going to be an actual sequel to OFP. This was/is due to CM's entirely dishonest use of the franchise name.

Finally, there are those of us who knew from day 1 that this console based schlock was going to be just that. CM would never chance a project like OFP/Arma. That's just a simple case of dollars, deutschmark and pounds f**king sterling.

None of this surprises me and I am anxiously awaiting DR's release so that we will have the hard evidence to refute anyone who tries to compare DR to OFP, or for that matter, A1 or A2.

That is all,

Eth

Edited September 19, 2009 by BangTail

[Drongo69 117]

The way that the CM info release policy is going, I expect them to announce on the release day that OFP2 will blow up your computer, give you AIDS and damn your soul to hell.

Too bad, maybe with some actual competition, the OFP/ArmA series might have produced a successor.

[bogdanm 0]

The way that the CM info release policy is going, I expect them to announce on the release day that OFP2 will blow up your computer, give you AIDS and damn your soul to hell.

Now thats some funny stuff! But I feel the same, when the feature list for OFP: DR came out I thought it would be the perfect game, OFP/ARMA gameplay style with all those cool features BI missed, but since then every news article and video brought even more dissapointment. Its clear now that OFP: DR will not be the game they promised two years ago.

And those map limits are blasphemy. Invisible walls and OFP should not ever be used in the same article. Not to say that is just stupid to make one large map and than use 2x2km sectors. Instead they should have followed BF style and make individual maps and different environments. At least then they could have made a more interesting campaign story.

And now they are delaying the demo until after the release date... Well that will make me even more not to bother to give the game a shot. Seriously OFP: DR starts to look like a bad joke.

Anyway I can't say whether I'll buy the game or not, but it looks like a good candidate to replace BF2.

Edited September 19, 2009 by BogdanM

[Zipper5 74]

http://www.game.co.uk/lowdown.aspx?lid=12103

But... You... Can't... Hi -... Ho -... What... Eugh...

"Not a shooter for the run-and-gun arcade gamer."

"It can be harrowingly real at times."

Since he lists those as bad aspects of the game, that review is completely void.

[bangtail 0]

More from this "review" :

So the arrival of follow-up Dragon Rising for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 means there's plenty of reasons for your trigger finger to get itchy with excitement.[/Quote]

Even the reviewer is trying to make out that DR is the sequel to OFP.

How could it be anything like OFP when no one that was involved in the development of OFP has anything to do with DR?

The reviewer is obviously a console gamer so even a hint of realism is a revelation for him. It is an XCrock360/POS3 review after all.

Eth

Edited September 19, 2009 by BangTail

[froggyluv 2136]

From above review

Lead AI designer Clive Lindop says the production team interviewed British and American servicemen returning from Iraq and Afghanistan to tap into their experience of war and it shows. He believes this gives Dragon Rising the edge saying: "I believe it will give people at least a small appreciation for what our troops have to face in real combat

.

Me thought that the man was off the project :confused: How up to date are these reviewers?

[jblackrupert 14]

Here is a instructional video for playing OFP2 with the new map features

[Heatseeker 0]

How does one call in the arty using binoculars? I mean they have all that talk about unsurpassed realism and he just points a cursor at the ground thru the binoculars. What? :confused: .

The game is looking worse every time they reveal something new about it.. the engine seems good though, shame the designers come up with all those crappy ideas.

I just knew they were going to "consolise" this..

[4 IN 1 0]

really, how would any long time OFP fans be happy on what they saw:confused:

[jblackrupert 14]

the engine seems good though, shame the designers come up with all those crappy ideas.

It's the same engine as GRID but the reviews said theres problems with vehicles flipping over running over tiny rocks. same thing happens

in Arma II but the fact OFP2 is using an engine built for a driving game

makes it worse.

According to the forum it's the engine limits that are responsible

for the tether and usable area of a maps in MP being so small.

Of course that doesn't stop Codemasters from bullsh____g about

how their streaming technology is above and beyond anything created before.

I guess they're talking about 90's games or something...

[Hans Ludwig 0]

German podcast from PC Games

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380379

Hi all, just a short translation of my german overview. At the moment the german PC Games is testing the full version of OFP-DR. And they telling us some things out of the test. Looks like they only testing the SP, no words about MP. Here the link to the german podcast (maybe anyone wants to train his german skills *LoL*)

Positiv:

° Nice playing of OFP-DR, but it's not the announced "kick you out of the socks" game

° smooth playing (a bit to smooth, they finished the Campaign in 2 days)

° altogether bugfree (only exception, a few AI "blackouts", sometimes AI doesnt see you)

° great Inf battles (AI is acting very well)

° really good sound

° GFX looks good, but it doesnt looks like ArmA

Negativ:

° OFP-DR isnt a real OFP (it's not a Mil-Sim, just a Tactic-shooter, sorry to the old OFP veterans)

° AI cant drive a car (they dont use the road, they use the "direct" way, comment from subeditor: dont let drive the AI, drive yourselves !

° a lot missions are time-critical (so very often u have to repeat a mission)

° ammo "squeeze" ? (dont know the right word, there is not that much ammo availble)

° dead bodys disappear ? (not 100 % clear, becasue the subeditors has a smalltalk on this topic, maybe he only didnt find the dead body in the grass)

° only a few instructions available to command your AI in the quick command (but a lot of instructions regarding the ARI support)

° the animation of the soldiers is not that good (comment of the subeditor: Besen verschluckt, dont know the english interpretation of this *g*)

Last comment was, all in all it's a good game.

[vasmkd 12]

German podcast from PC Games

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380379

The replies from viiiper made me laugh there

If that guy believed 2+2=3 there is no way in hell anyone could correct him

Edited September 20, 2009 by vasmkd