Evolution V1.0 Large scale respawn coop

max power · May 18, 2005

I must say that I dislike the idea of taking one town at a time in the extreme. As it is now, you clear the way so you have room to move around. If the island was a vast wasteland it would make even less sense than soldiers not behaving in "an orderly fashion" as some poster above insists. I think what you are doing right now is fine- well, better than fine. Your mission is great. Streaming it down to a series of towns where you're forced to do one thing after another would really upset the experience.

satexas69 · February 24, 2007

I must say that I dislike the idea of taking one town at a time in the extreme. Â As it is now, you clear the way so you have room to move around. Â If the island was a vast wasteland it would make even less sense than soldiers not behaving in "an orderly fashion" as some poster above insists. Â I think what you are doing right now is fine- well, better than fine. Â Your mission is great. Â Streaming it down to a series of towns where you're forced to do one thing after another would really upset the experience.

Exactly what room do you need?

If he has you "clear the towns" in a certain order:

1. Paraiso (one by the airport)

2. The one below Paraiso (also near airport)

Then at that point, why would you need to be anywhere else?

Then..

3. Corazel (the bridge city, where there's a huge place to have your armor cache, including repair trucks and such exist there.

... then what's the problem with him having you work orgego and down thru the south, then back up to the bridge city to work your way on the north part of the map?

Seriously, why are you inconvienced on not having the ability to have stuff in the extreme city like PITA when your doing say, Corazel?

Can you give me a reasonable example, or are you more just reacting to the thought of it?

-Puma- · July 11, 2001

)rStrangelove @ May 01 2007,00:45)]I really like the idea of 'forcing' ppl to clear just ONE city at a time. You should def do that, hopefully for the next update.
The 'vehicle retrieval' part is something that let to some really interesting 'side-missions' on the 6th sense servers lately, we had large groups of players going after valuable things like crashed choppers or stranded armored vehicles. Usually you need a repair truck, a fuel truck and a AAir vehicle for an effective 'retrieval convoy' and the journey lead us deep into enemy territory. Really cool experience and it wasn't forced or planned, it just happened because those choppers were needed.

There were discussions about what could've happened if those crashed UH60 FFAR would've exploded and therefore lost forever. How about offering a special mission in the mission HQ building to get a new one? Maybe just some 'fly UH60 through enemy lines back home' or soemthing more complicated like 'seize remote airfield and retrieve stolen UH60 chopper'. Would be cool if ppl need to work to get vehicles back that were wrecked during the battle.

Another thing (dunno if it was mentioned yet):

I made several attack runs in an AH6, but the landing pad in the western part of the airbase stoppped rearming me after some time. Can you enhance that time period, or better - have that landing pad offering unlimited supplies?

addition to this could be seize airport mission, or seize armor base. When completed succesfuly, u could get all the OPFOR armor, and/or air assets, if u of course manage not to destroy em..

this misssion should be hard, with lots of enemy, so that 1 man with 4 AI couldn do it.

these bases could then become FARPS, but with armor and/or air assets, and would give a nice foothold in north sahrani. Of course these bases could be recaptured by Ai so defence, must be set. These bases should give a nice aid to actually finish the mission

FunkDooBiesT · April 24, 2007

Howdy All, Could we please Seperate the sugestions from the bug reports or summin, I'd like to help Kiljoy identify bugs in the mission releases.

Now this is hard to do as people are mostlikely distracting Kiljoy from what he's busy fixing, Please start another thread for the suggestions and keep this one for Bug reports.

or just start two new ones.

@kiljoy, As we've got no server admin at this point we are still on V1.4e, and we almost finished the mission with only two city's left. however a restart was voted.

The only thing I could identify as a big bug with a cripiling effect is to retrieve Aircraft Planes not choppers. They just don't have the movements nessesary to get them out safely or aligned to drive em out. really need to add some kind of crane or towing devices. I'd say one air and one land to retrieve the craft so that it could be repaired at base.

These retrieving units must please only be able to lift and transport the damaged craft not repair it. I say this cuz if they could repair, arm and fuel then you'll be running after them like crazy when all you really need is to retrieve the damaged craft and return it to base.

If they are damaged or left on the field then they should not Respawn at base other wise they will be used carelessly also the normal repairing means would be enouph to get them back to base if they are crashed, destroyed or left on the field.

And yes I do realize that i'm making a suggestion in a thread that should be for bug reports, how ever this is one vital part that seems to be lacking, therefor I recon it's a bug

Also if you don't mind having the suggestions with the bug's then just keep this one open and going.

KilJoy -SFG- · February 21, 2007

I appreciate all your feedback. I prefer if it all just stays in the one thread cause i dont want to have to flick around the fourms. Or spam the fourm with new threads. At the moment Im playing a fair bit to. As 1.5a is nice and stable it gives me a bit of time to gather up all the bugs I have a list of 20 now. I also want to see what difference arma 1.06 makes before I fix bugs that might fix themselves.

Taxidriver · December 24, 2006

)rStrangelove @ April 30 2007,16:41)]Yeah, i got the same problem exactly.
After the loading screen i'm supposed to see the green 'sending data' screen, but instead nothing happens exept i'm teleported underwater(in the background).

Those infamous 'didn't receive a message in x seconds' pop up, my router gets pinged massively from the internet and i get kicked out (maybe some DDos feature built in to safe me, dunno).

Switching router/PC on and off DOES NOT help at all, i had the same problem 10 times in a row.

I had some good results lately with the following:

- return to the MP screen by pressing ESC

- keep clicking 'refresh' to get info from MP servers (your router will be reconnected after some minutes)

- connect to the same server directly from the server screen

- wait & cross fingers

Helped for me, but i dunno if it was a random result or not...

The mission is my fav drug atm, i can't get away from it - nice work indeed.

Thanks for the suggestion I'll try it.

@ April 30 2007,19:31)]@])rStrangelove & Taxidriver I have no idea how I could terminate your net connection through using a script command. Have you made a post about this in the support fourm? If not please do.

Well not completely sure if Evolution itself terminates my connection. I'm under impression it somehow triggers ArmA to do so. Anyways I'll see if it still happens with the next patch and if so I'll make a post in the support forums.

Thanks.

shiner · January 16, 2007

I know this data storage tool was mentioned before, but has anyone attempted to use it to simply write the packed scores to a file?

http://www.armedassault.eu/forum/viewforum.php?forum_id=35

Ideally there would be a script that every interval (say 15 minutes) that wrote the packed scores to a file. Then all you would need on a mission start is have a script that looked for the file and if found loaded the "saved" scores.

Bingo, you have persistence beyond mission completion, resets, restarts and server crashes. In our servers case we have some people that will play 9 hours a day and always be in a cobra, and others that play less than an hour a day and never get to fly. Having a solution like this would allow the casual players to achieve ranks. I would imagine we would put a cron job in-place to delete the file contents at a set interval (perhaps weekly).

Lynce · November 23, 2006

I am going to post a few sugestions since i like this mission very much. It remindes me ww2ol sometimes, so PLEASE keep the freedom because thats why it is so popular.

-the missions should be replaced by adding a few extras to main goal.

Lets say half the enemy troops in one city is wasted, they call reinforcements and a truck/apc/tank convoy (which is now a mission type) starts rolling towards that city to reinforce it.

Already more or less expecting this a few players move to intercept the convoy and assure their mates dont get extra trouble.

Lets say our tanks are having problems with enemy air. An SF group goes to enemy airfield to destroy helis/AC. This should decrease the number of air patrols and make roads safer for our own convoys/supply trucks/etc.

-i think it would be interesting if we had to capture the airfield where our base currently is.

Then start the war from there. Boats arent used much and in the beginning we could have loads of ppl disembarking on the shore to take the AF and increasing the fun by adding a late night/dawn all inf mission. Not sure if possible though.

-Everyone that plays this mission has addons in mind. Well almost everyone. The only way for them to be there is is u put them there.

Some dont want them, i understand but playing the same hummers/MH-6 gets old.

There should be a way to let server owners specify and run this missions with diferent units/weapons.

The Harrier and the Su should be replaced apaches and hinds. Im sure a lot of ppl would like to have this units to play with instead of the jets. They are easier to retrieve as well.

-someone put up a picture of the franzisca tank transport. It would be awsome to transport damaged vehicles to farps or reinforce the attack with fresh M1s. Think about it.

-when u can make opfor/independent mission too

Overall very good job m8. Thx

klaushonold · November 25, 2006

can you make this map for singleplayer??

is this possible?

i want save the game because to big map to play it alone in 1 day

i want play this map alone when i have no internetconnect

Torval · February 19, 2004

dude, just go to multiplayer and create a LAN game.

murkz · June 3, 2002

I know this data storage tool was mentioned before, but has anyone attempted to use it to simply write the packed scores to a file?
http://www.armedassault.eu/forum/viewforum.php?forum_id=35

Ideally there would be a script that every interval (say 15 minutes) that wrote the packed scores to a file. Then all you would need on a mission start is have a script that looked for the file and if found loaded the "saved" scores.

Bingo, you have persistence beyond mission completion, resets, restarts and server crashes. In our servers case we have some people that will play 9 hours a day and always be in a cobra, and others that play less than an hour a day and never get to fly. Having a solution like this would allow the casual players to achieve ranks. I would imagine we would put a cron job in-place to delete the file contents at a set interval (perhaps weekly).

This sounds like a great idea. Does that also mean if I play off line it would save my progress

Control · January 15, 2007

Yesterday was an amazing day but with a bitter ending. My server was running 1.5a for about 5 hours, only Eponia, Masbete and Pita was left to take..... great game!

But then my client-PC CTD and the server about 1 second later. I'll find the relevant files/info and will post them tonight.

stobbsy · February 12, 2003

I am going to post a few sugestions since i like this mission very much. It remindes me ww2ol sometimes, so PLEASE keep the freedom because thats why it is so popular.
-the missions should be replaced by adding a few extras to main goal.

Lets say half the enemy troops in one city is wasted, they call reinforcements and a truck/apc/tank convoy (which is now a mission type) starts rolling towards that city to reinforce it.

Already more or less expecting this a few players move to intercept the convoy and assure their mates dont get extra trouble.

Lets say our tanks are having problems with enemy air. An SF group goes to enemy airfield to destroy helis/AC. This should decrease the number of air patrols and make roads safer for our own convoys/supply trucks/etc.

-i think it would be interesting if we had to capture the airfield where our base currently is.

Then start the war from there. Boats arent used much and in the beginning we could have loads of ppl disembarking on the shore to take the AF and increasing the fun by adding a late night/dawn all inf mission. Not sure if possible though.

-Everyone that plays this mission has addons in mind. Well almost everyone. The only way for them to be there is is u put them there.

Some dont want them, i understand but playing the same hummers/MH-6 gets old.

There should be a way to let server owners specify and run this missions with diferent units/weapons.

The Harrier and the Su should be replaced apaches and hinds. Im sure a lot of ppl would like to have this units to play with instead of the jets. They are easier to retrieve as well.

-someone put up a picture of the franzisca tank transport. It would be awsome to transport damaged vehicles to farps or reinforce the attack with fresh M1s. Think about it.

-when u can make opfor/independent mission too

Overall very good job m8. Thx

- Some people rather do the side missions instead of clearing the towns. This is what makes Evolution so great and different that it is so open and people can do what they want.

- The trouble with dedicated servers and addons is that people cant just connect to a server (in the ingame screen) and play. They have to download addons and then play. The trouble with this is that every time someone tries to connect and disconnects its takes server resources up. Also people have to spend time looking around for addons needed instead of just playing.

PaveQ · March 25, 2007

@ April 30 2007,22:57)]groups would be deleted back to one unit, but it causes client crashes if you delete enemy men type units in any number. Some sort of arma bug.

Maybe this helps:

1.07 - Fixed MP crash sometimes happened after deleteVehicle on some person

Control · January 15, 2007

Klientside .rpt:

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Date: 05/01/07 Â Time: 22:18:04

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Control · January 15, 2007

Serverside .rpt:

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