@All lets stop this public multiplayer mess!

[tom_ 10]

What makes Arma 2 an incredible atmospheric multiplayer game is the interaction with other players in a team. Its such a great expierence when you are in a game and play with total strangers and still everyone communicate and act in a team and play in tactics, this is the strength of the game and makes the game so unique and realistic. I get a taste of this style of game when I played the multiplayer demo of arma2. I used to host a server and edited basic seize the area coop missions with the editor in the demo. I had so many great game nights, we played in team, communicated, made plans, all with total strangers, I can say I had the best multiplayer game expiriences of my life with this demo. So i decided to buy the full game.

I then realised that I can't find any servers in the full game that play this teamplay coop style game, there were no servers with teamplay at all, a total disappointment.

Almost all public servers are playing maps for more than 8 players most of them are for 20-60 players, they have names like domi or evo, the games are a mess, there is no teamplay - no structure, seems like everyone is running arround for his own, shooting and doing whatever he wants.

So I decided to create and host a basic coop mission for 6 players like in the demo. In the demo I waited like 2 minutes and the first players joined my server, 10 minutes later i had a full game with 6 players and it was always like that no matter what time.

In the Full game i waited like 30min and nobody joined my server. After some time I stoped trying.

Then I heard from someone I have to join a clan to play teamplay missions like that, but i didn't want to play at fixed times and my lust to play is always spontaneous, so this was no option for me.

This was some months ago, after some time I was not in the mood to play and actually i prefered playing the demo a few times and had a good time with some good teamplay coop missions till i get bored of the maps.

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IT CAN NOT BE THIS WAY!

This game has so much potential!

Teamplay tactic multiplayer (coop) games should not be a privileg to clan gamers and demo players! lol

I registered here because I think we can change this horrible situation.

WHY IS THE SITUATION LIKE THIS?

The main problem is all servers have a respawn, when you know you will respawn in a second you don't really care if you die so almost everyone play rambo style. no respwan would cause the people to be more careful, they would play total different, when you know you have to wait till everyone is dead when you die, you don't want to die you know you need your team to survive.

Another Problem ist there are too many servers with maps for more than 10 players most are 15-60 most of the players are choosing servers with many people because they think its a better a game when there are many people playing, it can be fun play with many people but the sad thing is no one comes to the idea to play in a team when there are so many playing.

Until Bohemia doesn't delete most of the public servers, the situation will not change.

SO WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING!

IT'S ALL UP TO YOU!

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THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO:

- create your own coop server !

set the max players not too high max 8. When you use the editor, don't set an instant respawn, in the desctiption.ext change the respawn to respawn=5 then you respawn as a bird, when there is no ai left. Set the begining not to close to enemy line, it's better when it's a bit away from enemys, so the squad has to go to enemy lines as a team.

- host campaign in coop mode

one time i got a chance to play campaign in coop mode, it was an incredible experience, but it was also a very rare one, there are not many servers doing this. don't know why...

- join small private coop server :)

When a lot of people would do this, there is a chance that the situation will change, and we will have some servers playing cool coop teamplay games online!

Edited March 5, 2010 by tom_

[Arma-2-Guru 55]

If you want to make a server I will join any time, I love small 6-8 player co-op games where you have to destroy an enemy HQ or something like that. On the Domination games everyone just jumps in planes, flies a bit and then crash into a forest then quit. I am with Romeo 2.5 Clan but still play public matches, if you want to make a habit out of it me and you can create a mini clan dedicated to 6-8 player games, what do you think?

[MancSpartan 10]

Totally agree with this, would be interested in getting this going.

Cheers

Spartan

[terox 316]

There are servers out there that give you that type of gameplay, that do not play Domination, that do not require you to be in their clan.

You just have to spend a little time looking for them.

The following servers have public gaming sessions (AFAIK) and a teamplayer who will follow orders and bother to get on their voice comms server (Teamspeak, Mumble, Ventrilo) would be more than welcome.

• Tactical Gamer
  
• Zeus
  
• CIA
  
• GOL
  
• Kellys heroes
  

to name but a few.

The problem with hosting such a dedicated server is filtering out the type of player with moronic mindsets that can spoil good coop play. This for many gaming communities means locking or passwording their server so that they can indeed enjoy the type of gameplay you are referring too.

I would try some of the servers listed above. Not all servers run the same commercialised mission types

[celery 8]

Even though I'm not prejudiced against any particular game mode, the Warfare/*tion missions are simply clogging up the game browser. Since they're fairly large missions I'd understand if there were a few of them playing and every fan of those missions played on those few servers to have an intense time in the crowd, but the browser is full of 1-3 player games. The "Coop" classification means that your eyes will get crossed while trying to find an actual and these days rare coop game.

[jeza 5416]

I suppose another way of dealing with this is, some units have public op nights be it warfare or a smaller coop mission, i.e units such as VCB and r2.5 and id suggest to someone is looking for a well orderd cohesive fun and structured game to join one of those servers on a public night and their comms. Is just another solution to the problem :) . I do very much like the idea also of a small 6-8player 'public' team as well should end up with a very enjoyable experience.

[jw custom 56]

THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO:

- create your own coop server !

set the max players not too high max 8. When you use the editor, don't set an instant respawn, in the desctiption.ext change the respawn to respawn=5 then you respawn as a bird, when there is no ai left. Set the begining not to close to enemy line, it's better when it's a bit away from enemys, so the squad has to go to enemy lines as a team.

There's people who enjoy playing Domination exactly because they can run their own show. You can't dictate what and how people should play, but you can do something about it... host your own missions just like you prefere them :)

THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO:

- host campaign in coop mode

one time i got a chance to play campaign in coop mode, it was an incredible experience, but it was also a very rare one, there are not many servers doing this. don't know why...

Take a look at all the post about people having issues with the campaign, from bugs to performance. Many people have incredible experiences in user made missions/game types!

But i agree there's too far between experiencing real teamwork on public servers. It's up to the hosts to decide how games are played on their server!

[Beagle 684]

You will usually find 3-4 players to team up with you for specific targets on all big warfare BE servers...you will encounter players that pick you up several times with MV-22 whan you ask for extraction and you will find players driving a repair truck across the whole map under fire to get your AH-1 repaired...

But you wont find this everyday.

there a good games and there a bad games.

[Pulverizer 1]

Such is the gift of Join In Progress. Back in Flashpoint, even the lamest turkey-shooting leetboi co-op missions were better than all the bullshit which reigns today. Even when everyone was going full Rambo, at least you started the mission at the same time at the same place, and generally tackled the objectives as one group. Not scattered all across the map at a dozen different objectives.

Edited March 7, 2010 by Pulverizer

[Zoolander64 0]

Just a thought.... What if we started a new convention to use a certain 2 or 3 letter code in the server name for folks to see? ex: TP, for Teamplay or something like that.

btw: Count me and another in. We would love to play the smaller coop's in a tactical military manner. We try our best to do that at Zoo' World.

[Arma-2-Guru 55]

Alright, from now on I'm going to make a cooperative mission throughout the week and then on Fridays I will host a server for you all to join. I have already started making a mission which requires ACE, ACEX, ACEX_SM, ACEX_PLA and maybe a few others. I don't have the money to host a TeamSpeak server but are you all ok with using the in-game chat system? message me if you want to play this Friday so I can change the player limit accordingly. Also message me your in-game name and your timezone so I can start the game at a convenient time for all of us. I have a 10mbps internet connection and I will be hosting the game (won't be a dedicated server) so you should all be free of lag, peace out.

[almanzo 144]

I'm in!

[jw custom 56]

Maybe Casual ArmA Players group are what some of you guys are looking for:

A group for people who do not want to commit to any Clan / Squad obligations but still don't want to miss out on challenging missions.

We want to enjoy a good game when we feel like it.

We really have some good game with awesome teamwork though lately we suffer lack of players mostly due to people have computer issues but also real life stuff to take care of. So if anybody is interested in joining this group there's more info here:

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=96530

[Hbomber110 0]

Project Reality will weld the community back as One. Correct me if im wrong but they will be the first in the OFP-Arma's history to focus on PvP experiance. This might just be what we are missing

[cri74 10]

Threadstarter - You could allways join a open community like battle.no. The Tv2 servers have the oppertunity for everyone to start their own missions, there are a lot of missions to play.. even the small missions. You dont have to join any clan or squad or anything... everyone are welcome, and you can use the public voice overlay(Teamspeak server) with your friends or the people you find on the server. Best of all, you dont have to pay or sign up for the fun.. just play and have fun when you like :) The servers are sponsored and most of the time supply arma2 gamers with good teamplay and memorable moments. More info in the signature and links in that thread.

Edited March 16, 2010 by cri74

[Slyder73 10]

Project Reality will weld the community back as One. Correct me if im wrong but they will be the first in the OFP-Arma's history to focus on PvP experiance. This might just be what we are missing

This is absolutely what we are missing!!!

Real people against you on the other team real, thinking, unpredictable human beings. Nothing kills this game faster than the almost exclusive deathgrip of the PvAI servers that populate it. If I wanted to waste my time going against a set of algorithms that respond to variables in a predicatble fashion I'd still be playing PacMan. AI is the same thing, writ 25 years later.

This Project Reality, when will it be realeased?

[Pulverizer 1]

Project Reality will weld the community back as One. Correct me if im wrong but they will be the first in the OFP-Arma's history to focus on PvP experiance. This might just be what we are missing

Well, there were PvP mods even for OFP. You might've heard about WarGames League mod, the predecessor to ACE. While not limited to only PvP and a handful of preset missions, it did have PvP variants of vehicles for example.

Maybe PR can make a mission that will get some amount of people playing public PvP, but I doubt it's a jesus mod that can turn everything around 180 degrees and kill all the Evo, Domi and Warfare that now saturate the server browser.

[-)rStrangelove 0]

Alright, from now on I'm going to make a cooperative mission throughout the week and then on Fridays I will host a server for you all to join. I have already started making a mission which requires ACE, ACEX, ACEX_SM, ACEX_PLA and maybe a few others. I don't have the money to host a TeamSpeak server but are you all ok with using the in-game chat system? message me if you want to play this Friday so I can change the player limit accordingly. Also message me your in-game name and your timezone so I can start the game at a convenient time for all of us. I have a 10mbps internet connection and I will be hosting the game (won't be a dedicated server) so you should all be free of lag, peace out.

Sounds great. :)

[call_911 10]

Some of the best coops i hosted an played on my A1 server were the Shark Attack, LSD, etc coops low #'s an lots of baddies which required the team play u suggest it's all about the servers. Had more fun with my 16 man server than when I switched to 64.

[LJF 0]

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?p=1592454

Just thought of that last night, could potentially work in this situation too, or even large public matches. I totally agree with no respawns.

[Flash Thunder 10]

Amen brother I would totally join the game.

Add me on xfire: oblivionman

nickname is -=UGF=-Flash Thunder

funny thing is my clan doesnt even play A2 anymore after its release.

MW2 and EVE are there main focuses. :mad:

---------- Post added at 12:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:57 AM ----------

Alright, from now on I'm going to make a cooperative mission throughout the week and then on Fridays I will host a server for you all to join. I have already started making a mission which requires ACE, ACEX, ACEX_SM, ACEX_PLA and maybe a few others. I don't have the money to host a TeamSpeak server but are you all ok with using the in-game chat system? message me if you want to play this Friday so I can change the player limit accordingly. Also message me your in-game name and your timezone so I can start the game at a convenient time for all of us. I have a 10mbps internet connection and I will be hosting the game (won't be a dedicated server) so you should all be free of lag, peace out.

Sorry for the quick succession posting, I would love to join your next hosting session.

Timezone is Pacific Standard Time

Xfire name is above this post

my ingame name is -=UGF=-Flash Thunder

I have ACE2 but I didnt get the PLA part yet due to the campaign not being released, but I guess ill grab it. :D