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[Taconic 0]

In any case, it's already on, I don't think anybody wants to go about trying to remove it, and if it really bothers you - just don't put troops on it.

Oh, it doesn't bother me. I was just wondering if it was an actual practice since I've never seen infantry riding on a T-80BV.

[Shadow NX 1]

Well would you prefer that the t55/54s are the only tanks we release who can carry soldiers?

Ive seen pics of soldiers sitting on a T72 with era moving trough grozny, sure its stupid but if youre sure the area is clean of agressors and you are exhausted you may find it quie nice to ride back to base on any vehicle that is availeable

On the other hand its cool for MP games, being able to bring the whole team to the frontline quick, drop them and then attack in coordination.

And if the idea with guys sitting on era equipped tanks still sounds like a bad idea to anyone then he may do what AKM said, dont put troops on it

[Keller_777 0]

...And some new T80 screens...

OH MY DEAR LORD!

I know that you will most likely finish those motorized infantry units, but the T-80s... are they going to be released soon too,

or is it just to show us what you have done with those tanks?

[Shadow NX 1]

Yes should happen soon, they are pretty close to be done now.

Offcourse the T80s model and texture wise are already bit older but since sigma never touched them again and lots of RHS folks went missing when the website wend down we obly have a small amount of people who can work on the tanks.

So far Kenji really done a great job on the T80s, and his own project the t62s look promising as well, especially now that he teached himself how to do his own textures.

[Gollum1 0]

Well would you prefer that the t55/54s are the only tanks we release who can carry soldiers?

Ive seen pics of soldiers sitting on a T72 with era moving trough grozny, sure its stupid but if youre sure the area is clean of agressors and you are exhausted you may find it quie nice to ride back to base on any vehicle that is availeable

On the other hand its cool for MP games, being able to bring the whole team to the frontline quick, drop them and then attack in coordination.

And if the idea with guys sitting on era equipped tanks still sounds like a bad idea to anyone then he may do what AKM said, dont put troops on it

Totally agree. It gives the tanks so much more versatility, and if you don't like it, don't put troops on it.

[sanctuary 19]

Offcourse the T80s model and texture wise are already bit older but since sigma never touched them again and lots of RHS folks went missing when the website wend down we obly have a small amount of people who can work on the tanks.

So far Kenji really done a great job on the T80s, and his own project the t62s look promising as well, especially now that he teached himself how to do his own textures.

Maybe you have looked at your T80 in the work for too much time to say that.

You should consider that the only Sigma T80 i (and so the majority of the people that are not in the modding community) have ,as it is the only one that have been released, is this T80 pack.

And comparing the tanks that are in this T80 pack with the screenshot you provided up there, the RHS update on Sigma T80 looks really great and definitively an awesome rework , both in the model and in the superb textures.

Congratulations to Kenji

Personnally i can't wait for this release as it is without any contest the best looking T80 i ever seen in an OFP non edited screenshot.

/back to drooling.

[AKM 0]

All we can say is that it will be released in the future. Cannot say when because we don't know when. It's done when it's done, and we determine when it's done. Ideally bug-free. We've already had the "Wait! Let's release another patch!" experiance with the T-54/55 and T-64 tanks, I don't think anybody is eager to repeat that.

[Przezdzieblo 0]

All we can say is that it will be released in the future. Cannot say when because we don't know when. It's done when it's done, and we determine when it's done. Ideally bug-free. We've already had the "Wait! Let's release another patch!" experiance with the T-54/55 and T-64 tanks, I don't think anybody is eager to repeat that.

Well, actually it might be good way. Probably it is better to let players to see any bugs in late beta version than to find it in early final version.

For me experience with T54/T55 and T64 patches was ok, even if T64B still lacks some barrel.something ;) Even little bugged addons might be a great joy, bugs that are found are easier to kill

[AKM 0]

Yeah, that's why we have the whole beta-testing team and the like. Especially Johann.

"Here's a new beta."

*Johann goes off for about ten minutes.*

"There are fifteen bugs. This is what they are and how you should fix them."

Public beta testing just fills up the inboxes on our mail accounts and makes it a bitch to coordinate what's been fixed.

"I fixed that already."

"But I fixed it yesterday."

"What about the turret bug?"

"Fixing it now."

"I've already fixed it."

And suchforth. There's less that can go wrong with the T-72, T-80 packages because we now fully understand the tank-riding scripts and we've worked with them longer now. The learning process grows smaller.

[Shadow NX 1]

Lol, now that really sounds like the rhs forum while the t55s were developed

[Bobcatt666 0]

At least their still being worked one, albit slowly. Stop demanding they be released earlier, cause having to go back to fix things a second and fourth time cause delays on other releases, as well as constnalty having to spend time answering repeated questions over and over again. If we had waisted a week long er on the T55s the other tanks might not have been delayed this long. And other mods rleasing tanks often drive thes back into the dev stage again cause a lot of the other mods lately are newer mods so.

You can imagin the complaints that will come if the T80 does not perform well aginst the opposition force unit because its not blanced. Even more so the AT Sniper System isn't operational like it should be MP able, which is the major problem keeping it usable in MP games even if I never see Armored exchanges in MP games ever.

[Keller_777 0]

So far Kenji really done a great job on the T80s, and his own project the t62s look promising as well, especially now that he teached himself how to do his own textures.

Very interesting!

You mean that the T-62 project aint' dead?

Well... that would just super!

Good luck!

[AKM 0]

It sure as Hell isn't dead. And depending on when Shadow gets my E-mail, we will have to unfortunately bring the release date of the RFMI back further. Sorry - I found some bugs that are not visible in screenshots on Shadow's freaking Supercomputer.

[lee_h._oswald 0]

RHS Addons don't die! They go to hell, regroup and fix some bugs!

MfG Lee

[Shadow NX 1]

It sure as Hell isn't dead. And depending on when Shadow gets my E-mail, we will have to unfortunately bring the release date of the RFMI back further. Sorry - I found some bugs that are not visible in screenshots on Shadow's freaking Supercomputer.

w00t wonder what that could be

[king homer 1]

RHS Addons don't die! They go to hell, regroup and fix some bugs!

MfG Lee

Yes Satan kicks their asses and when they'll come back they're some ass-kicking addons :P

[cozza 24]

the addons from HELL!!!!!!!!!!

*DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN*

[AKM 0]

Shadow, standby for my PM.

[kaskad 0]

Quote[/b] ]Do people actually ride on the BV, though? I've never seen any pictures of that. I don't know how comfortable I'd feel standing near let along sitting on ERA.

This was discussed earlier. Russian conscript troops, while not retarded, seem to have a penchant for wishing death upon themselves in this fashion.

I don't think the tankers care, and I know that I've never seen any Spetsnaz or "professional" troops sitting on tanks equipped with ERA plating.

ERA plates don't cover the entire vehicle, usually just the frontal arc and maybe 75% of the flanks. Also applied to the roof of the vehicle, and perhaps the engine deck. Rarely do I see a Russian MBT that's as well protected with ERA as the crew would prefer, I'm sure.

The smarter conscripts probably decide to stand or crouch where there's no ERA plating - typically this is the back of the turret, some spots on the roof of the turret (Tank crewmen probably don't want ERA near the hatches they've got to scramble in and out of), and the rear roof of the hull.

In any case, it's already on, I don't think anybody wants to go about trying to remove it, and if it really bothers you - just don't put troops on it.

Edit:

KingHomer - Nice signature image. I like it.

Have you ever heard a PG-7VL (RPG-7 grenade) explode ?

If it hits an armor that your sitting on (no ERA), you will go deaf for a long time, if your lucky.

So really, it doesn't make that much of a difference, if a tank gets hit by an ATGM or some other type of an AT weapon, the infantry is gonna be dead with or without ERA....

and also, you'll be surprised how much "retarded" conscripts learn while they are in.

P.S. greetings to all the RHS members.

[belgerot 33]

Quote[/b] ]Do people actually ride on the BV, though? I've never seen any pictures of that. I don't know how comfortable I'd feel standing near let along sitting on ERA.

This was discussed earlier. Russian conscript troops, while not retarded, seem to have a penchant for wishing death upon themselves in this fashion.

I don't think the tankers care, and I know that I've never seen any Spetsnaz or "professional" troops sitting on tanks equipped with ERA plating.

ERA plates don't cover the entire vehicle, usually just the frontal arc and maybe 75% of the flanks. Also applied to the roof of the vehicle, and perhaps the engine deck. Rarely do I see a Russian MBT that's as well protected with ERA as the crew would prefer, I'm sure.

The smarter conscripts probably decide to stand or crouch where there's no ERA plating - typically this is the back of the turret, some spots on the roof of the turret (Tank crewmen probably don't want ERA near the hatches they've got to scramble in and out of), and the rear roof of the hull.

In any case, it's already on, I don't think anybody wants to go about trying to remove it, and if it really bothers you - just don't put troops on it.

Edit:

KingHomer - Nice signature image. I like it.

Have you ever heard a PG-7VL (RPG-7 grenade) explode ?

If it hits an armor that your sitting on (no ERA), you will go deaf for a long time, if your lucky.

So really, it doesn't make that much of a difference, if a tank gets hit by an ATGM or some other type of an AT weapon, the infantry is gonna be dead with or without ERA....

and also, you'll be surprised how much "retarded" conscripts learn while they are in.

P.S. greetings to all the RHS members.

Well said. I would think it only logical not to sit on a tank like that, even with ERA it might offer the crew better protection but I doubt it would help any soldiers sitting on the tank much. The only exception to that would be if a soldier were shielded by something like the turret, but even then they don't get off that easily. I wish I could add more than just praise, but I am really looking forward to your T-80 series tanks. The wait may be long, but it is well worth it.

[hellfish6 7]

If you're riding on a tank behind the lines, it's not totally unthinkable to have infantry riding on tanks with ERA. Yeah, actually conducting a tank desant attack with ERA tanks probably doesn't make sense, but certainly while moving from point A to point B you'll find troops riding wherever they can.

Russian conscripts aren't retarded, but nobody likes to walk a forced march.

[ThudBlunderQ8 0]

Quote[/b] ]Russian conscripts aren't retarded, but nobody likes to walk a forced march.

The expression we used to use was "a second-class ride is better than a first-class walk".

[AKM 0]

Quote[/b] ]and also, you'll be surprised how much "retarded" conscripts learn while they are in.

I don't recall saying they're retarded. I seem to have said:

Quote[/b] ]Russian conscript troops, while not retarded

I'll just put the operative part of that sentence in bold.

Yeah, if they're not beaten to death by their officers, starved, or get taken out by their own troops, they learn a lot while they're in-service, usually not during their training period though - 155 hours of battle training total I think.

[stevevcb 3]

The expression we used to use was "a second-class ride is better than a first-class walk".

Hah, my philosophy on life. You can even replace "ride" with "beer" and "walk" with "can of Coke" and it stills works!

[Bobcatt666 0]

The RHS staff forum got hit yesterday, nothing was lost as far as the IT guys can see, should be back up later this evening. As things are implimented to protect against that incident. Please bear with us. It actually up and running just a the gateway as were replacing firewalls, dns, webproxies, might even have the RHS/OFP MP server back on again if things work correctly. =)