BBC News Article: Zombies help ageing title Arma II top video game charts

[jeza 5416]

Interesting read, nice to see a major news outlet pick up on the ArmA series once again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18280173

[Nicholas 5]

It worries me a slight bit how popular this is getting. People are not buying ArmA because it's a military simulator. They are buying ArmA to play DayZ. It also worries me that the ArmA military simulator fanbase is now the minority and are no longer important to Bohemia Interactive.

I do hope that Bohemia Interactive splits this off as a separate game. That way, we can have the military simulator and the zombie simulatorâ„¢.

[slatts 1978]

It also worries me that the ArmA military simulator fanbase is now the minority and are no longer important to Bohemia Interactive.

You have the Arma fan base, and the DayZ fan base. The Arma fan base is what matters to BIS, the DayZ fan base matters to DayZ team

[hellfire257 3]

DayZ...it's an interesting thing. How long will it retain people's interest? Plenty of new players are at it for sure, but will it retain them?

[max power 21]

It worries me a slight bit how popular this is getting. People are not buying ArmA because it's a military simulator. They are buying ArmA to play DayZ. It also worries me that the ArmA military simulator fanbase is now the minority and are no longer important to Bohemia Interactive.

I do hope that Bohemia Interactive splits this off as a separate game. That way, we can have the military simulator and the zombie simulatorâ„¢.

It makes me laugh and laugh that the most popular game in the world is a mod that is designed to, among other things, piss you off. It puts all of this punch pulling, player pandering, health regenerating, epic cutscene foolishness in perspective.

[jblackrupert 14]

DayZ players don't have ADD.

I don't see them showing up on Arma servers running around shooting and blowing things up like a small but annoying minority group of free players.

If anything, all that walking and walking and walking, creeping around and dieing 50 times a night is excellent training for playing Arma.

Edited June 2, 2012 by jblackrupert

[Nicholas 5]

You have the Arma fan base, and the DayZ fan base. The Arma fan base is what matters to BIS, the DayZ fan base matters to DayZ team

Not so sure about that. They recently released that map pack stating that it would be great for your "Zombie Hunts".

It makes me laugh and laugh that the most popular game in the world is a mod that is designed to, among other things, piss you off. It puts all of this punch pulling, player pandering, health regenerating, epic cutscene foolishness in perspective.

DayZ does not piss me off, I enjoy it quite a bit, I just have fears that Bohemia Interactive will soon brush aside the military simulator fan base.

DayZ players don't have ADD.

I don't see them showing up on Arma servers running around shooting and blowing things up like a small but annoying minority group of free players.

If anything, all that walking and walking and walking, creeping around and dieing 50 times a night is excellent training for playing Arma.

I don't think anyone here has stated that DayZ players have ADD.

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It's quite unfortunate. Any new ArmA III video that comes out, it seems most of the comments are "DayZ will look amazing in ArmA III!"

[max power 21]

DayZ does not piss me off, I enjoy it quite a bit, I just have fears that Bohemia Interactive will soon brush aside the military simulator fan base.

I was commenting on the stated intent of the creator, and contrasting it to the gaming industry norms.

[jblackrupert 14]

I don't think anyone here has stated that DayZ players have ADD.

Not here but a lot of Youtube and other forums comments are about how DayZ players are ruining Arma.

The "we need DayZ for this!!!!!111" comments on everything related to Arma 3 is a little tiresome though.

Bohemia is going to have a huge influx of money for developement of Arma, hopefully they'll put that extra cash into giving us the things they put off doing because of costs.

And we finally got maps without having to buy special editions like Arma X. All copies of Arma 3 might ship with maps now.

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I was commenting on the stated intent of the creator, and contrasting it to the gaming industry norms.

Rocket might be plotting to overthrow Marek Španěl and take his beanz.

[JdB 151]

It's quite unfortunate. Any new ArmA III video that comes out, it seems most of the comments are "DayZ will look amazing in ArmA III!"

Before DayZ came out, it was, "FDF will look amazing in ArmA I", "ACE will look amazing in ArmA II!" etc (yes, FDF and ACE are realism-based enhancements, DayZ is part fiction, but it is still showing that people are looking forward to a mod and not the actual game). Some day "DayZ" will be replaced by the name of the latest next-big-thing mod.

Edited June 2, 2012 by JdB

[slatts 1978]

Not so sure about that. They recently released that map pack stating that it would be great for your "Zombie Hunts".

It's called a sense of humour. ;)

[Mr. Charles 22]

Before DayZ came out, it was, "FDF will look amazing in ArmA I", "ACE will look amazing in ArmA II!" etc (yes, FDF and ACE are realism-based enhancements, DayZ is part fiction, but it is still showing that people are looking forward to a mod and not the actual game). Some day "DayZ" will be replaced by the name of the latest next-big-thing mod.

These mods, however, don't necessarily change the scope of ArmA being a milsim. DayZ is more of a surival/PvP thing.

[dmarkwick 261]

Right. So now ArmA2 is popular, but it's popular for the wrong reasons. Guys should just chill the fuck out & all. Military gamers are not going to be forgotten.

[Defunkt 431]

ArmA's military-simulation elements (armour, damage, detection, targetting, counter-measures) are really pretty slap-dash. Its primary strength and true identity is as an open world sandbox which is the foundation on which both the military gaming and role-playing (including Day Z) have always depended. I actually think it'd be a good thing for BI to focus on the sandbox a little more, if you truly dig the military simulation then you really ought to be using ACE anyway, vanilla systems are just too irritating and inconsistent.

[maturin 12]

They need to push the realism a little farther, though. Many of ACE's features have to be awkwardly tacked on with scripts because the game doesn't provide a good base.

That said, the most important thing they can do is improve playability of controls and UI (without sacrificing depth) and improving. the. ever. loving. AI.

[GRS 10]

DayZ got so old so fast anyways...

[Flash Thunder 10]

More customers for BIS product equals better product for us why are you guys always fucking tripping out about it.

Really....

BIS isn't going to dumb down Arma for DayZ, if anything it will become its own IP.

[maturin 12]

On the other hand, maybe Day Z buys us a few more days at the firing range with recording equipment, or an Xaitment license...

[jblackrupert 14]

It's funny how people running around handing out parking tickets in Chernarus Life or whatever it's called didn't cause this much fuss.

[Nicholas 5]

It's funny how people running around handing out parking tickets in Chernarus Life or whatever it's called didn't cause this much fuss.

Probably because that wasn't on the scale that DayZ is. Currently, I'm sure that DayZ-only players out number the ArmA military sim players. Those others mods didn't make the primary userbase the minority.

[froggyluv 2136]

On the other hand, maybe Day Z buys us a few more days at the firing range with recording equipment, or an Xaitment license...

Hehe, you know I've been secretely thinking this all along but not wanted to say outright :)

[james2464 177]

Lol how are you all so sure Arma is a military simulator? For me it simulates nothing. It's just a really fun game.

[jblackrupert 14]

Probably because that wasn't on the scale that DayZ is. Currently, I'm sure that DayZ-only players out number the ArmA military sim players. Those others mods didn't make the primary userbase the minority.

I've seen plenty of nights in a row were the "Life" servers were completely full and Arma servers empty or damn near empty.

In fact before DayZ appeared the Life servers were consistently beating regular public servers in terms of numbers.

People who bought Arma to play DayZ are not joining Arma servers asking "Where are the zombies, this server needs zombiiesss!!"

the ones I've seen join and know the controls, understand thats it a big sandbox game, death is 1 bullet away, stealth and tactics are nessesary to survive.

If you join a vanilla Chernarus server and there are people causing problems it's more then likely they are Arma 2 Free players

who saw the word FREE and downloaded it without doing any research about what they are grabbing.

This chicken little sky cries of the sky is falling because of DayZ is beyond nonsense.

[bangtail 0]

It makes me laugh and laugh that the most popular game in the world is a mod that is designed to, among other things, piss you off. It puts all of this punch pulling, player pandering, health regenerating, epic cutscene foolishness in perspective.

QFT

It really is quite amusing tbh.

DayZ does nothing but help the ArmA franchise, I can't see any downside whatsoever.

It offers a 'zombie' scenario that nobody else can, because of the awesomeness that is the editor, and a little imagination.

What could be more compelling?

Edited June 3, 2012 by BangTail

[Nicholas 5]

QFT

It really is quite amusing tbh.

DayZ does nothing but help the ArmA franchise, I can't see any downside whatsoever.

It offers a 'zombie' scenario that nobody else can, because of the awesomeness that is the editor, and a little imagination.

What could be more compelling?

Might want to read what Max Power was actually talking about.

I was commenting on the stated intent of the creator, and contrasting it to the gaming industry norms.