Children

[nephilim 0]

children are absolutelly missplaced in ofp!

u may have already expirienced that other poeple think that Ego-Shooter of any sort should be forbidden

cuz war isn´t fun...

so when anyone makes kids for ofp i can already see the news paper headlines lik eg:

"Student berserker killed 20 children! Cause: Brutal Video Game massacre OFP"

or other sort of bullshit

i really don´t want to see this sort of shit anywhere, i mean

i know like peope are...

if they don´t have any idea which such things happen

they look for a scapegoat > Brutal Video games

but thats rubbish!

has anyone of u planned a school massacre in a school in ofp or what?

sth. similar happend in germany

the massacre of erfurt where a student ran amok killing other kids

they instantly blamed the computer games like cs for this..

so adiscussion began wether to ban such games...

(ok ok i stop here)

i really don´t want to see kids in ofp

even if it would increase realism

[MEDICUS 0]

i really don´t want to see kids in ofp

even if it would increase realism

Same here!

Mfg MEDICUS

[Bobcatt666 0]

Well don't think anyone may of noticed there are children on a number of mods already, mostly noncombatants. It worked well how the mods missions were handled. But yeah drawback is you have guys that would run around shooting children, just cause they can. But seeing there are mods out now with kid models in them not seen the "lets make kid killing missions" so far.

[ZiRo 0]

Right, Sure kid hunt missions would be shite.

But at the end of the day all it will be is an addon for a GAME.

Your all worried about killing some computer rendered models, slightly shorter than originals.

Sure you've got ethics involved, but would you have not bought/play this game if BIS had included models of children??

-ZiRo

[-=BT=- Matty R 0]

there is a boy in ofp already....

[SpongeBob 0]

That kid's head looks a little too small for that body.

[Bobcatt666 0]

*NEWS FLASH*

Modern Hobbit Commando Paratroopers seen taking compbat positions round the island of Nagova as they seize control of high level locations over the island. And overthrow the BIS appointed puppet government. Easilly overpowering the rogue Russain military garrison by incopacitating them with wounds to the groin kneecaps and shins.

*NEWS FLASH*

Yeah sue me...

Seeing most third world contries your armed militias are made of if teens and old men most of the adult males have been killed off in war already. But I'm not going to tell an addon maker what they can and cannot make, the big thing is the old saying don't like it don't download it. =P

Isn't freedom of choice wonderful.. =)

[Sgt. Stryker 0]

I'll drink to that (the freedom of choice part)

[MEDICUS 0]

Right, Sure kid hunt missions would be shite.

But at the end of the day all it will be is an addon for a GAME.

Your all worried about killing some computer rendered models, slightly shorter than originals.

I think the problem isn't what WE (the players) think about children in OFP. The Problem (or at least it could get a problem) is what the rest (press etc) would think about children in a EGO-/Strategic- Shooter.

If that would go to the wrong hands, it could turn in a really bad thing. (Just my opinion)

Mfg MEDICUS

[Sniperwolf572 758]

Yeah bobcat,here in Bosnia that situation (Teens and old ppl) was very true

[Taconic 0]

I think that the debate about this is kind of ridiculous.

Having children in OFP will cater to sickos making "child hunt" missions?

How is this any worse than "woman hunt" missions? Or "slaughter all of the civilians" missions? Beyond that, why does it matter? If somebody wants to do something like that (and I'm sure they will,) you don't have to download it. Who is to say that the people that wish to do things like that haven't already done it and kept the addon private? How would that affect any of you?

Having a third party child addon will suddenly make the media villify OFP and will magically make the mentally ill begin to use OFP to plot school shootings?

Well, why wasn't Fallout villified by the media? In Fallout, you could choose to murder children if you wished. Doing so would leave you branded a child killer for the rest of the game, but the option was there. It actually added a lot to firefights since you actually had to consider collateral damage when in towns. Once I accidently caught a kid that I hadn't seen on a side street with a frag grenade and legitimately felt bad about it.

As for school shootings, why is replacing a model with a child one going to suddenly make people use OFP to plan school shootings (which are such rare occurances that it's really rather silly to even bring them up?) Why can't people use OFP as it is to do this? Hey, we'd better remove JAM and the FDF mod from download because they feature more realistic recoil values than stock OFP, and somebody might use these mods to learn how to shoot people with these rifles! Where do we draw the line? Where do we stop censoring ourselves because a tiny minority is insane? Censorship won't change that fact.

You guys are trying to draw a line where there shouldn't be one.

War is wrong. It's a terrible construct that has resulted in the death of millions throughout human history. People have died many torturous and violent deaths through war. War is responsible for most of the greatest attrocities to ever take place.

In spite of that, none of you decrying this idea have any problem playing a game like OFP, which serves only to glamorize war. You can't get hurt playing in OFP. You can't die in OFP. You can't see your friends die in OFP. You can't watch cities burn to the ground, ruining the lives of thousands in OFP. You can't be tortured as a POW in OFP. You can't cower in a foxhole, holding a friend's severed arm in your lap, as you try to survive yet another artillerly barrage in OFP. What you get in OFP is a sanitized view of war. Sure, it's more realistic than most other depictions, but it does little to convey the true nature of war -- if it did (and if it were actually possible,) nobody would want to play it.

Anyway, my point is that it's rather silly to draw a line here, especially when nobody has problems with things like nuclear weapon addons. What, should we be against those because somebody might cram a hundred civilians into Petrovich and drop a bomb? What about CoC artillery? What's to stop people from filling Montignac with women and then having 8 M109 batteries open up on it? What if the media sees this? "Misogynist computer game promots mass murder!"

I, for one, have no problem with this. It would add atmosphere. I find it absolutely absurd that deveopers like BIS (and countless others) cannot add children to their games out of the fear that a few disturbed individuals might try to "hurt" a bunch of polygons, textures, and code. I also have little doubt that somebody would abuse this. Why? Because somebody has undoubtably already abused every other OFP addon ever created. Nobody complains because somehow depicting the massacre of unarmed civilians in a video game is somehow more socially acceptable than depicting that children are mortal.