AI has rayvision?

[Taurus 20]

I lay down in the grass.

Behind a bush.

Can't see crap.

I get shot in the head by a AI soldier with a AK74 who is 200+ meters in front of me.

This also applies to night missions...

GFG...

I was really hoping the AI in ArmA "not to see" as good as they did in OFP, but I was wrong apparently...

Is there a way of decreasing their "visual range"?

Or making the grass which is in your eyes itching, itching the eys of the AI too?

[Big Dawg KS 6]

I dunno about you but I can see perfectly fine at 200m... why shouldn't AI?

[Taurus 20]

I dunno about you but I can see perfectly fine at 200m... why shouldn't AI?

you are telling me that you can see enemy units hiding behind bushes?

Well I can't

Not to mention to hit something at 200 meters with your normal iron sights.

A soldier who is prone is a 1/4 target and hitting those at ranges over 200 meters...

This @##$% also applies to night.

Regular AI soldiers without NV-goggles can fire at others far away too.

Obviously night doesn't affect AI either...

[Big Dawg KS 6]

I dunno about you but I can see perfectly fine at 200m... why shouldn't AI?

This @##$% also applies to night.

Regular AI soldiers without NV-goggles can fire at others far away too.

Obviously night doesn't affect AI either...

You must be playin a different game because the AI I've seen can't see shit at night without NVGs. That's not including known enemies however... don't expect them to lose sight of you if they see you fire. Hiding behind a bush won't make them forget about you either. If they've already seen you then of course they'll watch you and know where you are.

[Martin_BM 0]

Quote[/b] ]I dunno about you but I can see perfectly fine at 200m... why shouldn't AI?

See yes but shooting from AK's ironsigts at 200+ distance is very very hard because at 200m front ironsight is covering full human size target Ofc experienced shooter can shoot efficiently at this distance but he must be good

Sry for my English

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I mean in RL

[oyman 0]

It's just as easy to shoot them in the head from 200m when the AI is in a bush. :l

[0wl 0]

I have heard that the AI "problem" has been adressed and will be corrected/fixed in due time...

[mattxr 9]

I dunno about you but I can see perfectly fine at 200m... why shouldn't AI?

This @##$% also applies to night.

Regular AI soldiers without NV-goggles can fire at others far away too.

Obviously night doesn't affect AI either...

You must be playin a different game because the AI I've seen can't see shit at night without NVGs. That's not including known enemies however... don't expect them to lose sight of you if they see you fire. Hiding behind a bush won't make them forget about you either. If they've already seen you then of course they'll watch you and know where you are.

i got shot though some bushes not once, not twice but THREE times in a MP mission yesterday i was well p off lol.

but it wsa all fnu in teh edn.

[walker 0]

Hi All

With regard to the BF2 l33t whiners complaining about bots with X-Ray eyes and mentioning no names

BF2 fans are sub-slug-Rambo's worth nothing more than being a mobile tin duck fairground shooting range for the ArmA AI.

You have only got to see how many BF2 fans moan about AI shooting them when they run and hide behind or in a bush or behind a fence "So they must have XRAY Eyes!"

Quit your BF2 l33t whining; humans shoot you behind bushes and trees and so do ArmA AI and for the same reason. When caught and seen in the open or when giving away your position away by firing, running to the nearest patch of trees and sticking your head, ostrich like, behind a tree/bush does not concealment make. Mummy and Daddy or your Guardians, should have taught you this after the first few games of peek-a-boo.

There is however an argument for saying the AIs hearing is a little too good and BIS will probably reduce it in the next patch.

If you are finding the AI too frightening. You can alter the AI by the following actions:

Make a copy of the file named:

My Documents/(ArmA or ArmA other profiles)/username/username.ArmAProfile

That is your backup! Keep it somewhere safe!

Now open your original ArmA Profile in Notepad and look for this section:

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">

skillFriendly=0.850000;

skillEnemy=0.600000;

precisionFriendly=0.850000;

precisionEnemy=0.600000;

Experiment sensibly

AI in ArmA is second to none. They are bright enough that if they see you run toward some trees or bushes same as human would they will shoot up the trees. Bushes do not stop bullets you numptys.

Because the AI know a wooden fence or cinder block wall or fence or tree is not sufficient to stop an assault rifle or MG they will also shoot through any cover they think insufficient to protect you just the same as any human who is not a numpty will do.

The AI will also lob grenades or shoot rifle grenades on to Roofs where they have seen you hide. They will also fire RPGs at you. They will also flank you and move in bounds when acting as a group. They will also look for and use cover even reloading in cover.

Beware ArmA AI are not BF2 Player Numptys. If you have been playing BF2 against other BF2ers I am sorry but you are in for a rude awakening.

Kind Regards walker

[ArmaVidz 0]

[celery 8]

Battlefield 2!!!

But the AI does have infrared ultraviolet vision and aimbot!

[-DirTyDeeDs--Ziggy- 0]

There is no need to slam BF2 players here. give it a rest.

Too hasty to judge, methinks. That is a weakness of character.

[rundll.exe 12]

I fully agree that all weapons should have alot more dispersion. You cant hit a target with an AK in 2 shots with 300-400 m range

[FCF Bad Karma 0]

Now open your original ArmA Profile in Notepad and look for this section:

<table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tr><td>Code Sample </td></tr><tr><td id="CODE">

skillFriendly=0.850000;

skillEnemy=0.600000;

precisionFriendly=0.850000;

precisionEnemy=0.600000;

Or you could just go into the ingame options, set the difficulty to custom and adjust the slider bars to your liking.

[Taurus 20]

Hi All

With regard to the BF2 l33t whiners complaining about bots with X-Ray eyes and mentioning no names

Never played BF2 you hat!

And lecture me of what can and can not be done with an assault rifle please...

[TheReddog 0]

He's right about the AI, on that mission in the campaign where you are attacking their landing force I got shot from far off and watched the camera track back through a big clump bushes, a couple of clumps of threes and over the ridge on the water where the AI who shot me was crouched with long grass in front of him. There was no way he could see me and it wasn't random fire either it was an aimed burst that killed me.

Same thing in the first sabotage mission where you are trying to destroy the armor at night, I crawled prone onto a little hill to look at their base and as soon as I came over every bloody AI saw me instantly and lit me up, none of them had NVG's either.

Both of these instances were with the AI at Veteran levels, so I turned the difficulty down and it somewhat fixed it but they still pull crazy shit off sometimes.

I neither play BF2 or any other arcade crap, and sticking your head in the sand and flaming some guy about how he's a BF2 kid isn't going to make the problem go away nor does it make you look anything but a complete arsehole walker.

[froggyluv 2136]

I think the real problem is the AI SEEMS to hit you with one shot behind that bush 200 meters away as if it's nothing. If the AI saw you go behind that bush, why wouldn't he shoot that bush? I've had plenty of PVP situations where a guy thinks he's being sneaky hiding behind a bush and i take him out quickly, usually with 1-2 shots.

[Big Dawg KS 6]

TheReddog, I think there's something else going on that may have caused that, because I've NEVER witnessed behavour like that. It's certainly not normal AI behavour though.

[Silvio Camolesi 0]

There are three types of people populating here:

BF2 fans, OFP fans, and GOOD SENSE PEOPLE, that for God blessing is the majority.

For blinded OFPs fans, BF2 players are the hell, they have no voice, no reason. They are retarded kids with 3 years, and use to eat ice-creams with their ears!

I never played BF2, I have no interest in it, I'm a big, enourmous fan of OFP, but I fit in that third group, the GOOD SENSE people.

And I'm very upset with people that simply think that who has complains is a moan, and EVERY SINGLE FORUM, of every single game, on every place around the world, always will have people who judge itself as owner of the all reasons, owner of the forum voices, and in the most of the cases, people like that are always in the foruns to protect the game against everything, against who complain, against who has critics, agains the aliens!!!

They are the deffenders of the game, cause the game is perfect and no one who criticize the game has reason, never!!!

They act like guard dogs, believing that they are giving a BIG support to the game, to the devs, and to the community.

BUT THEY ARE NOT!

Comon, this game has so many bugs and so many lacks that the devs not even are able to follow them a single forum.: they need a track bug system to organize so much complains.

They are fixing and patching everything since the release, and they have still too much work to do, and one of the important things is this super natural skill from the AIs.

For me no matter that I have options or how to edit a file, cause I want to play against defaults AIs that fight in a life-like level.

I don't want any cheat or arrangement, cause if I start changing the game definitions, soon I will be playing other game, but not ArmA!!!

The game can't be perfect, cause it is impossible, but must intend to perfection.

If there is so much complain, it is not weep, it is a fact, and that must to be said, cause the devs must to listen to the community, and work on those things that can kill the game!

So, the problem exists, and it is a hudge problem that many times pissed the people off, and please OFP fans, let us complain.

Do you love OFP? I do love too!

[twisted 128]

earilier AI was a bit too accurate and all-seeing at times (not always).

but the new beta patch sorted that out for me.

[Iroquois Pliskin 0]

AI is fine, you should play berzerk mode and experience suppressing fire from 3 positions while being behind a truck and eventually once of the bullets ricochets and hits you in the nutsack, and then, of course you will be heading back to BF2.  

[kestrel7e7 0]

You're right walker, ArmA AI is smarter than real humans, ArmA vehicles are superior to real life vehicles, ArmA avatar movement is better than real human movement and ArmA graphics are better than real life.      

[Clavicula_nox4817 0]

You're right walker, ArmA AI is smarter than real humans, ArmA vehicles are superior to real life vehicles, ArmA avatar movement is better than real human movement and ArmA graphics are better than real life.      

Yeah, because that's what he said, right? If you're going to employ sarcasm, at least use it in a way that actually goes off of what the person said and not some random fanciful make-believe scenario.

[4 IN 1 0]

There are three types of people populating here:

BF2 fans, OFP fans, and GOOD SENSE PEOPLE, that for God blessing is the majority.

For blinded OFPs fans, BF2 players are the hell, they have no voice, no reason. They are retarded kids with 3 years, and use to eat ice-creams with their ears!

I never played BF2, I have no interest in it, I'm a big, enourmous fan of OFP, but I fit in that third group, the GOOD SENSE people.

And I'm very upset with people that simply think that who has complains is a moan, and EVERY SINGLE FORUM, of every single game, on every place around the world, always will have people who judge itself as owner of the all reasons, owner of the forum voices, and in the most of the cases, people like that are always in the foruns to protect the game against everything, against who complain, against who has critics, agains the aliens!!!

They are the deffenders of the game, cause the game is perfect and no one who criticize the game has reason, never!!!

They act like guard dogs, believing that they are giving a BIG support to the game, to the devs, and to the community.

BUT THEY ARE NOT!

Comon, this game has so many bugs and so many lacks that the devs not even are able to follow them a single forum.: they need a track bug system to organize so much complains.

They are fixing and patching everything since the release, and they have still too much work to do, and one of the important things is this super natural skill from the AIs.

For me no matter that I have options or how to edit a file, cause I want to play against defaults AIs that fight in a life-like level.

I don't want any cheat or arrangement, cause if I start changing the game definitions, soon I will be playing other game, but not ArmA!!!

The game can't be perfect, cause it is impossible, but must intend to perfection.

If there is so much complain, it is not weep, it is a fact, and that must to be said, cause the devs must to listen to the community, and work on those things that can kill the game!

So, the problem exists, and it is a hudge problem that many times pissed the people off, and please OFP fans, let us complain.

Do you love OFP? I do love too!

i agree that the ppl should not bitch another games that they dont like, but i disagree the points that setting up BTS and stuff malarkey, simply put, be gladed that this game get released and BI are not out of business as its a now or never.

back on topic, NO! the AI is not perfect, sometime they will act like they have a IQ of 69 and know dumbshit about whats going on, and sometime they acts like 200 that they predicted every single movement you made and put a bullet of death right in your head, but BI keep improving them(your chance of getting out of a firefight is more in 1.07 then you used to be in say...... 1.02.

also AI is only the very basic of a complex mission, what the AI will do, and how they do it, and if possible, how realistic they will react, is up to scripters and mission makers, by using the well writen product of scripters, its the job for mission makers to make the AIs to do the job and creat an intensive yet fun mission.

sounds easy, but no its not, and i will never think its a easy job to creat a mission or creat a good suppressive fire script(hats down to them), but its not impossible.

[kestrel7e7 0]

You're right walker, ArmA AI is smarter than real humans, ArmA vehicles are superior to real life vehicles, ArmA avatar movement is better than real human movement and ArmA graphics are better than real life.      

Yeah, because that's what he said, right? If you're going to employ sarcasm, at least use it in a way that actually goes off of what the person said and not some random fanciful make-believe scenario.

Beware ArmA AI are not BF2 Player Numptys. If you have been playing BF2 against other BF2ers I am sorry but you are in for a rude awakening.

The first point about AI is exactly what he said, crazy but true.