AKM 0 Posted January 15, 2005 SV-98 would be nice to have. Quote[/b] ]what was wrong with lesnaya for that pic? it was amazing. i was looking forward to give those guys heavy sniper rifles(will there be KSVK or OSV-96?) and ambush a few convoys. btw how many shots from 12.7mm rifle(from your weapon pack) does it take to disable CBT APC? anyway, i hope the new woodland camo will be even better. nice work so far. Wait and see. Nothing was technically wrong with Lesnaya, but for reasons beyond my understanding, it was changed. The antimaterial rifle is in 12.7x108mm. (.50BMG) As to which model of rifle it is, wait and see. Wait and see. And if you're asking a question as vague as "How many rounds to disable a COMBAT! APC?" then you want to specify not only model, but version number as well. For instance, a v1.20 M2A2 "Bradley" would take more rounds than the 1.43, for example, or the M-113 would take fewer, and suchforth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
verbal 0 Posted January 15, 2005 yes, the question was vague. i'm just curious how is this promissing weapon pack balanced. never mind. will find out when it's released. as for SV-98, i thought it was intended primary for units like SOBR and OMON. but it would be a nice toy. well, there's nothing wrong with waiting. and this will be worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobcatt666 0 Posted January 15, 2005 boy ya keep addinf stuff to be made thus it increasses the amount of time it will be before release. I sences people really don't wish to see thise items released. =P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted January 15, 2005 Yes always a hard to balance between quality and requests by the community. The Les was exchanged with something more fitting the GRU, Sumrak if anyone knows it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcbean 0 Posted January 15, 2005 Thank you all for replying! And one more question: I will be able to play with them already in January? I am asking because i am planing to remake some campaing, using your GRU and Motorized inf. units. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MEDICUS 0 Posted January 15, 2005 And one more question: I will be able to play with them already in January? I am asking because i am planing to remake some campaing, using your GRU and Motorized inf. units. Nice try, mcbean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcbean 0 Posted January 15, 2005 Damn! You got me! MEDICUS or someone from RHS, post some new screens? If you can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt. FrostBite 0 Posted January 15, 2005 I tried to search for 'sumrak camouflage', but couldn't find it. I hope one day you will make an addon for MP in this camouflage; http://www.tridentmilitary.com/New-Images/mchsklmk.jpg ROFL Can't believe it, but this was actually used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cozza 24 Posted January 15, 2005 what the hell does that camoflage agaisnt a bloddy volcano lava camo "I wont be seen if i jump in the lava" "AGHHHHHH it burns" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chip 0 Posted January 15, 2005 That's an emergency unit camo if I'm not mistaken, it's not meant to camouflage you. Note the CPR! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKM 0 Posted January 15, 2005 Camouflage Uniform: SUMRAK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted January 15, 2005 For those who wonder, the Sumrak is kind of a modern KZS revival, cool idea i think, should get me one of those Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt. FrostBite 0 Posted January 15, 2005 hmm, what about the partizan camouflage. I think that one would be a better replacement for your old woodland. http://www.sposn.ru/summer/partizan.html pic showing both sumrak and partizan camouflage in beslan; http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos....aay.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bobcatt666 0 Posted January 15, 2005 Eh ok. @ Shadow, Were you able to access the forums? Only seen Laser and MEDICUS there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKM 0 Posted January 15, 2005 Cpt. Frostbite: Partizan is so recently developed that any images showing GRU Spetsnaz troops wearing it during operations are not available. Partizan uniforms have only been seen thus far on Spetsgruppe assigned to the MVD. I think the reasoning behind the removal of the Lesnaya camouflage was: "Why have something that looks American there? They're not American units." Went with Sumrak, Gorka-S on the GRU Spetsnaz. More Spetsnaz are on the way, perhaps one of them will be wearing Partizan. For this release, changing it now just adds another two, three weeks onto the process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt. FrostBite 0 Posted January 15, 2005 ok. Good call though on removing the US woodland like pattern. Although it looks nice it doesn't give them this typical russian look. Looking forward to it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miss_cleo 0 Posted January 16, 2005 "partizan" camouflage looks suspiciously like WWII Waffen-SS camo to me.... so does the "Karhu" pattern.. especially with the autumn side out. http://www.sposn.ru/summer/karhu.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKM 0 Posted January 16, 2005 That seemed odd to me and the rest of us down at RCG at first. In the Great Patriotic War, the Russians were "pWned," "owned," "killed," and everything inbetween by the Waffen-SS. Then they go and adopt a pattern so very similar... confused us all. It's actually quite effective. Apparently the Fascist connotation with that kind of uniform pattern has worn off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cpt. FrostBite 0 Posted January 16, 2005 The pattern is indeed very simular, although the colors are slightly different, but still almost the same. Does it remind you of the SS? I know that the Waffen SS used camouflage in Russia, but I don't know if this specific pattern was used on the eastern front (western front for you guys). This pattern was also used in the battle for the bulge (autumn side) But the camo works, and is a good choise. This pattern is much better than (for exampe) US woodland, due to it's smaller dots. So if something is better you better use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
belgerot 33 Posted January 16, 2005 Partizan camouflage from what I heard is not an official Russian camouflage, some soldiers just like it so they buy it for themselves to wear. Pretty good choice, I have heard that it is popular amongst some operatives because it is effective. Ofcourse no doubt that it is a modern day variant influenced of the old Waffen SS camos. Sumrak looks fine as a replacement. I was hoping the woodland would stay because there are a few differences in patterns between the Russian type and US type, but the Sumrak will probably be fitting of GRU better like Shadow said. Good job as usual RHS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miss_cleo 0 Posted January 16, 2005 @Cpt. FrostBite: all patterns of SS camo were used on both fronts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKM 0 Posted January 16, 2005 Belgerot: - Yeah, Russian Lesnaya is actually more effective than US Army-issue WOODLAND-I, at least in my tests. Uniforms printed in Lesnaya also tend to be more comfortable, but that's not a function of the pattern. Partizan, Karhu, all those, aren't issue, as was mentioned before, but troops do wear them. MVD Designated Marksmen / Snipers are fond of the Partizan suit as either a base for a ghillie or their standard uniform. Gorka-S, Sumrak, Flora, VSR/Schoefield. We've covered a fair bit there. Next up would be things like Kamysh, Tigr, Podlesok/Reed, possibly SMK, GOROD-1 and -2, et cetera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Geocider 0 Posted January 16, 2005 Something that atleast I think would be REALLY nice and quite Russian, would be odd camouflage-combinations on some soldiers. Like Gorod-1+Schofield, kamysh+urban kamysh etc. etc... E.g. Sniper in Moscow Russians in Chechnya Something like that wouldn't take too much time would it? Maybe I am the only one interested, but... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AKM 0 Posted January 16, 2005 But at this point, going back and redoing the textures would add yet more time onto the already lengthening release date. Most conscripts seem to be issued complete uniform sets more and more nowadays, so the full VSR or full Flora set is fine. With regards to the Spetsnaz, they're GRU Spetsnaz. Not much different from any other kind of Spetsnaz, granted, but to change textures (again), now, would drive Laser and his 28.8K or 32.2K modem insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow NX 1 Posted January 16, 2005 33k One of the reasons why i really really respect him for his amazing work, must take lot of patience Share this post Link to post Share on other sites