ARMA 2 Adult content

[sic-disaster 311]

Wait, Fallout 3 was full of depravity? I thought it was all rather toyish tbh.

Manhunt, there's depravity! :p

[An Fiach 10]

You know exactly what depravity refers to, your intellect gives this away - and you are being argumentative and point scoring for the sake of it, even in the face of rational and calm analysis. You sound exactly like I used to be all the time.

You present attitude is not worth conversing with any longer, I know this from having been the way you are. Live as you wish, accept the consequences of your own actions and choices good and bad and blame no one else for them :)

No, I have no idea what you are referring to. My attitude is inquisitive and also argumentative but you are using an ambiguous term to describe content that you find objectionable while also pouring out this air of moral superiority. You are nothing like me and never have been, and this is obvious to anyone witnessing our exchange. I am asking you to define the terms you are using in a less ambiguous terms. Adult Content can range from voice overs of dirty jokes to full blown bestiality, not all of which is acceptable to everyone that voted yes to the survey.

You speak of depravity in Fallout 3, which I have not played but all I can find about it (google) is nude skin mods, cartoonish gore, and a mod that allows the children in the game to be killed. The nudity and Gore is sophomoric IMO, killing children, well it depends. If an individual just wants to murder children in a video game over and over. I would call that depraved behavior but if it was used for realism's sake to keep others from hiding behind children (even applying some sort of penalty for it), that is very different. For a person to participate in depraved activities, they would already be depraved and so I do not see any consequence in doing so in a video game, it probably keeps them from doing it in public.

Your argument or point seems to simply say we are all going to hell if we like to look at boobs, that is my assumption since you refuse to clarify exactly what in your view is depraved.

[OH-58-FL-Pilot 10]

I Just picked up this "simulation" under the impression that it was the "Ultimate Military Simulation"

And It is quite well put together indeed.

The OP's comments are completely valid and make absolute perfect sense to me.

It is also apparent by the response of some "this stuff does not belong on the battlefield" comments that many here are nothing more then arm chair generals and prudes content with living out a fantasy life of killing but absolute incapable of taking a life. When you provide LD AT/AI Support and watch real people get lit up and i mean body pieces being torn apart, maybe then one can judge what should be seen on the battlefield.

You do not have war especially war as depicted in this title without Rape, Drugs, Murder, Prostitution and slavery.

I think many of the want to be soldiers in this thread would have a hard time coping with just how morally objectionable the battlefield really is and how both sides in every conflict are guilty of some of the most grotesque aspects of warfare that do not even involve combat.

If you want a full on "Military Simulation" then by all means include the sex, drugs, slavery, rape, child murder and immoral acts that all man can partake on.

As in war, there is never an innocent soldier or victim.

All this said, it is a game and I'd not like any of my nieces or nephews playing something with that much content in it, although I could handle it, i do understand how it is not appropriate or everybody's cup of tea.

Edited October 15, 2009 by OH-58-FL-Pilot

[vbs2player 0]

guys just go to the editor russia/womans/women and kill her and then look under her skirt somoen tell me wath that is

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[OH-58-FL-Pilot 10]

guys just go to the editor russia/womans/women and kill her and then look under her skirt somoen tell me wath that is

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An IED weapons cache..

:eek:

[-Snafu- 77]

They have a very good clean feel to me rather than the horrid pursuit of utter revulsion and depraved terror that games like Fallout 3 go after.

I have Fallout 3 for the PS3 and although I haven't played it all the way through I have not encountered what you are describing. Could you explain?

[SnR 1]

guys just go to the editor russia/womans/women and kill her and then look under her skirt somoen tell me wath that is

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Wow Camel smokes

[Sertraline 10]

Based on the poll results it seems there are a lot of frustrated individuals out there. I can only think of two reasons for such cravings: Most of you guys have problems with RL females and/or being brought up in a society that sees sex and nudity as satan's work and strictly forbids you to kiss your girlfriend the first 500 dates or so.

I'm glad I was raised in northern europe, (and the answer is NO, we do not hump anything that moves from the age of 12). We're getting proper education without the inquisitorial nonsense. Some cultures really needs to move on from the middle ages...

Edited October 17, 2009 by Sertraline

[An Fiach 10]

Based on the poll results it seems there are a lot of frustrated individuals out there. I can only think of two reasons for such cravings: Most of you guys have problems with RL females and/or being brought up in a society that sees sex and nudity as satan's work and strictly forbids you to kiss your girlfriend the first 500 dates or so.

I'm glad I was raised in northern europe, (and the answer is NO, we do not hump anything that moves from the age of 12). We're getting proper education without the inquisitorial nonsense. Some cultures really needs to move on from the middle ages...

You don't want the Inquisition yet you come here with a fistful of flames....

[Sertraline 10]

Fair enough. I apologize. That was my cheerful mood. Really need to up the dozes.

Edited October 17, 2009 by Sertraline

[ThaGZAgenius 10]

Lol, Sertraline. If you didnt like that, you really wont like this. Hope you have some medicine. This tread has gotten stale. Let's just for one moment not think of adult content meaning sex. Try thinking outside of your small scale. Let's think of adult content in terms of the battlefield. For example, children in ArmA2. Thats right. I said it...children. A great man brought this up long ago, and I am bringing it back. Let's get them into ArmA2. Populating locations with men, women, and children like in real life. This would add a completly new deminsion to any situation. Tactics would change. Restraint would have to be shown. Responsibility would set in. Imagine the possibilities. Don't make this a moral discussion. Each person has their own. I dont care about anyones morals. I care about realism.

[grub 10]

You wanted realism :D

Got me there...

[RodeoX 10]

I have no real opinion either way, but I do have a question. Isn't war adult content?

I mean why is nudity so bad that only adults should know about it when people burning each other with willy-P is ok?

[reconteam 19]

I leave this forum for a couple of days and look what happens.

I must admit I am slightly intrigued about the idea of strippers in Chernarus life, but lets not go beyond that, right?

[Frobozz 10]

I would actually be all for adult content in wargames. As a long time gamer myself, I grow tired of overly sanitized subject matter.

I'm not looking for pervy mods either like "ohh, make the player model look like a nude pornstar" type garbage. I want the "gritty city" type adult mods. All mods can have two sides, you play the hero destroying these filthy pockets of filth, or you play the villain, hell bent on expanding your empire at any cost.

Either way, is an epic story and worthy of a game. The last thing this world needs is another sanitized, boring, soulless tactical shooter like Call of Duty.

So bring on the adult mods. I want to try my hand at playing the African warlord trafficking human slaves and opium to buy weapons and troop supplies. I want to play the Colombian druglord with his cocaine fields. I (and apparently many, many others) want to play the street warrior/gang member expanding their empire with gambling, drugs, prostitution and violence (Grand theft Auto anyone?).

I'd enjoy playing those roles as much as I'd enjoy playing the elite strikeforce commander who liberates the slavecamps, burns the cocaine fields, and clean's up the street.

I also played Fallout 3 with several adult mods installed so my wasteland had more slavery, cannibalism, prostitution, and violence. In one game I built a criminal empire for myself. In another game, I burned the slaver's city to the ground and loved every minute of it.

Is AMRA 2 the game for mods like this? Perhaps; probably not as gritty and filthy as the post-apocalyptic Fallout 3, but it's certainly a game engine that can do it.

[maverick6 10]

There's already some adult content

> 100kb !!! :eek:

Edited December 21, 2009 by Rellikki
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[johncage 30]

some common adult situations in war should be represented, but tastefully and with proper restraint.

i'm talking about rape and children.

possible compromises:

-children can be present in cutscenes, but not accessible in gameplay.

-rape can be implied, but not shown.(arma 2 has this)

-combination of the above.

I have no real opinion either way, but I do have a question. Isn't war adult content?

I mean why is nudity so bad that only adults should know about it when people burning each other with willy-P is ok?

exactly. sex is a natural act. killing humans is not.

Edited December 21, 2009 by zachanscom

[An Fiach 10]

exactly. sex is a natural act. killing humans is not.

So unnatural that people have been doing it for as long as they've been having sex.

[Aeneas2020 10]

anfiach what an excellent and concise point. death is part of nature, killing is part of nature and whether people want to accept it or not people killing other people is part of nature. Do not think we are so different from other animals or organisms.

[Fudgeblood 10]

exactly. sex is a natural act. killing humans is too.

Fix'd.

Breeding and killing are both in our instincts, we may not like it but they're both a way of life.

[node_runner 0]

This has been an interesting thread to read. A couple of points:

-People should be allowed to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own home provided they aren't violating the rights of anyone else. This includes the depiction of fantasy situations that other people would find immoral. -BUT...

-ArmA2 is the intellectual property of BI. If BI decides that they don't want certain mods or edits to be made to their IP, that is totally within their right and very well should be. That includes anything that is posted or discussed on these forums. These forums are private property, and that has to be respected. Private property rights always trump free speech. If BI doesn't want certain things to be depicted with their game, that is their right, whether or not you agree with their reasoning.

-I don't think this mod would be a good idea from a *technical* standpoint, because the kinds of scenes that you are describing requires a lot of AI in the map, a lot of custom animation work, and a lot of scripting. All of this adds up to terrible performance due to the way the engine works, especially in multiplayer games. I just don't see how it makes sense to use those precious CPU cycles for something like this, instead of using it for better combat with the AI. This type of thing would fit much better with Fallout 3, which I would recommend you use for this type of mod instead of ArmA2. I know that it is just my opinion that it is better to use the resources for other means, but ArmA2 was built to be focused on infantry and combined arms combat, which is why it makes sense to use it as such. I know the BI developers will post that the engine is so powerful and versatile you can use it for anything, but think about it reasonably. Could you create a mod to turn ArmA2 into a turn based strategy game? Probably. Would it makes sense to do that in ArmA2 instead of Civ4? Absolutely not. Can you pound nails into wood with a screwdriver handle? Sure you can. Does it make sense to do it with a screwdriver instead of a hammer, given the choice? Absolutely not. Separate from what your moral opinions are, I just don't see how ArmA2 is the best tool to use for something like this, rather than other games which seem much better suited (such as Fallout 3).

[mr burns 131]

[NoRailgunner 0]

Lol Burns this is your old wip pic - where are the fully naked ones? Still testing? :D

Edited December 21, 2009 by NoRailgunner
typo

[mr burns 131]

Lol Burns this is your old wip pic - where are the fully naked ones? Still testing? :D

I posted this in WIP? lmao

Yes it´s still going through inhouse testing, adjusting penetration values and such..

[NoRailgunner 0]

Guess thats why there is no ETA for final release? :xmas_o: