THEKATZ 0 Posted November 23, 2009 It is the best for flying. Total cockpit view and surrounding sit-awareness. Imagine a sniper nice and tucked away near good cover. Being able to scan 180 degrees with out your whole character moving which is a dead giveaway! Honestly, your situational awareness is increased a bunch when using the TrackIR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
walker 0 Posted November 23, 2009 Hi all Once you use it, you can not not use it. Any other FPS without it feels crippled. Flying is great. Situational awareness on the ground goes up. In MP you can look around for the enemy without moving your body so your stealth goes up. You can also do a graduated lean which is such an advantage in CQB people accuse you of cheating. Kind Regards walker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jex =TE= 0 Posted November 23, 2009 Track IR is great, however you can pan your head around using the free look button and not move your body so that point is moot. Track IR makes looking around your environment effortless. It immerses you into your game more and after a while of using it (it can take some time to get used to), you'll never regret the purchase. Track IR is the equivalant of going from using a keyboard to fly a plane to using a joystick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeerHunter 0 Posted November 23, 2009 But don't you guys find it distracting to be looking around while your rifle is pointed in one direction and your head in another then trying to center your view to the sights when you want to fire? Using the free look button I can simply look around and when I want to sight something , turn it off and your view is automatically returned to the sights...without having to cough out $140.00 or so...though I wouldn't want to fly without it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmarkwick 261 Posted November 23, 2009 But don't you guys find it distracting to be looking around while your rifle is pointed in one direction and your head in another then trying to center your view to the sights when you want to fire? Like anything, it's something you get used to. I might ask the question don't you get fed up being unable to check a different direction without needing to use both a keypress and a mouse movement? Different strokes for different folks I guess, some like a hands free movement that is unconscious and intuitive, others like the switch between rigid view and mouse look. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andersson 285 Posted November 23, 2009 @BeerHunter. I had problems in the beginning, but after ~30 min I had no problem knowing where my gun is and where my body and head are. I play without crosshair and 100% freefloatzone. Its very natural for me now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THEKATZ 0 Posted November 23, 2009 Track IR is great, however you can pan your head around using the free look button and not move your body so that point is moot. Free look using a key to initiate? No so moot as you say when a mere look over the shoulder (a slight turn of the head for TIR) does not require yet another key to use. This is real handy for those of us that use the N52 or G13 game pads and have stepped away from the main keyboard. The graduated lean as stated before is a boon! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EDcase 87 Posted November 24, 2009 (edited) Certainly its most beneficial when flying. As soldier is good especially for leaning. (Interesting that I don't like using float zone) Definitely needs time to get used to but worth having if you have the money. (Perhaps TrackIR4 is better value?) Edited November 24, 2009 by EDcase Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gray1107 10 Posted November 24, 2009 But don't you guys find it distracting to be looking around while your rifle is pointed in one direction and your head in another then trying to center your view to the sights when you want to fire? All you do to center your view is relax your neck and bring your head back to a facing forward position. Everything is completely customisable, you can even enable/disable/center at the press of a key. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InFireBaptize 0 Posted November 24, 2009 WINDSOR, ON, CA 11/20/2009 4:19 A.M. PACKAGE DATA PROCESSED BY BROKERAGE. WAITING FOR CLEARANCE. My trackIR is stuck for clearance, hopefully it's not being tried by customs officer :-), can't wait to play arma2 and black shark with it :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildone_106 10 Posted November 24, 2009 Its AWESOME. I actually got motion sickness with it the first week or so but after that it wore off?!? (the brain is an amazing device!) and I wouldnt do without it. I even find myself turning my head without it on when Im playing at work thats kinda freeky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thirdup 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Heh, I don't know about the benefits but I know I damned sure can't play anything without it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpiritedMachine 10 Posted November 24, 2009 Its AWESOME. I actually got motion sickness with it the first week or so but after that it wore off?!? (the brain is an amazing device!) and I wouldnt do without it. I even find myself turning my head without it on when Im playing at work thats kinda freeky Freaky that you continue to turn your head when not wearing the device? I find it more freaky that you're playing Arma at work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THEKATZ 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Funny above. Hey! I am work what server you on LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussieterry84 10 Posted November 25, 2009 MUST HAVE FOR ARMA II!!!! I won't play unless i have my TRACKIR on! It helps incredibly when ur flying, u can easily and smoothly track a bogey in the air! when ur flying a bird u can look around n make sure the landing is clear! I love using it when im on foot to as it really boosts the IMMERSION factor a shitload! Seriously dude if u can get it! then do so! make it happen! Im using Trackir4 so if u low on cash even get Trackir4 if u cant afford 5!!! works fine! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJF 0 Posted November 25, 2009 MUST HAVE FOR ARMA II!!!!I won't play unless i have my TRACKIR on! It helps incredibly when ur flying, u can easily and smoothly track a bogey in the air! when ur flying a bird u can look around n make sure the landing is clear! I love using it when im on foot to as it really boosts the IMMERSION factor a shitload! Seriously dude if u can get it! then do so! make it happen! Im using Trackir4 so if u low on cash even get Trackir4 if u cant afford 5!!! works fine! So ... many ... exclamation ... marks! You've used more than one for each sentence, that's epic :D I've got to get one, but they're so expensive :( $300 once I get it to AUS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
james mckenzie-smith 1 Posted November 25, 2009 I have TrackIR, and tried it with ArmA2. Can't say that I am still using it. Free look with the mouse is good enough for the odd glance around, and anyway, I operate under the philosophy that, if something is worth looking at, it's worth looking at down the barrell of my rifle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LJF 0 Posted November 25, 2009 ... I operate under the philosophy that, if something is worth looking at, it's worth looking at down the barrell of my rifle. Haha :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lt.chris 0 Posted November 25, 2009 personally i really hate it and find it too awkard for being on foot becuase of the awkardness of it (maybe ive not used it enough on foot i dont know) but for flying and driving vehicles its pretty useful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gray1107 10 Posted November 25, 2009 It does take some to get it configured just right to give it that natural feel. I also find myself trying to look around when playing other games, it's like having a missing limb or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jex =TE= 0 Posted November 25, 2009 Free look using a key to initiate? No so moot as you say when a mere look over the shoulder (a slight turn of the head for TIR) does not require yet another key to use.This is real handy for those of us that use the N52 or G13 game pads and have stepped away from the main keyboard. The graduated lean as stated before is a boon! I was responding to your post 2 above mine. You don't have to move your whole body without track ir because you can use freelook so your point is still moot ;) ---------- Post added at 04:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:23 PM ---------- I have TrackIR, and tried it with ArmA2. Can't say that I am still using it. Free look with the mouse is good enough for the odd glance around, and anyway, I operate under the philosophy that, if something is worth looking at, it's worth looking at down the barrell of my rifle. This should be how everybody looks if on patrol in enemy territory. You always look down the barrel, that way your always ready to fire. This is the realistic way of doing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InFireBaptize 0 Posted December 4, 2009 I need you help; I'm new to trackIR and it got me frustrated; I tend to move a lot while gaming and in arma2 if you do that it means that you're leaning a lot in the game without noticing it! 1) how to avoid that? 2) do you centre the camera like in my case every freaking seconds? 3) do you apply deadzone on leaning! i have disabled Z and i'm thinking if there is no good solution to above might as well disable trackIR leaning feature but tried yesterday disabling Roll and it didn't work? 4) what profile are you using? i have downloaded Seth-FPS, i like it but again i have big problem with leaning. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr_centipede 31 Posted December 4, 2009 1. You need to play around with the software, get to know it, and soon you will find the curves that suits you. Here's a tip: The X axis is how much you move your head IRL. The Y axis is how much the view moves in correlation to your head. With that in mind, you can adjust accordingly the setting to suit your preferences 2. There is a hot key default is F12 I think. You can change this too. I set mine as ALT+Num 5 3. Leaning is X not Roll 4. My very own profile. Adjusted to my needs Just a bit like ARMA, you really need to tweaks for weeks ( just taking a line for our infamous Ode to Bohemia song) There is also a manual on how to use the software... I use the version 5 software with TIR4 pro... just got it yesterday :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
InFireBaptize 0 Posted December 4, 2009 (edited) 1. You need to play around with the software, get to know it, and soon you will find the curves that suits you. Here's a tip: The X axis is how much you move your head IRL. The Y axis is how much the view moves in correlation to your head. With that in mind, you can adjust accordingly the setting to suit your preferences2. There is a hot key default is F12 I think. You can change this too. I set mine as ALT+Num 5 3. Leaning is X not Roll 4. My very own profile. Adjusted to my needs Just a bit like ARMA, you really need to tweaks for weeks ( just taking a line for our infamous Ode to Bohemia song) There is also a manual on how to use the software... I use the version 5 software with TIR4 pro... just got it yesterday :) thank you Mr., i'm going through the manual one more time. update: Mr. Check this link, leaning is the Roll :-) http://www.voodoo-world.cz/falcon/O208.JPG So basically i have to select roll and adjust the value of Y Holy Jesus, i got it! it's the freaking Y value for creating deadzone. i'm not getting the x value though! Hmmm, based on the manual each one degree of movement = 1 cm of head movement on the x. What can i do with the points on the x-axis rather than adjusting y at various points of head movement? Edited December 4, 2009 by InFireBaptize Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THEKATZ 0 Posted December 4, 2009 I was responding to your post 2 above mine. You don't have to move your whole body without track ir because you can use freelook so your point is still moot ;) Thank you Jex, My point was "Yet another key to use..." Yes, a simple use of another key will afford you the free look, you can even toggle it OR simply turn your head slightly and go about your business. It is a matter of preference really, do you want to fumble with another key or play this game as realistically as possible being it is a sim? Too expensive? Try this alternative http://www.cachya.com/esight/overview.php - Uses a webcam and from what I have read works as well as the TIR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites