Children

[AntonVonE 0]

I remember reading yesterday that somone was working on children, but I can't seem to find the topic. Does anyone know where it is?

Anton

[pang 0]

WTF?!?

for fucks sake, why does anyone need children in a wargame?

[mr burns 132]

wtf ... for what are kid soldiers needed ??

but i agree with you...this is probably too realistic for ofp

[pang 0]

i think it´s closer to sadistic then to realistic

anyone requesting or modeling a child for a killing- related game has a major screw loose.

something like that really pisses me off

[Gollum1 0]

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, I don't care how realistic it is!

Just forget about it!

[mr burns 132]

this point of view seems 100% right to me but it´s not the 1. time that moddeling of kids is taken into consideration....and for the last time i read about it i don´t remember anyone disliking it

[DracoPaladore 0]

Personally, I would like some sort of child. Maybe invincible. I think the best use for it would be cut scenes and intro's as well as for screenshows. Not to blow up, though. Probobly be best for more atmosphere and maybe a touch of innocence to the situation at hand.

[The Frenchman 0]

Personally, I would like some sort of child. Maybe invincible.

Like the child unit in Empire Earth that can survive 14 nukes?

[Supah 0]

On one hand i understand peoples reservations on the other hand should you sanitize the view people get of war? War is horrible and child soldiers are wrong. But it does happen. To portray war in anyway different then its true brutal reality could also be called wrong. Besides, some of the rebels in the tonal pack dont seem like 18 too me.

On the civilian non combattant side this would make more sence to have them (along with senior citizens) OFP populations now are all 20 - 40 looking. which isnt realistic either.

[DracoPaladore 0]

Personally, I would like some sort of child. Maybe invincible.

Like the child unit in Empire Earth that can survive 14 nukes?    

No. To prevent from the real whacko's from making a "Child hunt" mission.

Not only that, the idea of having a child model could make a hostage rescue missions.

[Gollum1 0]

Personally, I would like some sort of child. Maybe invincible. I think the best use for it would be cut scenes and intro's as well as for screenshows. Not to blow up, though. Probobly be best for more atmosphere and maybe a touch of innocence to the situation at hand.

Invincible? I guess that would be OK, I just recalled some debates about wether or not child soldiers should be made.

On one hand i understand peoples reservations on the other hand should you sanitize the view people get of war? War is horrible and child soldiers are wrong. But it does happen. To portray war in anyway different then its true brutal reality could also be called wrong. Besides, some of the rebels in the tonal pack dont seem like 18 too me.

I can follow your reasoning, but OFP is still a game. You know? If you think about it, is it good to expose people to the real "horrors of war"?

And I've always been worried about the same "child hunt" missions as Dracopaladore.

[Supah 0]

I can follow your reasoning, but OFP is still a game. You know? If you think about it, is it good to expose people to the real "horrors of war"?

And I've always been worried about the same "child hunt" missions as Dracopaladore.

OFP is part of "media" As is CNN which apparently taught a load of youngster during the first gulf war that war was a costless affair that involved jets dropping smart bombs on buildings and noone dies We all know that wasnt true.

I wont be making a child addon, i have my reservations too. But we cant stop anyone else from making one. I think a civilian minor addon would be "Acceptable". If someone makes a "child hunt" mission then its not the addon maker at fault but the sicko making and or playing the mission IMO.

[frk19732001 0]

personally i find this idea very disturbing for having seeing war

and civilian casualities and alot of them were children i dislike this idea i've been in bosnia and central africa before being deployed to rwanda where even kids were slaughtered i still have nightmares about it so i disagree with this idea so if you do it i wont download it

[miles teg 1]

I agree. I think a child addon is fine. Yes there will be sickos doing sick stuff with them, but they are already doing that with female addons and the females put in the game by BIS.

Children however are always present in war and they may serve as a sobering reminder to what can happen if you blatantly blast away at a town with your M1 tank or with with your grenade launcher. If that's too much for someone to stomache, they don't have to download such addons or play missions made with those addons.

But children (alive and dead) are part of war because they are part of humanity. THey also very often take up arms and become soldiers through force or by choice.

For real soldiers using OFP as a training aid, having a child addon can also serve as a useful training aid on how to avoid civilian casualties.

Chris G.

aka-Miles Teg<GD>

[GoOB 0]

I wouldn't have anything against a child addon either, aslong as the demo mission isn't a slaughter the population of a village mission. For an example I had a wonderful idea for a cutscene mission on Tonal as a kind of "Give children a chance" promo thingie featuring a Tonali child being thrown in to the turmoil of war. I even had a story board and everything with dodgy sketches and things like that

[Heatseeker 0]

Personally, I would like some sort of child. Maybe invincible. I think the best use for it would be cut scenes and intro's as well as for screenshows. Not to blow up, though. Probobly be best for more atmosphere and maybe a touch of innocence to the situation at hand.

Theres a decent reply, i agree with the undestroyable children, has is the game is becoming a death fest and we mostly see new killing "toys" being released. New guns, new tanks, new bombs... and some addons are very realistic. We should have a reminder so people dont forget how terrible war really is, but that should have come from BIS in the first place .

[sniperuk02 0]

it would be good in one way for peace keeping mission on tonal

but then somewierdo would make some fecked up missions

[waffendennis 0]

So you all say:

Killing a adult or a animal is no problem for you but killing a kid is a problem?

Hmm...The soldiers in the tonal pack looks like pre adults ( age's 16+ )

Well I say: If this is a problem...Make them with unlimetid health...

[Cpt. FrostBite 0]

COOL! New we can use kids for taget practice

Can't wait to play a sniper and scope these kids on the playground. Would be nice to how the AI reacts when I shoot a few.

Ok, I hope ya'll understand that I'm joking

[Donnervogel 0]

sick

[edc 0]

I think a child addon would be a great idea. They could be used in hostage rescue missions, or just for background (you can't expect there to be all those men and women, but no kids, can you? ). Maybe a BB Gun addon to go with them. Making them invincible would kind of defeat the purpose of hostage rescue missions.

[drow 0]

No need to be pussies about it, a child addon would be great, my mod is focusing on the vietnam war, where there were lots of children, and people of smaller stature,

its up to you if you find joy in shooting helpless children, but i dont think thats the point of the addon.

EDIT - unlimited health is the stupidist thing i have ever heard, that would only make people want to shoot them more.

we have thought of all this for our mod, and i thought you could script or trigger a sound file or something, like its a voice in his head, his concience, saying "o my god i am a baby killer" that would be better than a kid being shot with a full clip and it not doing anything.

p.s. EVERYONE KNOWS THEY WOULD SHOOT ONE OF THE KIDS AT LEAST ONCE IN THE EDITOR TO SEE... dont try to fool yourselves.

[ebud 18]

Maybe someone could come up with a basic list of animations and transitions that would need edited so this could work.

[waffendennis 0]

No need to be pussies about it, a child addon would be great, my mod is focusing on the vietnam war, where there were lots of children, and people of smaller stature,

its up to you if you find joy in shooting helpless children, but i dont think thats the point of the addon.

EDIT  - unlimited health is the stupidist thing i have ever heard, that would only make people want to shoot them more.

we have thought of all this for our mod, and i thought you could script or trigger a sound file or something, like its a voice in his head, his concience, saying "o my god i am a baby killer" that would be better than a kid being shot with a full clip and it not doing anything.

p.s. EVERYONE KNOWS THEY WOULD SHOOT ONE OF THE KIDS AT LEAST ONCE IN THE EDITOR TO SEE... dont try to fool yourselves.  

Kim pfuc is one of the famoust vietnam child...

But I like yuor idea.

[drow 0]

tho many VC were so young and small from malnutrition that they seemed child-like, what i meant was, children with women will really bring that element of life into ofp that has been severly lacking when it comes to urban war, or any war for that matter, their are civilians, and civilian casualties.

I have faith in the OFP community, this is a WAR SIMULATION, we're all grown up enough to handle such an addon.