kdjac 19 Posted May 1, 2010 http://kotaku.com/5528565/real-life-modern-warfare-soldiers-vs-pirates-with-helmet-cameras Nothing bad in it, dutch marines take a boat captured by pirates but have helmet cameras. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sic-disaster 311 Posted May 1, 2010 For those who might worry, there isnt anybody being killed or injured in the video, after the pirates got sufficiently scared by all the gunfire being poured onto them they all surrendered. It's some cool footage to see, especially since i'm Dutch :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
*LK1* 10 Posted May 1, 2010 professionals and not excessively rudes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maturin 12 Posted May 2, 2010 What is the rationale behind helmet cams, anyway? PR? AAR? Seems like a lot of trouble and weight on an already heavy piece of equipment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archamedes 10 Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) maturin said: What is the rationale behind helmet cams, anyway? PR? AAR? Seems like a lot of trouble and weight on an already heavy piece of equipment. used for future training or even debriefing a mission. no exuses or bullshit with a camera and you will be court marshalled for those innocents you wiped out and forgot to mention Edited May 2, 2010 by Archamedes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
celery 8 Posted May 2, 2010 maturin said: What is the rationale behind helmet cams, anyway? PR? AAR? Seems like a lot of trouble and weight on an already heavy piece of equipment. How do you know how much it weighs? It could be very light and unnoticeable for all we know. It's a very good tool for monitoring, debriefing and accurate recording of what actually went on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archamedes 10 Posted May 2, 2010 I have to admit after watching that clip it really does show how accurate they are in a sense of riding the sholder of the soldier. As i said before no doubt that in a few years boot camps will be filled with projector screens and video demonstrations rather than an officer teaching the theory from a book. However those somalian pirates really are mean little bastards. Its about time they got whats coming to them, a bit like those pirates last year that put a capital S on stupidity by raiding a boat that just happened to be a fully armed navy vessel with over 2000 sailors, marines and badasses that welcomed them on board with a beating and an immediate tour of the brig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnimalMother92 10 Posted May 2, 2010 Cool video, you would think those pirates would learn their lesson :rolleyes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted May 2, 2010 They should have surrendered immediately when the Navy Ship appeared @archamedes, could you give ma a link to those really stupid pirates, must have missed that completely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mrbinkels 10 Posted May 2, 2010 They did a good job. Thanks for the vid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archamedes 10 Posted May 2, 2010 Tonci87 said: They should have surrendered immediately when the Navy Ship appeared@archamedes, could you give ma a link to those really stupid pirates, must have missed that completely dont have a link for it but remember watching it on the news last year, think it was the french or italian navy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted May 2, 2010 maturin said: What is the rationale behind helmet cams, anyway? PR? AAR? Seems like a lot of trouble and weight on an already heavy piece of equipment. After Action Review and training, that this got released for positive PR through the decision of the Navy brass is just a bonus due to equipment that they need to have on them anyway, MARSOF certainly wouldn't consider carrying additional equipment just to inform/impress outsiders. And considering they are used to carrying upwards of 80pds of equipment with them, I doubt a few pounds more or less would matter anyway. They're not carrying that much for this kind of operation. There have been several incidents where pirates have attacked navy vessels, or even tried to board them, increasingly so for the last 6 months. Hr Ms Tromp (a destroyer), which these SF operators were based on also got fired upon when they tried to get the pirates to surrender. This was a mistake, because if they hadn't fired on them, I doubt MARSOF would have been allowed to board the vessel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr burns 133 Posted May 2, 2010 Awesome clip, thx for sharing! Suddenly i would love to have real hearing ai in ArmA! Imagine shouting in your mic and the ai´s getting more & more shaken depending on what you shout, if it understands your language, and how agressive your voice sounds :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipper5 74 Posted May 2, 2010 That's a very impressive clip. Seemed like a textbook operation executed very well. I have a new-found respect for the Dutch Marines. :D Gotta love how the pirates had to act all tough against the poor, unarmed crew of that ship, and did absolutely nothing when they were stormed by someone their own size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 IN 1 0 Posted May 2, 2010 Kind of reminds me of the tanker mission in R6RS, just a lots less shooting and no blood at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted May 2, 2010 This Operation went really good. BTW, what kind of helicopter did they use? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archamedes 10 Posted May 2, 2010 I think that the marines should be posted on random civil ships in high attack areas. I am not sure if they are already doing this and i can appreciate that most are fighting in iraq or afghanistan, however there are a lot of other european countries that are not involved with the middle east that could spare the men. i think it would make all the crew feel a bit safer when travelling out, it would deffinatly make these bastards think twice, especially if they get blown out of the water before they even get to board. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted May 2, 2010 Tonci87 said: BTW, what kind of helicopter did they use? The Super Lynx SH-14D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buzz_Fledderjohn 0 Posted May 2, 2010 I subtitled the video. Enjoy! <object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9jDCG0YwIk&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9jDCG0YwIk&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonci87 163 Posted May 2, 2010 (edited) @ Archamedes, no they don´t do that, don´t ask me why. Maybe they don´t have enough men for that. In Fact they advise the Crews to not fight against the Pirates, so that nobody gets hurt.... EDIT: Thanks for the subtitels^^ Edited May 2, 2010 by Tonci87 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Binkowski 26 Posted May 2, 2010 Zipper5 said: That's a very impressive clip. Seemed like a textbook operation executed very well. I have a new-found respect for the Dutch Marines. :DGotta love how the pirates had to act all tough against the poor, unarmed crew of that ship, and did absolutely nothing when they were stormed by someone their own size. this is how it usually is ;). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakerod 254 Posted May 2, 2010 Archamedes said: I think that the marines should be posted on random civil ships in high attack areas. I am not sure if they are already doing this and i can appreciate that most are fighting in iraq or afghanistan, however there are a lot of other european countries that are not involved with the middle east that could spare the men. i think it would make all the crew feel a bit safer when travelling out, it would deffinatly make these bastards think twice, especially if they get blown out of the water before they even get to board. From my understanding of the situation that is not practical . There are too many ships that travel in that area. It would cost a lot to have to keep flying marines from one ship to the next everytime one got into the area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JdB 151 Posted May 2, 2010 Convoys are the solution, unfortunately in today's world, a delay of a day or two costs too much money, so a lot of captains are forced by the shipping firms to sail outside of convoys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
granQ 293 Posted May 2, 2010 JdB said: Convoys are the solution, unfortunately in today's world, a delay of a day or two costs too much money, so a lot of captains are forced by the shipping firms to sail outside of convoys. logistics is my major and yeah i understand cost a lot.. but its almost bit "funny" how in the modern world we know where the pirates are, we know how to avoid them.. but that 3 week shipping can't take another day longer or it will increase costs too much. Good work on the dutch soldiers.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archamedes 10 Posted May 2, 2010 I can only assume there is a limited amount of pirates (i realise a good thing catches on) so after a while when a lot are either arrested or dead the rest may give up. I am probably completely wrong and ignorant to the fact there could potentially be millions of them but hey i guess its an optomistic thought Share this post Link to post Share on other sites