Darky88 0 Posted May 18, 2011 I doubt Bohemia can cope with the insane effort involved to change engines completely which is why I don't believe in the Outerra theory. What I believe, or rather hope, is that someday they do major rewrites of their own engine core to use updated libraries and modern techniques while still keeping their current set of features. They are already doing that in small steps from OFP to the games today, but to me it looks like they are basically stacking that on top of the original OFP core rather than changing the core itself, causing the engine to act really slow and raising the hardware requirements to the crazy level it is at right now. Maybe I am wrong, as I have no idea what their code really is like, but it's what it looks like to me on the outside. So I'll assume that nice features like perhaps an much improved AI, or the speculated physics engine from the ARG, or whatever else you are looking forward to, requires an updated base unless they want to keep demanding insane hardware specifications for the upcoming games. Would you want ArmA3 to run only on a 12 Core Supercomputer from Mars? What I'm saying would be the same route other engines that developers have specialized themselve on went. Someone mentioned CoD and Q3 engine, another example would be Valve and the Source Engine which originated from Quake 2 - and that came a long way too through such rewrites and can display some nice stuff with really low hardware requirements. Having said that, I can't say if ArmA3 or whatever they are going to announce tomorrow will do ANY of this. There is no proof for that, and it's wishful thinking. I don't even know if Bohemia can financially afford such a undertaking or not. I guess we'll just have to see tomorrow what it'll be, we all seem to have different expectations what it might be and what they did to get there. And while some like PuFu seem to be disturbed by the expectations we post, I like reading about it and look forward to see tomorrow who was closest to the reality (and who was off the most) :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WackyIraqi 2 Posted May 18, 2011 I believe what we can expect is: 1) Larger world (Europe / Greece hacks) 2) Improved (under)water simulation (submarine hack) 3) Overhauled physics engine (sphere wall hack) The rest of the hacks were hinting towards the actual gameplay. As for Outerra/FSX sized world, I believe that is a little out of the realms of possibility for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bushlurker 46 Posted May 18, 2011 I just don't see them licensing somebody else's engine. That isn't who Bohemia Interactive is....Well said! From Poseidon on this has been Ondrej's baby... that's NOT going to change... B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killerwatt 0 Posted May 18, 2011 Well I hope its an announcement that we are going to get the entire green sea region in a single map. (A new campaign to go along with it would be nice too). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.Taffy 10 Posted May 18, 2011 @PuFu My assumptions (I'll admit that's what they are) are based on Tech Videos demonstrating the Flight Model, Vehicle Physics, Water and the ability for people to walk around etc. And also the aspirations and goals of the developers mentioned in the occasional blog or forum post. I wasn't aware of the Infinity Engine, you're right it does seem to offer the same scope as Outerra, thnks for telling me about it. I appreciate your apology, thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WackyIraqi 2 Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) Well said!From Poseidon on this has been Ondrej's baby... that's NOT going to change... Ondrej Outerra-----> <-Real Virtuality Edited May 18, 2011 by WackyIraqi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carlostex 38 Posted May 18, 2011 Well they might have been working on Arma3 but, i still think it should take a while for it to be released. I prefer ato have an extremely optimized game, than for it to be released ASAP. Aa for hardware, we are less than 1 month from having 8 cores, with advanced instruction sets, like XOP and FMA4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.Taffy 10 Posted May 18, 2011 Well they might have been working on Arma3 but, i still think it should take a while for it to be released. I prefer ato have an extremely optimized game, than for it to be released ASAP.Aa for hardware, we are less than 1 month from having 8 cores, with advanced instruction sets, like XOP and FMA4. Oh I hope so, I would happily wait years for Arma 3. There's still plenty of potential to be realised in Arma 2, particularly from mods and user made missions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergeantshizzle 10 Posted May 18, 2011 anything happened since last night? I just came back from an English and Maths exam, really don't have the time to be following this anymore :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.Taffy 10 Posted May 18, 2011 Only that the site called Arma 3 (which had stated no relation to BIS or IDEA Games and had some real life military pics) has gone offline and the ownership appears to have swtiched to BIS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t_d 47 Posted May 18, 2011 look here: http://who.is/dns/arma3.com/at Email it says: [email protected] related to "Miss KoÄka HlaváÄová." ??? Hlavac is the Biki admin and probably BIS webmaster for all websites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kernriver 4 Posted May 18, 2011 (edited) Bearing in mind recent TakeOnHelicopters invite to "test players", and also hands-on preview of Carrier Command, this "hacks" could mean something major, BIS is no more "underdog niche" developer. Just a wish/speculation. To all that worked their asses off to break those hacks, thank you. The best gaming community in the world. :627: Edited May 18, 2011 by Kernriver Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmarkwick 261 Posted May 18, 2011 I'll take a small wager on deformable terrain :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkguerilla 10 Posted May 18, 2011 Who is with me that this whole "hacking" bit is nothing more than a viral marketing campaign and that it has been very effective judging by the 656 pages and 6,552 posts? Oh yeah btw: http://armaenigma.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Its got a count down timer on it. XD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattxr 9 Posted May 18, 2011 Reading this thread now i havnt got a clue whats going on now ;) But im really excited :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.Taffy 10 Posted May 18, 2011 Who is with me that this whole "hacking" bit is nothing more than a viral marketing campaign and that it has been very effective judging by the 656 pages and 6,552 posts?Oh yeah btw: http://armaenigma.com/index.php?title=Main_Page Its got a count down timer on it. XD Well that would really have been the point, to whip up a bit of excitement before the announcement. It's still a rewarding experience from the community's point of view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dale0404 5 Posted May 18, 2011 i would like to tell You that ... but then they must kill me and also everyone told :) Well tell us then! We wont tell a soul!! Honest guv!!!! :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Copsy 10 Posted May 18, 2011 I just hope what ever BI decided to release they release it relativley soonish I dont want to waste my summer waiting on this awesome expasnion / game / imrpoved engine or what ever it is just to find out that after i played it i have to start school again. as to what it is Improved Ai Or Improved Physics would be the best thing in teh world I just hate it when they ai get stuck in buildings and dont go over bridges ! Or when im 10 Meters in the air dead but still doing an animation But yet arma2 is still so awesome!!! BRING ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT !!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maddogx 13 Posted May 18, 2011 I'll take a small wager on deformable terrain :) Elaborate. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dale0404 5 Posted May 18, 2011 I just hope what ever BI decided to release they release it relativley soonishI dont want to waste my summer waiting on this awesome expasnion / game / imrpoved engine or what ever it is just to find out that after i played it i have to start school again. as to what it is Improved Ai Or Improved Physics would be the best thing in teh world I just hate it when they ai get stuck in buildings and dont go over bridges ! Or when im 10 Meters in the air dead but still doing an animation But yet arma2 is still so awesome!!! BRING ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT !!!!! Dude, whatever it is they announce do not expect it to be this side of christmas... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Copsy 10 Posted May 18, 2011 Dude, whatever it is they announce do not expect it to be this side of christmas... Thanks for recking my life! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dale0404 5 Posted May 18, 2011 Thanks for recking my life! Sorry...:p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Copsy 10 Posted May 18, 2011 Sorry...:p Lmao was just kidding with you like your probably right. Im too much of an optomist or however you spell it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellfire257 3 Posted May 18, 2011 Optimist** Silly bugger! You're probably right about after xmas. I too would like to see something before I go to Uni, but fat chance of that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big-Rooney 5 Posted May 18, 2011 whatever it is i'll be happy with it as i'm having fun with ArmA:II CO and i'm saving up for a new rig for a possible ArmA:3 in the years to come, so I probably won't get the Announcement live but it'll be good to see it all over the forums. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
